What happens when diversity wins and the minorities are the solid majority?

[goldennirvana]

America was founded, built, and thrives on being a multicultural melting pot.

It was founded by whites, and built mainly by whites. Yes black slaves played a part, but slaves do not create great countries like the USA because it takes more than labour to create a country like the USA. The USA benefited from waves of European migrations. Now it's opened its doors to large amounts of Mexicans, Middle-Easterners, Africans and others, it's beginning to fall apart. No one in their right mind can believe the USA is better off because it's allowed in large numbers of third world immigrants. If you do really believe this and it's just so obvious to you that this kind of diversity is a positive thing which doesn't need to be debated (because it's self-evident), why hasn't every other country on the planet attempted to diversify its population the same way the USA has? Why haven't countries like China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Argentina, Israel etc etc all allowed in vast numbers of third world immigrants so that their respective nations can "thrive" on the diversity, hmmmmm? We both know the answer to that, but it'll be humorous watching you try to explain it away. lol

You didn't get here first, you don't get to draw the line as to when others can or cannot do what your family did sometime in the past.

The USA cannot take in everyone who wants to come to the USA. The infrastructure will buckle, race relations will suffer (even more than they are), and the USA will essentially cease to exist. For a nation to exist, it has to enforce its borders and have a strict immigration system. Anything to the contrary is national suicide.

 

[helltoupee]

It was founded by whites, and built mainly by whites. Yes black slaves played a part, but slaves do not create great countries like the USA because it takes more than labour to create a country like the USA. The USA benefited from waves of European migrations. Now it's opened its doors to large amounts of Mexicans, Middle-Easterners, Africans and others, it's beginning to fall apart. No one in their right mind can believe the USA is better off because it's allowed in large numbers of third world immigrants. If you do really believe this and it's just so obvious to you that this kind of diversity is a positive thing which doesn't need to be debated (because it's self-evident), why hasn't every other country on the planet attempted to diversify its population the same way the USA has? Why haven't countries like China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Argentina, Israel etc etc all allowed in vast numbers of third world immigrants so that their respective nations can "thrive" on the diversity, hmmmmm? We both know the answer to that, but it'll be humorous watching you try to explain it away. lol.

So what you are saying is that immigrants are ok, as long as they are "white".

 

[Devout Pessimist]

This is hilarious considering what just happened. The threat to Western values is not coming from minorities. Trump explicitly rejected Western values and won the presidency (and minority groups were a large part of the pro-American opposition). And other politicians in the West have tried the same (Le Pen, Farage, etc.).

I have consistently been saying that the threat to Western Values is mainly coming from white leftists. A large percentage of which are white women.

 

[steelcity77]

Who is "they"?

America was founded, built, and thrives on being a multicultural melting pot.

the U.S. was never under 80% white from 1790 until after 1990 .. it was at just about 90% white from 1920-60

 

[steelcity77]

So what you are saying is that immigrants are ok, as long as they are "white".

why do you have a problem with a majority european descent country staying majority european descent ?

 

[helltoupee]

the U.S. was never under 80% white from 1790 until after 1990 .. it was at just about 90% white from 1920-60

Who were immigrants, no less.

 

[helltoupee]

why do you have a problem with a majority european descent country staying majority european descent ?

Stagnation and evolution are not compatible, Adolf.

 

[Greoric]

Stagnation and evolution are not compatible, Adolf.

I don't know what you mean by stagnation, but separation and evolution are. In fact, they have a causal relationship.

 

[steelcity77]

Stagnation and evolution are not compatible, Adolf.

the U.S. would still be a superpower with or without the 60s immigration act .. it reached its greatness with an overwhelming white majority .. that must burn you I guess .. probably would be even more advanced by now as well ..

as for your worthless racist baiting buzzwords, take that shit somewhere else .. that shit is static noise to me .. America was an overwhelmingly white country .. and there was nothing wrong with that as much as you idiots try to imply it was .. nor is there anything wrong with wanting to keep it that way

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

^---GOAT Peoples President.

