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Crime What did the cops do wrong today. Vol. 2

Phisher said:
They stopped him because they thought the cane was a gun at distance. It obviously wasn't one up close.

You don't need to be legally blind to own a folding cane.

They brought him in on a humble for talking back. Tax payer money to be wasted on a settlement because of fragile egos.
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However, you should be considered legally blind if you get within the distance the police car was to the guy when the silly cunts out of it and don't recognize what it is right away.
 
Andy Capp said:
So, I take it you've never heard the expression, "go along to get along"?
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I've heard it in a multitude of settings and situations. But there's a line and it's a lot closer to where the textbook says it is than many people think.
 
Andy Capp said:
However, you should be considered legally blind if you get within the distance the police car was to the guy when the silly cunts out of it and don't recognize what it is right away.
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I'm half surprised the arrest wasn't for pulling it out of his back pocket.
Everything the cops did after seeing it was a walking stick is ridiculous.
 
nhbbear said:
in 2021, there were almost 700k. I know the stat you are looking at that has some 300 k police officers, but that doesn’t count federal, tribal, and some other Leo group.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/
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I don't know whom you are used to discussing stuff like this with but you have made a false assumption. I know absolutely nothing whatsoever about whatever it is you're referring to. If I were already aware of published empirical data I would have said so and sourced it or disclaimed my inability to source the data.

What that link you posted doesn't say is the proportion of "bad" cops. Again, your personal anecdotal experience aside, which, having decried making a mountain out of an anecdotal mole hill yourself ITT, to wit, "Even though I disagree with the use of force in that video, throwing in the childish dipshit acab is what I expect from you based upon the actions of a few officers..." I'm sure you understand why I find myself forced to reiterate again and again on this site that anecdotes aren't worth a fuck. Where's your data showing there's only a handful of these weasels in municipal police departments, hm?

Regardless, I had a different idea in mind, following from my earlier mention of the tendency to go along to get along. How the fuck would you measure the number of so called bad apples without knowing about the ones who don't get caught and those who are aware of but don't dare report malfeasance for fear of reprisal?
 
*note-this is not the response I had posted earlier. Somehow, something I said was transcribed over what I typed.

so here goes, albeit, a much shorter version. I think we misunderstood each other. I was commenting on the number of police in the country and pointing out that your figure was incorrect. I can’t recall the exact discussion, but I imagine something along the lines of a sarcastic “only a few bad apples.”

I have a masters in Crim and I look at many of these cases or topics in law enforcement and begin devising some kind of research that could answer these questions. I honestly can’t come up with much of a design that could ever cover the good cop v bad cop ratio. Besides a “how satisfied are you with the job your police are doing?” Which is the weakest most subjective method out there. We simply have no way to compile the data. One method of data gathering would be to make a department or branch of the government that collects stats such as number of arrests, % of arrests involving force, number of police shootings where subject lived vs died, and the number of interactions with citizens daily. I read somewhere that out of the hundreds of thousands of on duty officers every day, there are millions of law enforcement encounters with citizens such as traffic stops, RAS stops, calls for service, etc. you could get stats that could tell you out of the millions of interactions daily, how many lead to arrest, how many involved force, how many shootings? It’s still not telling the whole story, but it’s a start. This would require every police officer to co plate an fbi form every shift for every officer and then someone to crunch those monster sized numbers.

Then you get into the extremely subjective “what makes a good vs bad cop” which does nothing for us, so we are stuck with random sampling polls and stats that don’t tell the whole story. You get a flat number of people killed by police each year, which is broken into the all important black vs white stats that show police are 2.5 times more likely to shoot a black man than a white man even though whites account for higher numbers as would be expected. What those numbers don’t take Into account is whether the subject was armed and their actions, so again, pretty much useless without further numbers. Maybe that government agency I spoke of goes back and checks “justified or not” after the investigation is complete.
 
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The police didn’t get out of the way fast enough imo

 
in your opinion? Must have been pretty horrific for the guy, right?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/randy-cox-paralyzed-5-new-haven-officers-charged-police-van-injury/

5 Connecticut police officers charged after Black man left paralyzed following ride in police van

Five Connecticut police officers were charged with misdemeanors Monday over their treatment of a Black man after he was paralyzed from the chest down in the back of a police van.

Randy Cox, 36, was being driven to a New Haven police station June 19 for processing on a weapons charge when the driver braked hard, apparently to avoid a collision, causing Cox to fly headfirst into the wall of the van, police said. The incident was caught on video.

As Cox pleaded for help, saying he couldn't move, some of the officers mocked him and accused him of being drunk and faking his injuries. Then, the officers dragged him by his feet from the van and placed him in a holding cell prior to his eventual transfer to a hospital.

"It made me sick to my stomach, to treat somebody like that," Cox's sister, Latoya Boomer, told CBS News.

The five New Haven police officers were charged with second-degree reckless endangerment and cruelty to persons. The officers were identified as Officer Oscar Diaz, Officer Ronald Pressley, Officer Jocelyn Lavandier, Officer Luis Rivera and Sgt. Betsy Segui.

All have been on administrative leave since last summer.

New Haven's police chief, speaking to reporters Monday along with the city's mayor, said it was important for the department to be transparent and accountable.

"You can make mistakes, but you can't treat people poorly, period. You cannot treat people the way Mr. Cox was treated," said Police Chief Karl Jacobson.

The officers turned themselves in at a state police barracks Monday. Each was processed, posted a $25,000 bond and are due back in court Dec. 8, according to a news release from state police. Messages seeking comment were sent to attorneys for the officers.
 
fingercuffs said:
in your opinion? Must have been pretty horrific for the guy, right?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/randy-cox-paralyzed-5-new-haven-officers-charged-police-van-injury/

5 Connecticut police officers charged after Black man left paralyzed following ride in police van

Five Connecticut police officers were charged with misdemeanors Monday over their treatment of a Black man after he was paralyzed from the chest down in the back of a police van.

Randy Cox, 36, was being driven to a New Haven police station June 19 for processing on a weapons charge when the driver braked hard, apparently to avoid a collision, causing Cox to fly headfirst into the wall of the van, police said. The incident was caught on video.

As Cox pleaded for help, saying he couldn't move, some of the officers mocked him and accused him of being drunk and faking his injuries. Then, the officers dragged him by his feet from the van and placed him in a holding cell prior to his eventual transfer to a hospital.

"It made me sick to my stomach, to treat somebody like that," Cox's sister, Latoya Boomer, told CBS News.

The five New Haven police officers were charged with second-degree reckless endangerment and cruelty to persons. The officers were identified as Officer Oscar Diaz, Officer Ronald Pressley, Officer Jocelyn Lavandier, Officer Luis Rivera and Sgt. Betsy Segui.

All have been on administrative leave since last summer.

New Haven's police chief, speaking to reporters Monday along with the city's mayor, said it was important for the department to be transparent and accountable.

"You can make mistakes, but you can't treat people poorly, period. You cannot treat people the way Mr. Cox was treated," said Police Chief Karl Jacobson.

The officers turned themselves in at a state police barracks Monday. Each was processed, posted a $25,000 bond and are due back in court Dec. 8, according to a news release from state police. Messages seeking comment were sent to attorneys for the officers.
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Vile scumbags the lot of them.
I do wonder though, why do the media only cover police brutality when inflicted on black folk?
 
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