What is up with the UFC being stingy signing Eastern European talent?

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Like I get that they don't want to have too many Eastern European in the UFC since their main audience is America and Easterners don't sell, but why don't they just release the bad ones they do have?

They were quick to sign someone like Khadis Ibragimov or keep guys like Roman Kopylov on the roster but pass on guys like Rustam Kerimov, Mukhamad Vakhaev, Albert Tumenov, Mateusz Rębecki. Even Mateusz Gamrot vacated his belts in 2019 and was a free agent, but eventually signed a two fight deal before UFC finally budged.

Not even Brazilians have this much trouble getting signed and I would say they usually aren't draws as well.
 
Basically what you said, they don't want half the roster to be Russian and they'd rather sign Chinese fighters.

Valiev had to wait two years to get in pretty much, they still haven't re-signed Tumenov. Magomedov got bored of waiting and signed for Bellator, same with Kerimov and Vakhaev returning to ACA.

Mineev could be a decent challenge to Izzy and they haven't signed him.

It's shocking really. Thankfully there's a decent amount booked on the contender series this year.
 
Basically what you said, they don't want half the roster to be Russian and they'd rather sign Chinese fighters.

Valiev had to wait two years to get in pretty much, they still haven't re-signed Tumenov. Magomedov got bored of waiting and signed for Bellator, same with Kerimov and Vakhaev returning to ACA.

Mineev could be a decent challenge to Izzy and they haven't signed him.

It's shocking really. Thankfully there's a decent amount booked on the contender series this year.
Just boggles my mind that they would rather sign Alan Baudot then an Eastern European guy. Most casuals will probably never even know and will just keep saying that all the best fight in UFC.
 
Just boggles my mind that they would rather sign Alan Baudot then an Eastern European guy. Most casuals will probably never even know and will just keep saying that all the best fight in UFC.

I think it might be harder to get the Russian guys on short notice (Baudot was a late replacement), but then Tumenov has his visa in order and wanted the Rodriguez fight and it went to Preston Parsons instead, so there you go.
 
Imagine if any other sport's "top league" had a quota on how many people of a certain nationality were able to join. There's a disconnect between the perception of what the UFC is and what it actually is.
 
Every choice the UFC makes will make sense when you realize that UFC is a business first and foremost. They exist to make money for their investors, shareholders, and owners just like any other major business.

East European countries are very small sporting markets, They have low populations and don’t spend as much on sporting events.

Countries with massive populations and high leisurely spending are what the UFC targets and where they try to get the highest number of athletes from. That’s why they are so focused on increasing the number of Chinese athletes on the roster
 
Imagine if any other sport's "top league" had a quota on how many people of a certain nationality were able to join. There's a disconnect between the perception of what the UFC is and what it actually is.

Most top soccer leagues have this in some form or other to be fair.
 
Most top soccer leagues have this in some form or other to be fair.
Do they? I ask that in earnest because I do not follow soccer. I figured the competition and need to win would squash this in team sports. I know for sure this isn't the case in any North American sports league.
 
Do they? I ask that in earnest because I do not follow soccer. I figured the competition and need to win would squash this in team sports. I know for sure this isn't the case in any North American sports league.

Yeah, you need to be able to qualify for a work permit to play in England, so although there's no limit on the amount of foreign players, they have to be able to meet a certain points criteria to be able to play here.

In Spain they have a limit on how many non EU players you can have in your squad.

EDIT - Thinking about it there is the homegrown rule in England, so in a 25 man squad at least 8 players have to qualify as homegrown (that doesn't always mean English, it's more based on time spent in English teams before 18 years old)..
 
UFC holds events and signs fighters based a lot on media contracts.
 
I think it might be harder to get the Russian guys on short notice (Baudot was a late replacement), but then Tumenov has his visa in order and wanted the Rodriguez fight and it went to Preston Parsons instead, so there you go.
Its getting real sad with Tumenov tbh. The guy pretty much is begging to be signed every other day through Twitter but the UFC keeps signing some other regional prospect instead.
 
Its getting real sad with Tumenov tbh. The guy pretty much is begging to be signed every other day through Twitter but the UFC keeps signing some other regional prospect instead.

It's probably Ali tweeting, but I do feel sorry for him lol.
 
We are hardcore fans and we understand this but we are a very tiny minority. Casual fans (who make up a vast majority of the market) dont care about who are the best; whoever holds the UFC belt is the best. Most people tune in to see Conor become unhinged and OMalley be a jackass.
 
Every choice the UFC makes will make sense when you realize that UFC is a business first and foremost. They exist to make money for their investors, shareholders, and owners just like any other major business.

East European countries are very small sporting markets, They have low populations and don’t spend as much on sporting events.

Countries with massive populations and high leisurely spending are what the UFC targets and where they try to get the highest number of athletes from. That’s why they are so focused on increasing the number of Chinese athletes on the roster
I can't help but feel like we could see some real monsters from China and India - the population numbers alone suggest that there's bound to be at least a few. But yeah - it's all about market - will signing this guy get us more views or not - if ufc is not shown in China/India, then there's not much point in even scouting the talent from those countries. Pride FC was quite different in that sense - it really was pretty international, even though it wasn't shown internationally.

So, when they say that UFC champs are the best in the world, it's rather easy to dismiss it as being bullshit.
 
