What do you think about trumps ideas?

I just posted an article above that showed how farms in Georgia couldn't find legal workers and even had to resort to using court ordered farm hands...and even THAT failed miserably, costing the state hundreds of millions. So no, it's not that simple.

I guess where we differ is you are saying that the situation in Georgia indicates that stopping illegals can be a complicated issue whereas Im saying the situation in Georgia indicates a refusal of our govt to control the immigration problem with any real solutions. If we had an extremely secure border and an efficient worker program there wouldnt be an issue. Again I dont believe that our govt has put any effort at all into fixing this situation. When nothing is done right, you have situations like in Georgia. Get an administration that truly is motivated to solve the issue and youd see how fast it could happen. Theyve just been too corrupt to do so. Both Bush and Obama.
 
It is our problem if we created it. If you want to talk about helping legal citizens, OK. Lets take the billions of dollars spent every year fighting (and failing) the drug war and put that towards helping our citizens. Good luck getting republicans on board with that amount "socialism"

I'm totally fine with ending the war on drugs, and legalizing pot outright. But let's put all those billions towards education.
 
80% of the show was NOT debate. It was individual questions to the candidates. A debate includes providing justified reasoning for your position. If placed in a REAL debate, where he must face off with other candidates, he would be pummeled because he speaks only in rhetoric and insults.

Regardless, I hope future debates get into more detail, reasoning, and substance. Less about the stuff they did last debate and more about what each candidate will do in office.
 
Apparently I (and pretty much the entire national field of serious political analysts) aren't the only ones who find Trump's campaign and his "ideas" to be a joke:
Sources: Roger Stone quit, wasn't fired by Donald Trump in campaign shakeup
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-we-fired-top-political-adviser-roger-stone/

Yeah. His #1 political adviser, and the most experienced, became so disgusted with the sideshow and the focus on Megyn Kelly that he resigned from the campaign. Trump alleges that he fired Roger (because it makes so much sense to fire a guy who has helped you to a roaring lead), but Politico previously had been contacted by Stone's friends informing them of Stone's intents.

Trump's campaign alleges it fired Stone on Saturday night, and denies a conversation took place which Politico asserts it established independently from multiple sources, and then Maggie Haberman of the NYT confirmed that Stone sent a letter of resignation Saturday morning (which has been obtained and verified by CBS/CNN); not before Friday night, obviously, but sent hours before Trump announced his "firing", or gave any other indication what he said happened actually happened as there was no record anywhere from the Trump campaign that they fired him Friday night or Saturday morning before these events confirming Stone's account. Trump's campaign manager's response was to deny they saw the letter.

Trump comes off about as believable as when he tried to backpedal by saying that he intended to imply that Kelly was bleeding out of her "nose", not via menstruation, but either way, it doesn't matter. The first thread in the ball of yarn has splayed. Trump is proving too misogynistic for the misogynists; too racist for the racists; too vacuous for the serious.

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Roger Stone said:
"We don't have time for political correctness, but the campaign seems to have run into a cul-de-sac and I'm disappointed by the lack of specificity put forward by the campaign today."
 
Regardless, I hope future debates get into more detail, reasoning, and substance. Less about the stuff they did last debate and more about what each candidate will do in office.

I absolutely agree.
 
Regardless, I hope future debates get into more detail, reasoning, and substance. Less about the stuff they did last debate and more about what each candidate will do in office.

I'm a little tired of people running on undoing everything Obama did. I know you have your problems with him, but it's tiresome hearing guys say the same stuff over and over to try and get cheers. "I'll rip up the Iran Deal and repeal Obamacare!" ...okay, and then?
 
I'm a little tired of people running on undoing everything Obama did. I know you have your problems with him, but it's tiresome hearing guys say the same stuff over and over to try and get cheers. "I'll rip up the Iran Deal and repeal Obamacare!" ...okay, and then?

That's fantastic, and the people need to know the next POTUS will go in and correct all of Obama's idiocies, but this was only the first debate. They'll have plenty of time over the next 10 debates to talk about what they'll do in office besides that.
 
I'm a little tired of people running on undoing everything Obama did. I know you have your problems with him, but it's tiresome hearing guys say the same stuff over and over to try and get cheers. "I'll rip up the Iran Deal and repeal Obamacare!" ...okay, and then?

"China and Japan are beating us; I can beat China."

Well...how are you gonna do that Mr. Trump?
 
"China and Japan are beating us; I can beat China."

Well...how are you gonna do that Mr. Trump?
By "making American great again", Kill Kill. Haven't you been listening to all these great proposals?
 
By "making American great again", Kill Kill. Haven't you been listening to all these great proposals?

It's foolproof! I wish I had no integrity, it'd be a riot trolling as a Trump supporter.
 
Maybe he can get the black lives matter people to go after the Chinese government?

Seth Meyers joke from the WHC Dinner a couple years back was priceless.

"Mr. Trump says he has a great relationship with the blacks, though unless "The Blacks" are a family of white people, I bet he's mistaken."
 
Seth Meyers joke from the WHC Dinner a couple years back was priceless.

"Mr. Trump says he has a great relationship with the blacks, though unless "The Blacks" are a family of white people, I bet he's mistaken."

That's comedy gold
 
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