 

[Greoric]

the U.S. would still be a superpower with or without the 60s immigration act .. it reached its greatness with an overwhelming white majority .. that must burn you I guess .. probably would be even more advanced by now as well ..

as for your worthless racist baiting buzzwords, take that shit somewhere else .. that shit is static noise to me .. America was an overwhelmingly white country .. and there was nothing wrong with that as much as you idiots try to imply it was .. nor is there anything wrong with wanting to keep it that way

The interesting part is that despite whites being the only ones with the racist label, they're also the only ethnicity with a background, and whom contrived universalist ethical principles as opposed to the kinship based tribalism of Africa and collectivism of Asians.

 

[Greoric]

^---GOAT Peoples President.

Funny how they all appreciate him because they're all entrepreneurs themselves. It's always beautiful to see some not fall victim to the democratic voting plantation slavery.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

So I’m sitting here in a library and across the way and some girl is watching Laci Green videos and vlogs about how racist Trump is, and it got me thinking… What exactly do people think is going to happen if minority groups with notably different value sets than those we are used to in the Liberal Western world are no longer a minority? If we look at places around the world that these people often come from, where they are the majority and their values the norm we’ll see, all but across the board, regimes which by the standards of the Liberal West are *abhorrent*. From the many corners of Africa, to the Middle East, and many places in Asia, there are unchallenged laws and popularly and publicly held opinions that, in many of the countries we hail from, support of which would be immediate grounds for firing, social shaming, etc. Yet, paradoxically, we push multiculturalism and diversity as some of the greatest virtues of our society – so, I’m curious, what do Sherdoggers think is going to happen when those minority groups become the solid majority that controls policy?

This is the question for people on the left and right alike, though I think I have a pretty good idea about where you all stand. Flesh it out for us though – what do you expect to happen when the majority is composed of people representing cultures that, in their own countries, have enforced policies and widely hold views that many of you would immediately denounce your next door neighbors for support of.

Also, some food for thought..

“More than half of British Muslims (52%) think homosexuality should not be legal, and nearly half (47%) think it is not appropriate for gay people to teach in schools, according to a new survey of British Muslims.”

We must embrace other cultures and respect their ways - or must be quash such backwards views and impose our more enlightened culture upon the barbarians in concert with the ways of our colonialist heritage? Only once they have rejected their own core values and accepted our more correct ones will we have true diversity.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html


“Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance towards homosexual acts compared to their counterparts in France and Germany, according to a survey published today.

The Gallup poll features the results of telephone and face-to-face interviews with Muslims and non-Muslims in the UK, France and Germany and is designed to measure global attitudes towards people from different faith traditions.”

Can we expect the values we have fought long and hard for to fall prey to the bigotry of the people we have, in our rush to not be bigots ourselves, allowed to build their pulpits and strongholds in our homelands? When their votes are the majority, what will they vote to make the standards of our land?

“The most dramatic contrast was found in attitudes towards homosexuality. None of the 500 British Muslims interviewed believed that homosexual acts were morally acceptable. 1,001 non-Muslim Britons were interviewed.”

Or can we expect their cultures to bend to what we deem acceptable through education in assimilation – and only when their backwards cultures bow to ours, as has been the way of elitist colonial mindsets throughout European history, will we be able to declare that “multiculturalism” has won?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

"He said non-Muslims would be welcome to move into his project of prefabricated homes, but they would have to share the values of their Muslim neighbours.

“You don’t drive drunk on the street. If you want to drink alcohol, you drink it in your house,” he said. Women could choose whether to wear the headscarf but they could not walk around in a halter-top and shorts.

“There must be some modesty in the way you dress. We don’t want women living there going half-naked down the streets. We don’t like that,” he said. “If they want to do that, let them go and live in downtown Montreal.”

Will they form cloistered communities in which they will create replicas of their own countries, proudly espousing policies and philosophies that we would immediately denounce our neighbors as bigots for even hinting at? Diversity will be "letting their views that we find abhorrent thrive - just in that neighborhood over there" as they look out at us in the same way?

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/muslim-housing-development-proposed-for-montreal.3400043/

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ontreal-is-discrimination-quebec-premier-says

Seriously, we're on the verge of whites in America becoming less than half the voter base, and if birth and immigration rates around the world are any indicator, the cultures that masterminded the enlightened, Western, Liberal democracies around the globe will be outnumbered in their own countries within our lifetime. What do the two deathly opposed sides of this see happening when your children and their children are growing old?

Also, just to be clear, while my examples are focusing on Muslims, this is not solely a Muslims VS the West phenomenon. Groups from all corners of the world will be knocking on your doors, not just from the Middle East.

