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Whats old man Stipe Miocic's current shape??

I don't know? I can say atleast the shape of a fireman. They're both my favorite UFC fighters ever. I first saw Jones watching UFC 100, and Stipe fighting on the Facebook prelims (remember those days?) . I was drawn to Jones via talent, and Stipe because I grew up in Independence,OH so he was the hometown boy. I expect Jones should win, but Stipe has defeated Cormier and Ngannou...while never being a full-time athlete. There might be one bit of magic left in him.
 
He has staph on his knee and chest, hope he isn’t too affected in the fight.
 
If I am 42 and basically already retired, I would rather take the cheque and go back to my family safe instead of risking it all to win.
Against normal fighters sure but Jones? Not worth it if you value your knees or eyes.
 
Hes in shape for sure.

The big question is if the 4 years off were a good thing or not IMO.

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Mike Tyson looked even way better at 60 and look how he badly he fought. People dont get that you can look good and in shape in later ages, but the mobility, coordination, etc are all basically gone. Specially after getting KO'd multiple times brutally like Stipe.
 
Jones and Stipe are almost the same age bud.
They are not. 37 and 43 is a huuuge difference. Its not like 25 and 31. At this stage it makes an enormous difference. Jones is still ok till 38-40. At 43 you're an old man and you decline so much fast after 40 that you cant compare it and say 6 yrs is not alot at that stage in life. You can still look in shape like Mike (even tho he took peds), but movement, cardio, speed, resistance, strenght are all like 10% of what you had at 37.
 
Without seeing actual live grappling against hw bjj/wrestlers , its tough to tell
 
They are not. 37 and 43 is a huuuge difference. Its not like 25 and 31. At this stage it makes an enormous difference. Jones is still ok till 38-40. At 43 you're an old man and you decline so much fast after 40 that you cant compare it and say 6 yrs is not alot at that stage in life. You can still look in shape like Mike (even tho he took peds), but movement, cardio, speed, resistance, strenght are all like 10% of what you had at 37.

lol bullshit. Stipe looks remarkably better at 42 than Jones does at 37. He also looks remarkably better than his own 37 year old version of himself. Maybe Stipe will get in the cage and perform like shit but thus far on visuals alone he looks physically ahead of Jones. If you were actually only 10% at 42 of what you were at 37 that differential would be reflected in your visual appearance. And Stipe still looks like an elite athlete. Not merely an older guy who added muscle but cant perform the same athletically.
 
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hes back on his old form being a big natural HW fighter

theres just guys like him that is naturaly bigger
the size of his head/jaw

the bone density
he looked strong maybe he needed more mass to outpower jones
in the nganou and dc fight he was very lean
i think he did that on purpose to out cardio both nganou and dc
and be a more agile and faster fighter
 
Just because stipe is in shape doesn't mean he's ready to fight,

Does anyone remember JDS and werdum juiced to the gills before their godawful bare knuckle fight where Jds just jabbed and circled and didn't throw a single right hand and werdum was unwilling to stand and also unable to take jds down, so he tried to roll into takedowns/ flop, and jds just circled and jabbed him for 15 minutes??

They both had huge muscles but were slow as hell, werdum was 46, jds was 39

Stipe is 42, and hasn't fought in 3 years.

We won't know until they're both in the cage, and fight a fight no one wants to see .

That being said, jones is older now too, his last two performances at lhw were pretty uninspired, but of course he got the decision, as is tradition.
werdum and jds where already badly damaged
they both got slept and been into many wars at that age

the cain vs jds alone took alot of prime years from jds

stipe got stopped 1 time and rested
i think the time off benefited him to heal

also jones has more fights than stipe and fought pro earlier than stipe
 
werdum and jds where already badly damaged
they both got slept and been into many wars at that age

the cain vs jds alone took alot of prime years from jds

stipe got stopped 1 time and rested
i think the time off benefited him to heal

also jones has more fights than stipe and fought pro earlier than stipe
So you are actually capable of making reasonable posts on this topic
 
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