When do you think Anderson Silva should've retired?

[World eater]

Never.

 

[HHJ]

Massive fan of the spider, even though he went on a losing run there was always some kind of hope and i think he retired when it was gone.

- Lost to Chris, was taunting,
- Lost again again and snapped his leg
- Got a W vs Diaz but was a NC
- Lost a close one to Bisping in which he landed one of the nicest knockout blows and rocked him from an upkick
- Lost to DC in which he hurt him and pretty much got layed on most of that fight
- Beat Bruson, granted it was close
- Lost to Izzy in good showing on his part considering his age
- Hurt his leg Vs Jared Cannonier
- Got knocked out by Hall and retired

I know it looks bad on paper but it's not as bad as it looks once you break it down.

Some of those things dont rate with me.

He was horrible to watch after the Bisping fight.

 

[doggo]

After beating Stephen Bonnar, 17 fight win streak.

Just curious why many are selecting after the 2nd Weidman fight? What does Silva gain from losing twice to Weidman breaking his leg? Why not retire as a champion and still on top?

It is unrealistic in 99% of cases so people avoid it.

He also had an easy defense inline with Weidman, it was so easy it became a meme that people mispelled his name wrong for years (until it just became my boy, thanks dad)

Then the second fight was also necessary because the firt fight was a "fluke". After that he shoudl have stopped.

 

[Nobru]

Anderson is a fighter. He gave all he had out there until there was nothing left

Thats how a GOAT contender should go. Thats the fighting spirit.

Retiring when you are still good to go is a pussy move. Thats why guys like GSP or Khabib wont be in my GOAT lists, despite being skilled as hell

Guys like anderson, fedor, aldo, look at their careers. Anderson fought DC for Christ sake. He could have sat on AS for whatever minutes and he still went out there

 

[Streeter]

After Nick Diaz............ as he had to come back to show he could after Weidman. After Nick he goes out on besting a good fighter. His fights since have been sad to watch

 

[Gilday]

It's not on the list but UFC 200. Short notice infront of a red hot crowd who loved him

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I know we got the magic of hindsight to guide us.

But I'd say after the second fight with Weidman, where he broke his leg. I think he should have retired after that.

Reason I say that, is because he was going to get an immediate rematch title shot after losing the Weidman the first time.

So it's reasonable to go for that rematch. But after that devastating loss with his leg break, he should have ended it there. He was never the same after.

I believe he was 37 years old if he retired right after the second fight with Weidman. His record would've been 33-6.

According to Sherdog never. You need to "gO OuT oN yOuR sHiELd" otherwise you are a coward and ducking someone and scared, potentially even shook.

Only after say, 5 KO losses in a row will the Karens start a "UFC is shameless for allowing washed XYZ to fight at this point". Only then is it EVER acceptable to leave the sport.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Anderson is a fighter. He gave all he had out there until there was nothing left

Thats how a GOAT contender should go. Thats the fighting spirit.

Retiring when you are still good to go is a pussy move. Thats why guys like GSP or Khabib wont be in my GOAT lists, despite being skilled as hell

Guys like anderson, fedor, aldo, look at their careers. Anderson fought DC for Christ sake. He could have sat on AS for whatever minutes and he still went out there

Whilst I have no problem with fighters looking out for their health long term yeah I do kind of think that a real GOAT keeps trying to win big fights as long as he can rather than retiring early to preserve his rep.

The latter kind of fighter strikes me as more like a poster on Sherdog.

 

[Dave Poodle]

Anderson didn't even want to retire when UFC pretty much made the decision for him, he still wanted to compete. Plus he signed a lucrative 12 fight deal towards the end of his champ run so he was getting paid big by UFC standards right to the end.

 

[Simple Southerner]

Right after the Diaz fight

 

[HHJ]

Anderson didn't even want to retire when UFC pretty much made the decision for him, he still wanted to compete. Plus he signed a lucrative 12 fight deal towards the end of his champ run so he was getting paid big by UFC standards right to the end.

He stopped having good fights a long time ago there.

 

[ChickenBrother]

After beating Stephen Bonnar, 17 fight win streak.

Just curious why many are selecting after the 2nd Weidman fight? What does Silva gain from losing twice to Weidman breaking his leg? Why not retire as a champion and still on top?

This.

As a fan and nuthugger, seeing him lose twice like that to Weidman was painful. Especially because he could and should have won the first fight. He just didn't want it anymore and should have retired.