I think the minorities will be ruthless and will eventually marginalize and maybe even slaughter white liberals.

Hatred of all whites isn't likely but hatred of modern day liberalism espoused by largely whites is 100% against the ideological doctrines of the other 90% of the world's population.

I also suspect many whites will convert to Islam (we already see increased rates of native Europeans converting to Islam) and it makes sense since so many Europeans lack any real identity or culture and many follow the life sucking cosmopolitan capitalistic empty lifestyle. Islam at least gives their life meaning and is pro family and embraces a community.

Also dont forget Bosnia, Kosovo, and Albania are white majority Muslim nations. And Spain was once Muslim as was much of the other Balkan countries.


In any case from a Darwinian perspective it is beautiful what is happening. But from a moral perspective it is sad. Just like the mass killing of whites in South Africa is only a matter of time away, for we know that point is approaching.

This is hilarious considering what just happened. The threat to Western values is not coming from minorities. Trump explicitly rejected Western values and won the presidency (and minority groups were a large part of the pro-American opposition). And other politicians in the West have tried the same (Le Pen, Farage, etc.).

Just keep in mind that people like yourself and myself will be on the chopping block. It is unfortunate but it is I suppose nature's way. Exactly where was god during the holocaust or the death of millions of Indians via disease?

And so to will people ask where was god when white liberals were slaughtered and their ideology destroyed?
And what exact western values are you talking about? The same ones that supported slavery? Or what?

Oh and farage and Le Pen are way better than Trump and not as dumb.


How many kids do you have? Liberals do not reproduce enough and the 3rd world is literally exploding in population. Asia and African peoples will make up 90% of the world population before you know it and they are not liberal or tolerant by any means.

Trump is a fool but as centrist quasi left wing nationalist with socialist views I like some of his stances. I support diversity diversity for America but not for all nations on earth. Hence why I disliked the whole "make America white again" shit that some Trump supporters espoused.

 

[Greoric]

I think the minorities will be ruthless and will eventually marginalize and maybe even slaughter white liberals.

Hatred of all whites isn't likely but hatred of modern day liberalism espoused by largely whites is 100% against the ideological doctrines of the other 90% of the world's population.

I also suspect many whites with convert to islam. Bosnia, Kosovo, and Albania are white majority Muslim nations. And Spain was once muslim.

In any case from a Darwinian perspective it is beautiful what is happening. But from a moral perspective it is sad. Just like the mass killing of whites in South Africa is only a matter of time away, for we know that point is approaching.

Just keep in mind that people like yourself will be on the chopping block. It is unfortunate but it is I suppose nature's way. Exactly where was god during the holocaust or the death of millions of Indians via disease?

And so to will people ask where was god when white liberals were slaughtered and their ideology destroyed?
And what exact western values are you talking about? The same ones that supported slavery? Or what?

Oh and farage and Le Pen are way better than Trump and not as dumb.


How many kids do you have? Liberals do not reproduce enough and the 3rd world is literally exploding in population. Asia and African peoples will make up 90% of the world population before you k ow it and they ate not liberal or tolerant by any means.

Trump is a fool but as centrist quasi left wing nationalist with socialist views I like some of his stances. I support diversity diversity for America but not for all nations on earth. Hence why I disliked the whole "make America white again" shit that some Trump supporters espoused.

That's a really interesting post, but why do you specify white liberals as opposed to white conservatives? Seems as if, assuming the worst from the demographic shift, that they would inevitably give a pass to the liberals...

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

white men and women will live only to sexually services said minorities, obviously.

Liberal white women and men. Non liberal whites will other convert to islam or move east of the old Iron curtain. Lol

 

[Stokanator]

It's disgusting to what degree liberals will jeopardize race relations for the sake of

In my country, it seems a lot of people are ignoring the huge elephant in the room, And that elephant is the ever increasing amount of Muslim enclaves popping up around Britain's largest cities.

These people have no interest or desire to assimilate. In Britain we've had immigration from all around the world in the past 50 years and they all integrated and assimilated with British culture successfully.

This is spot on what bothers me the most! Why bring thousands or refugees into a culture they dislike so much and goes against there values, and on top of that don't speak the language! You'd think they'd be much happier in another Muslim nation!

