Where does Aspinall Rank amongst the PRIDE HW?

[MrCoffee]

Aspinall is the water boy and fetches a fresh sock in PRIDE.

 

[Hdfi]

Aspinall looks great but he's really unproven still. He has no marquee names on his resume.

Blaydes has more top ten wins than Crocop.

 

[DayV]

Blaydes has more top ten wins than Crocop.

No he does not. You have to find and use authentic media rankings from 2000s and Pride era, not FightMatrix generated by computer years later that did not exist at that time.

Cro Cop's Top 10 wins:
Fujita, Barnett, Barnett 2, Barnett 3, Fujita 2, Herring, Vovchanchyn, Wanderlei, Randleman.

Cro Cop also has a lot more other notable wins:
Coleman, Alex Emelianenko, Yoshida, Gonzaga, Waterman, Sakuraba, King Mo, Nelson...

Cro Cop has like twice as many good mma wins as Blaydes.

 

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gane was always the better striker
hes a world muay thai champion
he also outstriked nganou

i dont know why people though tom was better standing up just because hes like carwin who ko's anyone in rd1

lmao

why cant people figure this out a long time ago
they thought aspinal is some world champion in striking
they also thought he would ko pereira aswell
because of his stand up skills

crazy

Because Gane sucked last fight and the fight before that

 

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hes a world muay thai champion

FRENCH champion.

 

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Cro Cop also has a lot more other notable wins:
Coleman,

Coleman was washed up, no?

 

[cburm]

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I just can't stop wondering how many of the above would quit a fight, let alone for a strap, let alone with millions watching around the world...

from an eye-poke.

Buddy forget pride what about jds cain carwin mir stipe roy nelson.. hunt.

Tom is in the same boat as every other hw in the UFC hw division with his 4 or 5 fights...

He needs to break apart right now I'n the easiest and weakest division in all of MMA probably.. his only caliber fighter is cyril Gane who lost badly to John and francis and looked like he was leagues behind.

Tom needs to separate himself by being active and winning.. and he doesn't rank up with any of them.. francis would have kod him dead.

He was all hype and got derailed quick.. sat out 2 years to quit a fight he found out he was gonna lose. And took an out probably hoping for a DQ win

 

[cburm]

And The fact that Tom has been silent still and giving 0 updates just shows what kind of person he is.

He's gonna stall until he can train and and get his confidence with a real game plan to beat cyril.. or he's gonna duck him.

 

[volcom5]

He doesn’t,

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Does he get to go on the pride supplements too? Because if so… probably 2-3

 

[ThaiSexPills]

And The fact that Tom has been silent still and giving 0 updates just shows what kind of person he is.

He's gonna stall until he can train and and get his confidence with a real game plan to beat cyril.. or he's gonna duck him.

Good point. He should update the world every minute of every day to prove he’s not scared to fight Gane. Half a round of a close fight broke him. He’s never fighting again, he will call out Stipe and retire if forced to defend.

 

[Ladder Master]

He could fetch Gatorade or something.

 

[CombatSports55]

He'd beat all the Pride HWs.
Would lose to prime Francis and could lose to prime Cain imo.
I really don't think Aspinall's wrestling is that great.

 

[CombatSports55]

yes lets throw the now extremely divisive Tom Aspinall into the crocodile pit aka Sherdog Millenials who refuse to let go of their past and see how that turns out.

Skill 4 Skill Fedor is better then Tom at almost everything.
I still think Aspinall beats Fedor with speed and size but if we're strictly talking about technique, he's decent to good at a lot of things but not great at anything. Mostly a DNA merchant.

 

[BowserJr]

Fedor
Nog
CC
Barnett
Tom

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Aspinall is a non-athletic version of James Thompson.

 

[xentreos]

Not so good. An Aspinall with the training methods of 2000s, not top 10

People just dont know how to properly rank old school fighters.

A modernly trained Big Nog would be an absolute fuckin destroyer in 2025. Give me young minatauro over derrick Lewis any day he'd box the fuxk out of him.

 

[Doughie99]

Everyone knows pride fc HW was the gold standard of heavyweight. UFC has never been able to capture the glory that happened there.

Roided up fighters, giving it 100% of the time, for one tenth the money, and fighting 3-6 times a fucking year.

Anwyas below is a list compiled by chat gpt of the top 30 hw in pride.

Looking through that list I was surprised to see I would have tom aspinall at 18 or 17 on that list. I thikn arona should be below werdumpersonally.

Tom has accomplished and has no legacy compared to the the guys I have above him. I am also judging by potential and I am confident all the guys from 13 onward beat him easily.

