Opinion What are 'Radical Left' Beliefs

[fingercuffs]

Social media/internet gaming seemingly just got someone murdered but still our 1A rights.
Abortion, depends on the circumstance. Women should not have to go through a pregnancy to the point of near death if the foetus will die as soon as it leaves the womb. Bleeding out in Texas on a gurney and doctors being threatened with prison for favouring what's going to be a dead not even child over a woman who actually wanted to have children and will be left infertile is catastrophic.

 

[Gutter Chris]

From my understanding the 2A initially was meant specifically FOR registered Militiamen, that's why that part is first. Plenty of early townships and settlements had laws against gun carrying, and gun use. I can show you 2 former conservative SCOTUS justices who both said the same thing before they died, on video. Gun carrying had a specific utility, if it wasn't occupational, it wasnt necessarily lawful. The idea that there would be a general widespread armed citizenry would have horrified the Framers as they had to quash rebellions already. This notion of arming the population to fight against it's own Government was absurd. Shay's Rebellion and the other ones that sprung up at the time had to raid armories.

The problem with your 2 big things is not the politicians, it's the culture. You have bootstraps ideology mixed with "solve all your problems with a gun" ideology. There are heavily armed Nations with universal healthcare, they dont think like we do. And what's worse is that if you bring up those Countries here, people will say they can have both because they have less immigration, less minorities.

I don't have a bootstraps mentality. I agree with Bernie and aoc about a lot of that stuff. I'm not actually a republican. I just wont tolerate my gun rights being under attack every 4 years anymore and I'm stuck in a 2 party system . Like I said if aoc said vote for me and I'll repeal the nfa and pass a national Healthcare law and were going to try to establish some kinda ubi or something I'd be on board instantly.

I'd be very happy with a country that was culturally sorta right wing and economically progressive though you gotta work with me a bit I'm struggling to phrase that just right and I'm hoping you get what I mean or perhaps can help me find the right way to phrase that so it is more clear.

I'm also not pissed about paying a shit ton of taxes however it irks me a bit that I am not on the receiving end of any of it

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I was watching scenes from Thunderheart last night. Kind of a reflection on Val Kilmer and Graham Greene. Now that I'm older the overall message really speaks out. The character of Jimmy would be referred to as a "radical leftist" now:



Jimmy was trying to rat out illegal land procurement for mineral rights.

And just listen to this radical commie bullsh*t Val Kilmer spews here:

- Totaly forgot about that movie. And Kilmer is my mancrush, my favorite actor ever!

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

In Australia I'm probably centre right, in the US I'd probably be centre left i reckon, I'm probably not a great judge on "radical left". For one I'm pro choice, this might be considered radical left by many Conservatives.

 

[Seano]

• Abortion should be largely legal (Up to 15 weeks lets say)

• I'm not really anti abortion but I'm more at 8 weeks for the limit.

• Social Security and Medicare are valuable and necessary safety nets that must be maintained.

Don't disagree here either, however there are too many hands in the cookie jar. You can't ignore the cost to sustain it.

• The highest tax brackets are too low. Households over $5m and the largest companies should pay more

• I think the tax brackets are fine, I just think the rich should actually have to pay it. Eliminate the loopholes.
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• Gay people should be allowed to marry

• Never had a big issue with this either, I just agreed the idea of civil unions made more sense.

• There should be term limits for Senators and HOR Reps

  Agree

• We should have a National Health Service (NHS)

• I'd need to know more.

• Social Media content must be reigned in a lot. It's a big problem & a big part of our polarization.

• I agree in theory but the problem is, who decides how its gets reigned in? Who decides whats extreme?

• Instead of deporting, we should make legal immigration fast, easy and cheap. Immigrants add value.

• We should deport anyone here illegally. Secure the border. THEN streamline the immigration system.

• The tax code is far to large and complicated at the expense of the poor and benefit of the rich

• Probably true. Can't disagree.

• The worst food and drink choices should be heavily taxed to defray the medical costs they drive.

• I'm not sure I agree in punishing people on vices that we promote in this country.

