International When Grifters Wilfully Misunderstand Basic Censorship: Musk Edition

chardog said:
lets just say that whatever that is allowable on the hub should be allowable by grok....... having a default inclination to ban/censor is a bad idea for a country that already imprisons folks over social media posts, how about NOT giving that government the benefit of the doubt, which is what is going on here.
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Making child porn and ai porn of real people isn't allowed on the hub as far as I know though.
 
This isn't a Grok problem, it's an AI problem generally. The ability to generate these kinds of images is new and the way AIs block it is just to disable certain keywords, but the perverts are always looking for work-arounds. I guarantee you if you tell grok to make pdf stuff it will refuse and those complaining have gone out of their way to make it generate something borderline so they can smear Musk.
 
I mean Grok seems pretty censored to me.

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People really need to be made to understand that AI accelerationists are literally the common enemy of all of mankind. I don't care about your race, class, sex, nationality, or anything else. We're dealing with people who are fundamentally anti-human. We all need to come together, tear these people from their places of power, and salt the fields. If we don't ensure these people fail, we all lose.
 
Elon: "You can't do that! Unless you pay."

Seano said:
Lol at the left talking about anyone deliberately misunderstanding anything. Its been your entire gameplan for the past 15 years.
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Good job not addressing the subject.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Stupid argument. The issue with any app where you can contact people is that you can contact them. More kids use Snapchat than any other app so more offences are likely to take place through there. That doesn't mean the arguments about Twitter hold any weight.
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No, it does. The fact that more kids use Snapchat and more abuses take place there, how is not relevant that they don't go after them with the same fervor? By you own words, it's even worse.
 
HereticBD said:
No, it does. The fact that more kids use Snapchat and more abuses take place there, how is not relevant that they don't go after them with the same fervor? By you own words, it's even worse.
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It's a completely different thing. The majority of kids use Snapchat above other messaging apps. Therefore kids are more likely to be preyed upon on there than any other app. If more kids used Whatsapp then it would be Whatsapp that had the problem. The issue there is teaching kids online safety.

Adults using AI to make pornographic images is completely different.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
It's a completely different thing. The majority of kids use Snapchat above other messaging apps. Therefore kids are more likely to be preyed upon on there than any other app. If more kids used Whatsapp then it would be Whatsapp that had the problem. The issue there is teaching kids online safety.

Adults using AI to make pornographic images is completely different.
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No, it's in the same ballpark, since it's all about adults preying on kids. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

If adults making AI pornographic material of children is worthy of shutting down an entire app, then certainly adults preying on kids on Snapchat is also worthy.
 
HereticBD said:
No, it's in the same ballpark, since it's all about adults preying on kids. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

If adults making AI pornographic material of children is worthy of shutting down an entire app, then certainly adults preying on kids on Snapchat is also worthy.
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It's not in the same ballpark. One is something which is impossible to avoid and comes down to parents teaching their children online safety. One is an easy fix by programming grok so it doesn't make pornographic images for people and then nothing has to be blocked or shut down and everyone can move on with their lives.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
It's not in the same ballpark. One is something which is impossible to avoid and comes down to parents teaching their children online safety.
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It's not impossible to avoid on that particular platform, if you ban the app.
Hellowhosthat said:
One is an easy fix by programming grok so it doesn't make pornographic images for people and then nothing has to be blocked or shut down and everyone can move on with their lives.
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Right, because Grok is the only AI out there with that capability? Once it's shut down, this problem will cease to exist...
 
HereticBD said:
It's not impossible to avoid on that particular platform, if you ban the app.

Right, because Grok is the only AI out there with that capability? Once it's shut down, this problem will cease to exist...
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I feel like you're trolling at this point dude. You're not this stupid
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Stupid argument. The issue with any app where you can contact people is that you can contact them. More kids use Snapchat than any other app so more offences are likely to take place through there. That doesn't mean the arguments about Twitter hold any weight.
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They hold significantly less weight.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
If I've lost an argument when I'm arguing against people being able to make child porn then that's a loss I'll take.
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That wasn't the argument. The argument is about punishing apps that allow child abuse. You apparently want to pick and choose when and when it's not okay, based on who owns what platform.
 
HereticBD said:
That wasn't the argument. The argument is about punishing apps that allow child abuse. You apparently want to pick and choose when and when it's not okay, based on who owns what platform.
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Just to make it simple. To ban apps that allow child abuse in terms of people contacting children you would have to ban all messaging apps or ban children from using messaging apps altogether.

Nobody is asking Twitter to make any wholesale changes.
 
jimjamjammer said:
They hold significantly less weight.
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Why isn't Elon's line on this just "child porn or making fake ai porn of real people is disgusting and we will do everything we can to avoid it happening on our platform" rather than just blabbering about censorship?
 
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