Movies What character in a movie could have been great, but the actor they cast didn’t fit the role?

[Tone C]

Park in sonnnnnnnnnn

We're going to hell, right ?

 

[BisexualMMA]

I wouldn't call a partnership to be taken under his wing but even still Waltz looks way older than Denzel at the time plus with all of the make up ECT they would use

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Angela Basset could have played Kerri Washingtons character if you need an older woman, but considering the time Kerri Washington would still have been a fine choice. You could even change the story from husband wife to father daughter and it wouldn't hurt the story at all.

I honestly don't think Jamie would be an issue with me if Tarantino would have wrapped things up once Leo and Waltz die.

Almost everything after Leo and Waltz die feels like an interminable hour long denouement.

But I wouldn't really call Django and Waltz a partnership. Regardless of how they may have divided any money it was an apprenticeship.

 

[Vergilius]

The fact that Schwarzenegger + Verhoeven resulted in such an over the top bombastic action satire a la Robocop and Demolition Man on steroids was one reason I was somewhat open to the idea of the remake with Colin Farrell. The potential for a different version that doesn't compete in the same space as Arnold's did exist and an age appropriate Harrison Ford would have been a decent candidate for the lead role in that alternate version.

As it is I will take the Arnold movie we have in the hand versus whatever might have been instead because the odds of the alternative actually turning out better are quite long.

Yeah, the thing with movies that contain big plot twists is that it's super hard for an alternate version to pack the same punch as the original. Once the cat is out of the bag, you'll never affect the audience in the same way.

I sometimes dream of an alternate timeline where Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott didn't hate each other and made a trilogy of Phillip K. Dick sci-fi movies to stand alongside Harrison's Indiana Jones, Star Wars and Jack Ryan trilogies.

It would go:
Blade Runner (1982)
Total Recall (1990)
Minority Report (2002)

The movies aren't about the same characters (or even the same world), but would be linked thematically and visually instead as explorations of human consciousness, memory, reality and dystopian futures.

It's not that I don't like the versions of Minority Report and Total Recall that we actually got. I would just have loved to see what Ridley and Harrison could have done with the same material, conceived as parts of a coherent trilogy.

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Hes like the human version of sand.

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

Dom Cobb could've been a great character with somebody more interesting than Dicaprio playing him

 

[Bacco]

Ironically lot of ones i'm about to say are actors that i even liked in other roles

Like Keanu a lot, but he was bad Johnatan Harker.
Also while is imho one of best actors ever Gary Oldman was weak af as "young" Dracula, but i suspect Coppola's vision was the problem.
Book Dracula when young would give an impression of cruel power hidden by manners/elegance, Oldman have none of that and i doubt Coppola cared

Nolan Batmans have lot of things that i hated, but lmao at Tom Hardy midget Bane

Crap writing played big role, but The Witcher took the most damage from netflix shitcasting

Han Solo movie should have been made using this guy

 

[BisexualMMA]

Ironically lot of ones i'm about to say are actors that i even liked in other roles

Like Keanu a lot, but he was bad Johnatan Harker.
Also while is imho one of best actors ever Gary Oldman was weak af as "young" Dracula, but i suspect Coppola's vision was the problem.
Book Dracula when young would give an impression of cruel power hidden by manners/elegance, Oldman have none of that and i doubt Coppola cared

Nolan Batmans have lot of things that i hated, but lmao at Tom Hardy midget Bane

Crap writing played big role, but The Witcher took the most damage from netflix shitcasting

Han Solo movie should have been made using this guy

I actually liked Oldman as Vlad the living and I really liked Tom Hardy as Bane. I didn't think I would but his performance was imposing and funny. He looked short in a scene or two but that's pretty forgivable.

Is that Anthony Ingruber next to Harrison? The guy looks like him for sure but I would generally always want to go with the best acting. That said, the guy they went with for Solo didn't look like Harrison and also didn't really hit it out of the park performance-wise either. Not a lot of people could play Han Solo right though. I think back in the day Sam Elliott and Michael Douglas might have been the only two other than Harrison who could have pulled it off right.

 

[AFanNotAFighter]

Thank you. Can't believe it took so long for this .

I heard the Amazon Prime series about Reacher was pretty good and well cast.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Personally replacing Tom Holland wouldn't have made a difference in my opinion. Uncharted was such a terrible movie and bound to fail regardless of the main actor

 

[Bacco]

I actually liked Oldman as Vlad the living

Thing is Dracula is supposed to have huge intimidation factor
Like even a group of men who ignore what he is, facing him should still feel uncomfortable, because something deep down in their brain should tell them he is danger

I could not find 1% of that in Oldman's Dracula when young/appearing young... that's a big flaw to me and does'nt help Coppola's Dracula is for sure in my personal top5 fav movies

Is that Anthony Ingruber next to Harrison? The guy looks like him for sure but I would generally always want to go with the best acting. That said, the guy they went with for Solo didn't look like Harrison and also didn't really hit it out of the park performance-wise either. Not a lot of people could play Han Solo right though.