I always thought the way he answers the last question at 4:59 in this UFC 162 pre-fight interview was him speaking from the heart. Dude was just tired of this shit and it showed in the fight.

marked:

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Its crazy to think he was already 37 at the time of the Chael rematch. I dont think it would have been looked upon strangely at all if he had retired at that point tbh.

 

[VinceArch]

Never was much of an Anderson fan but honestly, after the 2nd Chael fight for his fans. Would've missed losing to Weidman twice, popping for steroids, losing to Bisping, DC, Izzy and Cannonier as well.

 

[Nabs]

After beating Stephen Bonnar, 17 fight win streak.

Just curious why many are selecting after the 2nd Weidman fight? What does Silva gain from losing twice to Weidman breaking his leg? Why not retire as a champion and still on top?

Because he was still a wizard at the time and showed no sign of slowing down.

I still believe that he would've beat Teh Chris the 1st time if he hadn't been so overly careless. He was never gonna win the 2nd time though. He was mentally broken already while Chris' belief and confidence got stronger. He still needed to fight him a 2nd time though to close out that chapter. That loss would've been the best time to hang em up. They can't all go out on top.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Weidman 2.

Personally, I wish he would have retired after Sonnen 2.

 

[GoshiShun17]

I know we got the magic of hindsight to guide us.

But I'd say after the second fight with Weidman, where he broke his leg. I think he should have retired after that.

Reason I say that, is because he was going to get an immediate rematch title shot after losing the Weidman the first time.

So it's reasonable to go for that rematch. But after that devastating loss with his leg break, he should have ended it there. He was never the same after.

I believe he was 37 years old if he retired right after the second fight with Weidman. His record would've been 33-6.

I know we got the magic of hindsight to guide us.

But I'd say after the second fight with Weidman, where he broke his leg. I think he should have retired after that.

Reason I say that, is because he was going to get an immediate rematch title shot after losing the Weidman the first time.

So it's reasonable to go for that rematch. But after that devastating loss with his leg break, he should have ended it there. He was never the same after.

I believe he was 37 years old if he retired right after the second fight with Weidman. His record would've been 33-6.

Most definitely after Sonnen 2. Most people are saying the Bonnar fight but that was conpletely unplanned.

Chael was his biggest rival and that win was Anderson's peak as a star.

People forget that Weidman was a fairly new MMA fighter at the time with only 9 matches on his record.

Obviously he was considered to be like a prodigy but he was still unproven and didn't have a fraction of the nane recognition that Anderson had.

He also didn't have a personality to "sell" tge fight. Obviously there were people who believed he had just the right skills.

But had Anderson beat Weidman the first time, it would not have ranked as highly on his record as other wins.

People would have said Chris was green. He was coming off surgery. Many people wouldn't have even known much about or known him at all.

Lose lose situation for Anderson. That's why he called out Bisping.

 

[DarthChen731]

Probably after Adesanya, it was a perfect pass the torch moment. He had racked up a few losses by then, obviously was never the same after the leg break. Just really didn't need the Cannonier and Hall losses.

 

[goOb]

After beating Stephen Bonnar, 17 fight win streak.

Just curious why many are selecting after the 2nd Weidman fight? What does Silva gain from losing twice to Weidman breaking his leg? Why not retire as a champion and still on top?

I feel the right time was after the second Weidman fight because; the first fight with Weidman, when he initially lost the belt, he was playing around and got caught. Now I can only speak for myself but it felt like a flukey win for Weidman. I thought Silva could likely win the belt back if they had a rematch. Then the leg snapped and at his age a comeback from an injury like that was very slim in my opinion. So after that second loss, I knew it was over for Silva. He hadn't been Submitted or KO'd but rather a horrible injury was the culprit this time. If he left then, he could have chalked the 2nd loss up to an injury and hung his gloves up and a lot of people really wouldn't have had any qualms with it.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

I know we got the magic of hindsight to guide us.

But I'd say after the second fight with Weidman, where he broke his leg. I think he should have retired after that.

Reason I say that, is because he was going to get an immediate rematch title shot after losing the Weidman the first time.

So it's reasonable to go for that rematch. But after that devastating loss with his leg break, he should have ended it there. He was never the same after.

I believe he was 37 years old if he retired right after the second fight with Weidman. His record would've been 33-6.

After the 2nd Chael fight would have been a movie quality send off.
If not then, after the Bonnar fight would have been a great runner up and would have spared him the horrific leg break.