Its getting real sad with Tumenov tbh. The guy pretty much is begging to be signed every other day through Twitter but the UFC keeps signing some other regional prospect instead.
It's probably Ali tweeting, but I do feel sorry for him lol.
I have the same feeling. Like he must have pissed off uncle Dana when he didn't resign with the UFC and went to Russia, and we all know how petty he is, even using recent example of Ariel having to be escorted out whenever Dana entered a building

Like just sign with Bellator or ACA if it doesn't happen and just enjoy the money if you don't get signed by the end of the year
 
I can't help but feel like we could see some real monsters from China and India - the population numbers alone suggest that there's bound to be at least a few. But yeah - it's all about market - will signing this guy get us more views or not - if ufc is not shown in China/India, then there's not much point in even scouting the talent from those countries. Pride FC was quite different in that sense - it really was pretty international, even though it wasn't shown internationally.

So, when they say that UFC champs are the best in the world, it's rather easy to dismiss it as being bullshit.
I guess I am missing the Pride days, where even tho it was mostly for the domestic Japanese market, the Japanese fans of it just enjoyed monsters going at each other.
 
Pride FC was quite different in that sense - it really was pretty international, even though it wasn't shown internationally.
UFC is pretty international too as they try to get talent from everywhere.

Regarding the Eastern Europe area, on the next UFC card Islam Makhachev is headlining, and Mateusz Gamrot from Poland is right below the co-main event. Plus Abubakar Nurmagomedov was suppose to be on there too but got injured. And lets not forget champions Jan Blachowicz, Petr Yan, and isn’t Valentina Shevchenko Eastern European? Isn’t nearly every UFC champion from outside the US?

Of course I wish UFC could bring in all you mentioned, plus Ali Bagautinov, but I also do notice that they’ve put a concentrated effort into reaching around the globe.
 
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Basically what you said, they don't want half the roster to be Russian and they'd rather sign Chinese fighters.

Valiev had to wait two years to get in pretty much, they still haven't re-signed Tumenov. Magomedov got bored of waiting and signed for Bellator, same with Kerimov and Vakhaev returning to ACA.

Mineev could be a decent challenge to Izzy and they haven't signed him.

It's shocking really. Thankfully there's a decent amount booked on the contender series this year.
Mineev few years ago was like -- people are thinking that UFC is a good promotion because Russians thinks that if something is American it means this thing is good but in reality UFC and their fighters are not better than Fight Nights/Russian promotions, I can find good opponents here and not gonna sign with UFC. Then he was talking about fighting at WW in mma, in reality he fought a few times at some catchweight and never wasable to make WW limit. Recently, I think he became kinda warmer to UFC. But -- he is friends with one of Fight Nights founders and he is getting paid millions for fight with Ismailov, if I'm not mistaken. I also remember he was talking about fighting A. Emelianenko under boxing rules this year. I think he also said that he was planning to fight 2 times before ismailov fight, one of the fights as far as I remember was supposed to be a kickboxing bout versus K. Gluhov (seems it is rescheduled or something, because of COVID). So I think he is getting paid some good money in Russia and I doubt UFC is interested in wasting money on him or allowing him to have boxing and kickboxing bouts.
Like I get that they don't want to have too many Eastern European in the UFC since their main audience is America and Easterners don't sell, but why don't they just release the bad ones they do have?

They were quick to sign someone like Khadis Ibragimov or keep guys like Roman Kopylov on the roster but pass on guys like Rustam Kerimov, Mukhamad Vakhaev, Albert Tumenov, Mateusz Rębecki. Even Mateusz Gamrot vacated his belts in 2019 and was a free agent, but eventually signed a two fight deal before UFC finally budged.

Not even Brazilians have this much trouble getting signed and I would say they usually aren't draws as well.
About guys like Ibragimov -- he was M-1 champ and they had agreement that M-1 champs can go to UFC Kopylov was Fight Nights champ (am I right?) so it's not like they signed some nobodies.
I am pretty sure that Kerimov, Vakhaev and Tumenov had problems with American visa so there is no reason in signing them during COVID times when like 90 % of UFC events happens in US. Plus there is already signed multiple Russians with visa problems -- Emeev, Taisumov, Gamzatov, Fakhretdinov (it's on the top of my head, there is probably a few others). And I don't think Poland is considered to be an Eastern European country.
Also seems like UFC signing is based on connections sometimes -- that's why there there is a couple of Khabib's relatives on UFC roster (and I've seen some Kazakhstani or Tajikistani media wrote that Ulanbekov is a distant relative of Khabib too).
And also I think Vakhaev mentioned, not regarding UFC, just that when he was thinking that he is a free agent ACA informed him that he owns them a fight. I think I've seen also some other ex-ACA fighter said something like that -- so maybe fighters don't know/remember what is in their contracts or there is something with their contracts. And I think also some fighters/fans was saying something like that about ACA -- if you don't want to resign they take long pauses in offering fights to you or offer fights with ridiculou circumstances, or like their latest invention -- can't remmeber exactly but it's something like that bonus money or bonus for finishing your opponent will receive only fighters who signed long-term deals with them.
So, I can understand that UFC or other promotions will prefer to sign guys outside of ACA.

I also remember current situation with Duraev and DWTNCS. Duraev was making fun of Islamist victim/freedom of speech on social media and haven't fought in years yet, probably since he is a friend of Khamzat they give him a fight. Personally, I have my doubts that if he gets into the UFC he will be more successfull than Imadaev.
 
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