Whats the biggest "robbery" of 2020 in your opinion?

Still undecided between the CARES act and the Fed making it rain to the tune of $2T. In the UFC, it was definitely Herman vs Rodriguez.
 
HatKick said:
Ige vs Barboza was the most blatant one. There's just no way Ige won that fight.

Reyes vs Jones is debatable imo (though I had it 3-2 Reyes but some of the early rounds were close)

Max vs Volk wasn't a robbery but it showed the scoring system doesn't tell the whole story
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The only round that was very close in the Jones/Reyes fight was the 3rd round
 
sampuncher said:
It wasnt a robbery but I thought JJ beat Zhang personally.

We've been pretty fortunate, not that many standout robberies last year, questionable scorecards definitely but usually they went in favour as a split with the right call still.
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That fight was a back and forth WAR so i think it is hard for the Judges to know who won that fight so they gave the win to the Champ Weili
 
ali ali said:
That fight was a back and forth WAR so i think it is hard for the Judges to know who won that fight so they gave the win to the Champ Weili
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The way you've just summarised it sounds like it should have been a draw then.

If it's hard for judges to know how to score a fight then I dunno what to say.
 
Holloway vs Volk 2, 1 was close, the rematch was a robbery.
 
I’ve been watching MMA for 30 years. I can’t think of many (any?) “robberies”. I mean, there have been a ton of close fights that could’ve went either way. But clear wins where there’s no argument for the other guy winning?
 
Starman said:
Gropin’ Joe Biden stealing the presidency from Donald Trump.
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Nah, too many 10-8 rounds for Joe in the eyes of most of judges.

Look, I get it. I really wanted Diaz over Conor again, because of how much of a piece of shit Conor was. So i was making a bunch of qualifactions/justifications during the fight like, "that was more of a slip than a knockdown," or "that endung barrage from Nate was more significant than Conor's past 3 minutes," but when it comes down to how fights are scored, it was done correctly. And its a damn shame that Diaz will harp on about the first win as if that mattered more than the rematch, and he'll bitch about every loss he's ever had, because none of them were "real" losses. But his whining and my feelings don't change the truth. He lost
 
JayPettryMMA said:
You should check out the Sherdog.com piece about the 2020 Robbery of the Year. It was a good one, in that it was crystal clear and that there wasn't much wiggle room to argue otherwise. At least to me, and many from the SD staff as well.

https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Sherdogs-2020-Robbery-of-the-Year-176999
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Awful.
But seems to me a referee's mistake. Reminded me of Spider-Bisping.
Reyes clearly defeated Jones, and still Jones was gifted with a shitty win.
 
A lot of people seem to be considering Reyes vs Jones as the biggest robbery of 2020.

I had never seen that fight, so I gave it a look. And I don't see how this can be so widely considered to be a "robbery".

Round 1 has to go to Reyes for putting more pressure, briefly dropping Jones (with a punch to the chest, so that clearly wasn't a knockdown) and landing the cleaner shots, although Jones was picking up the pace during the last minute of the round, and was the one moving forward. Pretty clear that the first round goes to Reyes, although it's still a close one. 10-9 Reyes,

Round 2, Reyes put some good pressure on Jones for the first minute and a half, but 2 minutes into the round, Jones is the one moving forward pressuring Reyes, successfully attacking Reyes' lead leg, dodging Reyes' counters, which is getting Reyes tired, and winning the round, although Reyes lands one clean punch and a big leg kick in the last 30 secs. Jones' round IMO. 10-9 Jones.

Round 3 starts off with back and forth pressure from both men respectively, with nothing significant or noteworthy landing from either guy. But midway through, Reyes looks faded and Jones is the one moving forward, still chewing up Reyes' leg, but eating a few good counters, which don't have all that much snap. Reyes lands a few good body shots, while Jones appears unaffected and ends the round as he is pressuring a tired Reyes. Tough one to score, but I'm tempted to say it belongs to Jones, based mostly on pressure, and effective leg attacks. Reyes landed the cleaner punches, but not a significant volume of them enough to outweigh Jones' constant pressure for most of the round, the good leg attacks and being so obviously the fresher, more dynamic fighter. 10-9 Jones.

Round 4 easily goes to Jones. Besides a few good moments early in the round, Reyes is on his back foot the whole time, Jones gets the better of the grappling exchanges and gets some fine clinch work, lands more leg kicks and ends the round walking down Reyes and landing some clean punches. 10-9 Jones.

Round 5. Reyes is gassed. Jones lands a takedown, Reyes immediately gets back up, but Jones still took him down. Jones constantly pressures Reyes for the whole round and puts on a kicking clinic on him, battering both his body and his legs. Easy one to score in favour of Jones. 10-9 Jones,

So that's 49-46 in favour of Jones, with round 3 being somewhat debatable, but even with that swing, Jones still wins.

I don't think this was a "robbery" at all. It's just a typical fight where neither guy actually looked to be in much trouble at any point, but again that's how most Jones fights unfold nowadays anyway.

I do have to say that, based on this fight and other recent performances, Jones is absolutely fucked at heavyweight. Seems like he can't hurt guys like he used to, whether it be with his punches or his kicks. I can't see him hurt guys like Stipe, Ngannou, Gane, Rozenstruik, Blaydes, etc. at this point. Maybe he can win decisions against them by out-running them and out-slicking them, but I can't see much offense from him being a turning point in any of these fights and him not relying on a point fighting strategy in order to be successful against such larger and stronger opponents.
 
Straatblaffer said:
I absolutely do not understand why people call the Holloway fight a robbery. I keep on saying UFC fights are scored per round, not as a fight as a whole. Max won 1 and 2, but none of the other rounds is a clear Max round. I know Max is a great guy and commentary was super biased, but this was not a robbery.
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I feel the same about the Jones Reyes fight. Only round Reyes clearly won was the first.
 
I would say Max v Volk 2 was close but Max is really popular on here and I’m Australian so I may just be biased :p​
 
Pilo said:
I feel the same about the Jones Reyes fight. Only round Reyes clearly won was the first.
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I can see that. For me, Reyes v Jones was no robbery, but I did think Reyes won. It was a very hard fight to judge, so I can not be upset about it.
 
Rorschachxx said:
Robbery is obv. a term thrown around loosely in the MMA-sphere. Still I'm curious to see what in your opinion was a bullshit decision. Seemed like we had a real string of controversial decisions this year (at least going by fans). Volk/Holloway, Jones/Reyes, Adesanya/Romero, etc.

When originally watching Jones/Reyes and Volk/Holloway, I personally thought both contenders won the fight, after rewatching I figured Round 2 and Round 3 respecively, are pretty debatable. Only fight I rewatched where I didn't change my opinion is Adesanya/Romero. Izzy won imo. There are obv. a few other examples, those are just 3 that come to mind immediately. Weili/Joanna for example.

And yes, losing Khabib/Ferg for a fifth time was a damn robbery too.
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Reyes/ Jones.

Every round in that fight was incredibly easy to score.
 
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