 

[Seano]

That post came out a mess, hope its readable

 

[Rygu]

- Soft on crime, especially if the criminal is not white
- Believing in gender ideology, believing that people can identify as this and that and expecting everyone to go with it, thinking biological males can be women and vice versa
- Believing Islam is somehow more tolerant than Christianity currently
- Believing anyone from any country should be able to move to America no matter what
- Victim hierarchy
- Communism/Marxism
- Supporting Palestine when Palestinians are very much anti-LGBT
- Hating cops but calling them when they need them
- Calling everyone nazis who don't agree word for word with what they believe
- Consider speech they hate as hate speech
- Think all black people should be treated as victims, and acting like they know what is best for black people even over what black people think is best for black people
- Want all guns banned
- Think obesity is beautiful and healthy
- Cannot comprehend supply and demand
- Think going to the gym is toxic
- Believe abortions are empowering
- Claim to be all about peace except when their opinions are disagreed with
- Believe there is a phobia for everything a person doesn't support or agree with

Those are just off the top of my head that took me less than 10 minutes to type.

 

[philcrow]

The idea of making it easier for people to legally immigrate rather than deporting them (which is what the OP said) stems from the idea that they are already productive and law abiding tax payers and consumers. Also, all citizens by definition "deserve" benefits. That argument makes no sense. I'd argue it's way more radical to send in troops to round up the citizens sleeping in the streets that you're worried about, than to streamline immigration for people that we want to have living here. The topic is what is "radical", not what you agree or disagree with.

Finally, yes, in a time when only white people were considered worthy (as we had a massive slave population at the time) the laws made it super easy for them to become citizens. Have a high moral standard, live here for 2 years, and take a pledge, that's it. Are you saying it is "radical" to think non-white people might also be able to meet those criteria?

No I'm not. You said the common media repeated lie of this a nation designed to welcome anyone who wanted to live here. It was not.

White oppressed people fought their white rulers in a revolution and won. They created the US as a majority white nation and wanted it to remain as such. Those are facts.

Yes slavery was always a thing just like it was in the colonies when white slaves were brought here to clear the land and start to build the infrastructure. Oh wait, indentured servitude. I forgot how the media loves to play the semantics game to divide people and prop up others to promote their monopoly on oppression.

Super easy. Land owner, free, and of good standing for 2 years is super easy? Well then apply your super easy concept to the immigrants of today.

Zero immigration. Legal or illegal until our own people are taken care of. It's radical to take on other people's problems when you aren't even close to solving your own as a nation.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

If Trump runs again in 2028 against AOC would you vote for him?

- Americans would be electing a fossil. Trump is so old, that i must put him in my Sherassic thead!

 

[philcrow]

How you think Nations survive is now how they survive. Most Countries with an "us only" mentality are right now experiencing birthrate crises. The naturalization law you speak of was more about maintaining a heirarchy, not racial purity. The whites were importing Africans and Asians in droves. There was also labor immigration from South of the Border even then. The idea that the US was meant to be this utopian ethno-State is misguided. The capitalist aristocracy always knew there would be racial diversity, they just wanted to protect their wealth and status by creating a legal framework where only they would have Civil rights.

Well it was what? 20 yrs ago or so this climate crisis was pushed of "you guys are having too many kids. Overpopulation is a serious problem." Along with kids are too much responsibility angle and YOLO and other think-tank propaganda to encourage people not to have children. And now it's "You guys didn't have enough kids! We need to import people.". Makes it seems planned from the start.

I understand the slavery angle and how awful it is. But sad to say, these slaves weren't viewed as people as much as they were viewed as property. So no consideration was given their way. I'm sure you know this. Aristocracy always has and continues to hold a view of the working class as peons and disposable humans.

Anyway, I'm not saying it was utopia, but I do believe they intended to keep it a majority white nation while understanding some slaves would buy their freedom and stay as workers and citizens. But some people suggesting an open door policy for any and all immigrants upon foundation is completely false.

 

[nostradumbass]

The thread would of course be a much better poll question for lefties to answer from a list of enacted or proposed positions and opinions.

-Profit is theft

-It should be impossible for anyone to have a net worth over $1 billion

-abortions should be taxpayer funded and available for any reason after 15 weeks.

-people should be able to vote without showing ID.

-children should be taught in school that boys can become girls snd vice versa.

-illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare and social benefits.