I am kind of shocked as the brit fans said he was a new HW, the best we will ever see in our liftimes, and he can't stack up against Pride legends at all.

Legends and Champions​

1. Fedor Emelianenko – Undefeated in PRIDE, PRIDE Heavyweight Champion
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ("Minotauro") – Interim PRIDE Heavyweight Champion
3. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović – 2006 Open-Weight Grand Prix Champion
4. Mark Coleman – 2000 Open-Weight Grand Prix Champion
5. Antonio Silva – Early heavyweight, though best known post-PRIDE
6. Josh Barnett – Top contender, fought for the title several times
7. Heath Herring – Title contender and PRIDE staple
8. Kevin Randleman – Former UFC champion, PRIDE GP competitor
9. Wanderlei Silva – Primarily middleweight, fought heavyweights in open-weight bouts
10. Kazuyuki Fujita – Japanese powerhouse, fought Fedor and Coleman

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Fan Favorites and Key Contenders​

1. Sergei Kharitonov – Elite striker, strong run in PRIDE HW division
2. Igor Vovchanchyn – Knockout machine from the early PRIDE era
3. Gary Goodridge – Veteran striker, fought most legends of the era
4. Mark Kerr – Early PRIDE tournament star and elite wrestler
5. Dan Henderson – Fought up in weight, beat heavyweights despite being smaller
6. Ricardo Arona – LHW primarily, but notable open-weight fighter
7. Fabricio Werdum – Grappling ace, late-era PRIDE competitor
8. Alexander Emelianenko – Younger brother of Fedor, strong heavyweight run
9. Bob Sapp – Huge draw in Japan, fought several legends
10. Hidehiko Yoshida – Olympic judo gold medalist, notable open-weight bouts

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Additional Notables​

1. Tom Erikson – Wrestler and early PRIDE contender
2. Don Frye – Fought early in PRIDE’s history, fan favorite
3. Ken Shamrock – Early MMA pioneer, fought briefly in PRIDE
4. Bas Rutten – Retired before PRIDE’s heyday but early connections to the scene
5. Giant Silva – Spectacle fighter, part of PRIDE’s showmanship era
6. Butterbean (Eric Esch) – Box office draw, fought in PRIDE late
7. Yoshihiro Takayama – Infamous brawler, known for the Frye fight
8. Naoya Ogawa – Judo star turned MMA fighter
9. Tadao Yasuda – Sumo champion turned PRIDE heavyweight
10. Gilbert Yvel – Dutch striker, dangerous and controversial

Factor many Aspinall threads lately.

It's still FAR too early to pass and type of judgment on him. Give it 2 or 3 or 4 yrs more.

 

[snugglecakes]

i don't see tom having too many issues with the overrated AF pride HW division containing threats such as...

- 70 inch reach sub 6 foot middleweight randleman in a welterweight frame that bloated up to a fake heavyweight. Tom wins by whatsoever he wants, just like glass jawed Roger Gracie.

-Cro cop was still in his prime on paper & fedor's alleged toughest fight up till then when he came to the UFC and immediately flunked out n over to dream. He was also another crusierweight is loserweight 220 pounder. Tom weight bullies the shit out of him.

-Not so big nog is also another 220 lbs manlet Crusierweight is loser weight. Big tom weight bullies his way to an easy destruction. Wouldn't be surprised if tom subbed nog just like werdum and mir did, considering how overrated Nog's Juijitsu is.

-Barnett deflated to as low as the cruiserweight is loserweight dreaded 230s lbs post USADA. We can assume a theoretical Josh vs Tom fight is under strict drug testing thus he wouldn't be the big man he's remembered as being. Josh would come in borderlining a pre weight cut Light heavyweight n get rag doll weight bullied.

-Fedor was only 30 when he started losing left n right. That's the age a HW should be in their prime so there is no excuse. Fedor tried to take on legit zuffa competition and got exposed the fuck out of. He's also yet another cruiserweight is loser weight, coming in around the 230 mark. Roid foot silva exposed fedor by beating him using absolutely nothing but his larger size and no skill. It was a textbook weight bully job. Fedor being the david that slayed goliath is a myth considering the only big men he beat are techno giant Zulu cans and slow motion timmah types. Goliath musta been a total can.

-Mark Coleman is yet another fake heavyweight. He juiced up to heavyweight and instantly deflated back down to his true light heavyweight beta boy self.

That's basically the meaningful who's who of the so called goated pride HW division.. a buncha sub 235 pound beta boy crusierweights. You know you have a phony ass heavyweight division when the top ranked spots are taken up by people that fought as low as middleweight. Size matters. Silva destroying fedor using just nothing but all size n no skill is 1 of many proof examples of that.

 

[Mammothman]

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