For what's worth he already played a younger Ford in a movie, he was'nt bad

 

[BisexualMMA]

Thing is Dracula is supposed to have huge intimidation factor
Like even a group of men who ignore what he is, facing him should still feel uncomfortable, because something deep down in their brain should tell them he is danger

I could not find 1% of that in Oldman's Dracula when young/appearing young... that's a big flaw to me and does'nt help Coppola's Dracula is for sure in my personal top5 fav movies

Yeah I'll give you that Oldman's young Vlad didn't seem like a terrifying intimidating tyrant. Oldman and I guess Coppola really played up his sentiment and romantic side as what kept him alive all those years and laid the groundwork to become focused on Winona later. I wonder if they could have built up the first without sacrificing some of the second.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

yeah I didn’t really see it as ironic- it might have been- but I tend to think if that’s what they were going for, Roth would not have bulked up, which he clearly did.

I don’t think Roth is really bad in that movie, particularly when he and “Dominic Decocco” take part in the funniest scene in the film. But I get the point for sure that they could have had someone better cast to play The Bear Jew. I get that part of that moniker is the myth transcending the man, but I think it would have been more fitting to have some more physically monstrous individual for that part. Roth is one of those guys as you said, is certainly not small (perhaps by sherdog standards) but I think you needed someone of the physical stature of like Affleck, a big f’n dude who is going to make that “Teddy Williams” scene all the more intense.

Strangely, I’d never heard the Sandler thing before. Would have been interesting.

Wow. I must be the only one on earth to find bear jew cool.i have to watch again.

 

[Tone C]

I heard the Amazon Prime series about Reacher was pretty good and well cast.

Yea, I watched the first one. Decent as long as you suspend reality a little bit.

 

[BisexualMMA]

It's not that I don't like the versions of Minority Report and Total Recall that we actually got. I would just have loved to see what Ridley and Harrison could have done with the same material, conceived as parts of a coherent trilogy.

I liked Minority Report but nowhere near as much as most other people it seems. I think a version made around 1980 with Harrison and the inspired Ridley Scott we had around then would have probably been more my thing.

If Soldier had been made a little more in the tone and style of Blade Runner it could have really been something. Kurt Russell came for that role loaded for bear and was ready to make a great movie. It was still fun and had a couple really good scenes but it could have been an all time great.

 

[ssBaldy]

Yeah, the thing with movies that contain big plot twists is that it's super hard for an alternate version to pack the same punch as the original. Once the cat is out of the bag, you'll never affect the audience in the same way.

I sometimes dream of an alternate timeline where Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott didn't hate each other and made a trilogy of Phillip K. Dick sci-fi movies to stand alongside Harrison's Indiana Jones, Star Wars and Jack Ryan trilogies.

It would go:
Blade Runner (1982)
Total Recall (1990)
Minority Report (2002)

The movies aren't about the same characters (or even the same world), but would be linked thematically and visually instead as explorations of human consciousness, memory, reality and dystopian futures.

It's not that I don't like the versions of Minority Report and Total Recall that we actually got. I would just have loved to see what Ridley and Harrison could have done with the same material, conceived as parts of a coherent trilogy.

I don't really like Ford in Blade Runner. Especially since he plays along goat-tier performance by Rutger Hauer.
Ford always plays Ford and I personally find him to be at his best as Indiana Jones with other roles noticeably lagging behind. Yes, Han Solo too, since original Star Wars writing and dialogue is meh at best.

 

[Bacco]

Yeah I'll give you that Oldman's young Vlad didn't seem like a terrifying intimidating tyrant. Oldman and I guess Coppola really played up his sentiment and romantic side as what kept him alive all those years and laid the groundwork to become focused on Winona later. I wonder if they could have built up the first without sacrificing some of the second.

I think they could have done it, but not with Oldman (and i like Oldman a lot)... i think he was the right choice for the idea Coppola had, but i just disagree with that idea

I believe Viggo would have delivered a ridicolous good young-Dracula, as he did very similar role as Lucifer in The Prophecy

and i bet would have pulled great eastern accent too

 

[BluntForceTrama]

I'd say Tom Holland as Nathan Drake in the Uncharted film.

He just doesn't fit the part.

Nathan Fillion should have got the role.

He gets a pass in my book for knocking Peter Parker out of the f'n park tho

Hes my all time favorite in fact ill start a thread on it

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Eli Roth as The Bear Jew.

Holy sh t rhats random AF lol

 

[BisexualMMA]

I think they could have done it, but not with Oldman (and i like Oldman a lot)... i think he was the right choice for the idea Coppola had, but i just disagree with that idea

I believe Viggo would have delivered a ridicolous good young-Dracula, as he did very similar role as Lucifer in The Prophecy

and i bet would have pulled great eastern accent too

Leave a light on, Thomas.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

The guy who plays Bruce Banner in the Avengers movies seems like a giant pussy. They should have had anyone but him play the Hulk.

Are you talking about Infinity War where Hulk actually was a pussy and that had to the lamest story line EVER? Who the F would be ok with seeing fat out of shape Thor too for an entire movie?? F those two directors in the eyeballs