-knowingly giving somebody AIDS should be decriminalized

-Racial minorities are victims in society, and we should reverse engineer policies, standards and enforcement to meet an outcome based on race.

-police should not arrest shoplifters

 

[sickc0d3r]

No I'm not. You said the common media repeated lie of this a nation designed to welcome anyone who wanted to live here. It was not.

White oppressed people fought their white rulers in a revolution and won. They created the US as a majority white nation and wanted it to remain as such. Those are facts.

Yes slavery was always a thing just like it was in the colonies when white slaves were brought here to clear the land and start to build the infrastructure. Oh wait, indentured servitude. I forgot how the media loves to play the semantics game to divide people and prop up others to promote their monopoly on oppression.

Super easy. Land owner, free, and of good standing for 2 years is super easy? Well then apply your super easy concept to the immigrants of today.

Zero immigration. Legal or illegal until our own people are taken care of. It's radical to take on other people's problems when you aren't even close to solving your own as a nation.

Good lord.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Good lord.

That guy's basically a "moderate" in the current GOP.

 

[fingercuffs]

Well it was what? 20 yrs ago or so this climate crisis was pushed of "you guys are having too many kids. Overpopulation is a serious problem." Along with kids are too much responsibility angle and YOLO and other think-tank propaganda to encourage people not to have children. And now it's "You guys didn't have enough kids! We need to import people.". Makes it seems planned from the start.

I understand the slavery angle and how awful it is. But sad to say, these slaves weren't viewed as people as much as they were viewed as property. So no consideration was given their way. I'm sure you know this. Aristocracy always has and continues to hold a view of the working class as peons and disposable humans.

Anyway, I'm not saying it was utopia, but I do believe they intended to keep it a majority white nation while understanding some slaves would buy their freedom and stay as workers and citizens. But some people suggesting an open door policy for any and all immigrants upon foundation is completely false.

What is your heritage?

 

[fingercuffs]

The thread would of course be a much better poll question for lefties to answer from a list of enacted or proposed positions and opinions.

-Profit is theft

-It should be impossible for anyone to have a net worth over $1 billion

-abortions should be taxpayer funded and available for any reason after 15 weeks.

-people should be able to vote without showing ID.

-children should be taught in school that boys can become girls snd vice versa.

-illegal immigrants should receive free healthcare and social benefits.

-knowingly giving somebody AIDS should be decriminalized

-Racial minorities are victims in society, and we should reverse engineer policies, standards and enforcement to meet an outcome based on race.

-police should not arrest shoplifters

Probably the only post of yours I've read with the slightest glimmer of sarcasm humour. Bravo.

 

[philcrow]

What is your heritage?

Irish

 

[Area809]

I think you will find a lot, if not the large majority, on the left (at least the left by American standards) don't want open borders in the way the right likes to think they do, IE letting anyone and everyone in no questions asked. I think it's more that people want a not impossible way for people to come in the country and to not vilify and demonize those that try to come in like the right does.

Also, who gives a shit about people that want to transition. I swear I hear more about transgender from the right than anywhere else. I couldn't give two shits if someone wants to live as a man or a woman, it has zero affect on my life nor does it have an affect on the people that vilify them 24/7. They are simply easy targets to rally the base around on. It's such a tiny portion of the population yet it dominates political talking points.

My parents are staunchly against trans people. My parents have also never met a trans person in their lives lol. Somehow it’s a big deal for them.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

Abortion should be legal up to the day of delivery.

Illegals should receive free housing and an ATM card with a monthly stipend.

Illegals should recieve free health care.

Taxing the wealthy is the best way to eliminate poverty.

Justice is a transient concept dependent largely on race, sexual orientation, and national origin.



...I have more...

You've basically described the UK.

 

[filthybliss]

how do you feel about the reparations the japanese received post-internment camps and the reparations jews got post-holocaust

How about reparations for the millions in the Congo slaughtered by King Leopold, Native Americans, African Americans (who were brought over as slaves, their generational labor accumulating millions of dead capital for helping build this country), Assyrians in Turkey/Iraq, Uyghurs in China, etc. ? The list can go on forever. We should focus on lifting the floor for everyone.

 

[Texan6533]

I think most conservatives agree with legal immigration having a more streamline, but safe process. Might help curtail the need for mass illegal immigration.