When America Was Great...

Yes it was. America was respected, feared and had one of the strongest economies in the world.

Today we are ridiculed, spit on and much of our productive industry is gone.

But at least 2 dudes can get married now.
you get spit on? who i spitting on you?
 
What about how minorities and women were treated?
I think you're deliberately clouding the idea that America was once great based on the working of society of the day. Most people consider the era(s) great because of our productivity, our military, our standing in the world scene overall. Civil rights aren't the entire story. No era is perfect.

The US is sort of a joke today worldwide.
 
Yeah we're such losers

That's why people risk everything trying to get here
Other places being worse doesn't mean the US is at its peak right now. It just means other places are worse. People risk everything to get here, is that your criteria? Well look at Mexico for fucks sake. How low are we setting the bar?
 
Are you asking Seano to think beyond the perimeter of his (very short) arms reach??

Seriously?
I'm 6'1" and lanky. My arms are pretty long.

I'm actually pretty open minded. I'm not sure why you're making statements like this about me. What thread that I commented in are you butthurt about.?Let me guess, it had something to do with religion?
 
I think you're deliberately clouding the idea that America was once great based on the working of society of the day. Most people consider the era(s) great because of our productivity, our military, our standing in the world scene overall. Civil rights aren't the entire story. No era is perfect.

The US is sort of a joke today worldwide.
How is the us a joke now? Is productivity the only factor? Are civil rights not valued?
 
Obviously I was speaking figuratively.
if anything our merica, gun nut, religious right, has always been the butt of jokes. it still is.
I think you're deliberately clouding the idea that America was once great based on the working of society of the day. Most people consider the era(s) great because of our productivity, our military, our standing in the world scene overall. Civil rights aren't the entire story. No era is perfect.

The US is sort of a joke today worldwide.
we are worked to death. literally. most of the 1st world doesnt work as much as we do. they certainly take more vacations than we do.
 
How is the us a joke now? Is productivity the only factor? Are civil rights not valued?
Does the rest of the world give a shit about gay rights in the US? Lets not pretend anyone does just to keep the argument rolling.
 
if anything our merica, gun nut, religious right, has always been the butt of jokes. it still is.
we are worked to death. literally. most of the 1st world doesnt work as much as we do. they certainly take more vacations than we do.
Bullshit. Worked to death....lol
 
Does the rest of the world give a shit about gay rights in the US? Lets not pretend anyone does just to keep the argument rolling.
Why do you care about what the world thinks? If you do what will they think if Trump gets in office?
 
Bullshit. Worked to death....lol
My adopted grandmother used to tell me about how her mother worked herself to death back in the day after her father was killed by a drunk driver.
 
If there was time machine so we could go back to the 40s or even earlier and give up on our advances from entertainment, home appliances, technology, medicine, social restrictions, etc etc etc. 99% of you would not go near that thing. You would run like hell.
 
Why do you care about what the world thinks? If you do what will they think if Trump gets in office?
What makes us great then? Our opinion? Please. If the rest of the world doesn't respect you the way it did in the past, then you're not as great as you once were. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Improvements in gay rights or women's lib is just a small part of the story. A few improvements don't erase decades of mistakes.
 
My adopted grandmother used to tell me about how her mother worked herself to death back in the day after her father was killed by a drunk driver.
And are you in danger of dying from being over worked?
 
diet, lack of sleep, fast paced lifestyle
the stress of working in america is very real and a legit health concern. overwork without much rest is a very real health concern.
 
Why do you care about what the world thinks? If you do what will they think if Trump gets in office?
I personally don't. But the worlds view of us matters in the discussion of greatness.
 
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