It's the same in America! Immigrants in the past wanted to come here and become American, the people want to bring their way of life to the US.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

That's a really interesting post, but why do you specify white liberals as opposed to white conservatives? Seems as if, assuming the worst from the demographic shift, that they would inevitably give a pass to the liberals...

Because the nonwhite world isn't liberal by our current definition of liberalism that is promoted in Canada, Sweden, Germany or the USA.

In the west all white liberals and liberals in general will be the first ones to be brutalized since they promote things which are foreign and counterproductive to the interests of 90% of the world's population.

Let's say for example Muslims become the majority in the UK and the UK becomes majority nonwhite. I can assure you the country would become less liberal. That doesn't mean they would see to genocide white people but rather just persecute whites who promote an ideology which is counter to theirs.

White Christian conservatives would be persecuted but not to the extent that white liberals would be. Unless say ISIS took over. However, historically speaking Islamic empires and societies ha e generally tolerated Christians and their conservative view points because they often line up with Islamic conservative views. However, in such Islamic societies Christians are always aware they should not try and influence the government or undermine the Islamic way.

And lastly white people have existed as minorities under Arab rule before and did just fine. The differences in skin color and all isn't as significant as between blacks and whites. Some Arabs or Turks can pass as white and some whites (non nordics) can pass as middle eastern.

Therefore I don't see a middle eastern conquest of Europe as leading to the death of all white Europeans. However if African blacks conquered Europe I think they would. Just like they will try to do this in South Africa, there is also the revenge angel to in South Africa.

 

[Renard]

It might be a metaphorical fall of Rome. It won't be anything spectacular, the fall was slow, driven by internal factors. Ideology is a problem. The Marxist-types are useless, maladapted to society, have no standards for themselves, take pride in being victims, can't think rationally. They'll never be able to administer anything. Millennials are receptive or already indoctrinated to this school of thinking. Europe has gone crazy, accepting millions of migrants who hate them, rampant self-hate, suppressing of crimes by migrants, targeting their own citizens with imaginary hate crimes. The western world is becoming irrational, unpatriotic, weak, spineless, lacking common sense, lacking cohesion, lacking pride, can't look after their own self-interests, can't protect their own citizens. A society can't maintain itself when manned by a group of people like that. A lot can change in say, 100 years, but for now not looking good.

 

[Greoric]

Because the nonwhite world isn't liberal by our current definition of liberalism that is promoted in Canada, Sweden, Germany or the USA.

In the west all white liberals and liberals in general will be the first ones to be brutalized since they promote things which are foreign and counterproductive to the interests of 90% of the world's population.

Let's say for example Muslims become the majority in the UK and the UK becomes majority nonwhite. I can assure you the country would become less liberal. That doesn't mean they would see to genocide white people but rather just persecute whites who promote an ideology which is counter to theirs.

White Christian conservatives would be persecuted but not to the extent that white liberals would be. Unless say ISIS took over. However, historically speaking Islamic empires and societies ha e generally tolerated Christians and their conservative view points because they often line up with Islamic conservative views. However, in such Islamic societies Christians are always aware they should not try and influence the government or undermine the Islamic way.

And lastly white people have existed as minorities under Arab rule before and did just fine. The differences in skin color and all isn't as significant as between blacks and whites. Some Arabs or Turks can pass as white and some whites (non nordics) can pass as middle eastern.

Therefore I don't see a middle eastern conquest of Europe as leading to the death of all white Europeans. However if African blacks conquered Europe I think they would. Just like they will try to do this in South Africa, there is also the revenge angel to in South Africa.

God damn', and here I was just mud sucked into watching government overreach as the one and only problem in society.

 

[mixcontactsport]

the U.S. would still be a superpower with or without the 60s immigration act .. it reached its greatness with an overwhelming white majority .. that must burn you I guess .. probably would be even more advanced by now as well ..

as for your worthless racist baiting buzzwords, take that shit somewhere else .. that shit is static noise to me .. America was an overwhelmingly white country .. and there was nothing wrong with that as much as you idiots try to imply it was .. nor is there anything wrong with wanting to keep it that way

Why are White Americans so pessimistic about their Country's Leadership and future? The way I see it, not specifically "White", but the broader term "Caucasoid" race are on top of society, they will always be on top. They are/will be the rulers of the World. Globalization is happening and is taking over the World, it is a Western thing, it's an American thing, it's a .....White thing.