What exactly would you have done better than Beltran??

[DapperDave]

Corneal abrasion causes instant disability: impaired vision, tearing, impaired control of blink reflex and lid musculature.

Abrasion can easily be caused by by either poking or swiping.

Abrasion occurs in degrees, some not too bad, some really bad, and everywhere in between.

The crazy part was watching the swipe in slo-mo during the break while hearing Beltran call out "legal strike, continue fighting."

The ref team dropped the ball. It happens.
I'm sure it has happened a few times in NFL or MLJ they implemented review.

Extended fingers man. Why allow it?

Recent examples:
Cejudo gets poked, then the opponent comes right at him with extended fingers the very instant the fight re-started.
Kape was photographed raking more than once.

The solution is easy: use review combined with mandatory point deduction regardless of any other rule:
1 - if a fighter pokes, dock a point.
2 - if a fighter claims he was poked but review shows he was not poked or raked, dock that guy a point.
3 - if an eye poke is accidental, dock the poker a point. Then tell him to go train how to fight without accidentally poking opponents in the eye.

If you poke a guy, you can still win the fight, just knock your opponent out or submit him.

I like Kape's focus: he got the same eye every time.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

And I've seen eyes get destroyed with legal shots. Cro Cop wrecked Bob Sapps orbital with one punch. Belfort cut Coutures eye with his glove. All sorts of weird shit.

I'm the biggest Weidman fan too but I must admit his ufc return was sad AF and his lone win was total horse shit.

But ufc don't want to address it because it's too inconvenient and it's easier to elevate the winner. And again what sucks about Song and Manel (or Jones?) Is they should've won anyway without cheating. Cheating was unnecessary but they did it anyway lmao. That last poke Manel landed was a sneaky last second eye poke hidden in a legal punch

We have the benefit of 4k slow motion replays but it doesn't even matter. Just get em to a title fight I guess and film their interviews for espn!

 

[CroCopsLHK]

And back to what I was saying about they "should've won", Manel looked awesome. When he's fast and aggressive I love him. Exceptional flyweight and championship material. Kind of a dick, I've seen it with his history with Mokaev and Uncle Creepy... but he's fun as fuck. No way he was going to lose last Saturday

Song Yadong... Total stud. Chinese wrestler with TAM, young, large for his division. Good striking and wrestling. His fight with Cejudo was a little tough but he had every advantage. And yeah he poked the fuck out of him with outstretched fingers and then jokes about it when the fight restarts. And we have people here saying Henry rammed his eye into Songs fingers. Like he wanted to risk blindness for a more honorable fight outcome

Jon Jones... perhaps the greatest of all time. Amazing everywhere, ungodly tough, every physical advantage. Yet he has eyepoked several opponents. And brags about it. Why? To be a jerk and find an easier path? Or was it necessary for the success?

Can't shit on these fighters and I want to see the good in them but I don't like this path to victory

 

[Mind Mine]

I missed it live, but the reaction and motion is pretty obvious.
Kape slaps with his lead hand and catches the eye.

The whole finishing sequences is the issue. Beltran did so poorly that he missed an eye poke, then stopped it on a deep takedown entry. It's MMA, the ground exists. Beltran needs to put his hand up and admit he fell on them running over and stopped it to cover his own arse. It's very obvious on replay.

edit:Here is the stoppage minus the eye poke. It's a terrible stoppage all round. He barely takes anything flush, is clearly with it and creates space to turn around. You actually see him wipe his eye in the sequence, but even ignoring the eye poke it sucks.He covers up, creates space and turns back in to fight as soon as he can.

Nope if you missed it live you were pre biased. It was chaos in the moment and I highly doubt a soul saw the poke

 

[maximus__]

Nope if you missed it live you were pre biased. It was chaos in the moment and I highly doubt a soul saw the poke

That doesn't change the fact that Beltran stopped the fight on a takedown entry. Your own thread is about what I would have done better than Beltran.

I wouldn't have ran into the fighters by accident, stopped it because of that and then cover my own arse by committing to that choice. As I pointed out, he has done this before and it's resulted in a NC when a fighter was about to win. The eye poke is just an additional thing that occurred in the 10 seconds prior to the finish I put up before and explains why one fighter was retreating. it's just a bonus screw up by Beltran and the cage side ref calling no eye poke earlier.

I am actually against slapping in MMA fights for the same reason. It's too easy to accidentally be out of range and do the same thing.I train MMA, all you need to do is reach with a closed fist to measure the distance instead and it goes away. That's why the old Pride gloves were curved down and this happened less. You couldn't reach out with fingers extended or push off the face. They did it with a closed fist instead or entered the clinch.

Beltran's sole job is to referee. He is literally standing within a few feet of these guys watching this. We only get to see specific angles given to us by the UFC based on what the camera guys shows. The initial angle was of Beltrans arse at the time of the finish on Fight pass. It wasn't as bad. There is also a side angle available since the fight happened that shows how deep the takedown entry was at the time of the stoppage. It was terrible. Don't defend incompetence. 2nd week in a row that a main event has been screwed up by a long time ref doing the wrong thing.

 

[Domitian]

Id choose different career

Aww no. Imagine getting to watch MMA fights directly inside the cage. Best view in the house.

 

[usernamee]

I would've joined a motorcycle club and stopped this cage reffing shenanigans

 

[usernamee]

Aww no. Imagine getting to watch MMA fights directly inside the cage. Best view in the house.

"It even feels real wow best seat in the house!!"

 

[Hank Grill]

He did pretty good in BKFC I think he did better than most fighters

 

[Mind Mine]

That doesn't change the fact that Beltran stopped the fight on a takedown entry. Your own thread is about what I would have done better than Beltran.

I wouldn't have ran into the fighters by accident, stopped it because of that and then cover my own arse by committing to that choice. As I pointed out, he has done this before and it's resulted in a NC when a fighter was about to win. The eye poke is just an additional thing that occurred in the 10 seconds prior to the finish I put up before and explains why one fighter was retreating. it's just a bonus screw up by Beltran and the cage side ref calling no eye poke earlier.

I am actually against slapping in MMA fights for the same reason. It's too easy to accidentally be out of range and do the same thing.I train MMA, all you need to do is reach with a closed fist to measure the distance instead and it goes away. That's why the old Pride gloves were curved down and this happened less. You couldn't reach out with fingers extended or push off the face. They did it with a closed fist instead or entered the clinch.

Beltran's sole job is to referee. He is literally standing within a few feet of these guys watching this. We only get to see specific angles given to us by the UFC based on what the camera guys shows. The initial angle was of Beltrans arse at the time of the finish on Fight pass. It wasn't as bad. There is also a side angle available since the fight happened that shows how deep the takedown entry was at the time of the stoppage. It was terrible. Don't defend incompetence. 2nd week in a row that a main event has been screwed up by a long time ref doing the wrong thing.

Again you are making so many other points that I honestly have no gripe with legitimate complaining over. My issue is SOLELY the complaint over how he handled THE EYEPOKES. I didn’t see anything wrong or right about his call about THE EYEPOKE. He either saw it or he didn’t and it happened so quick I doubt he did.

 

[Azure]

Most people on here have no idea how hard it is to ref most sports.