Opinion What are 'Radical Left' Beliefs

[Sinister]

It’s actually just ambiguous in the constitution. It was done that way on purpose because the founding fathers themselves were split on the issue.

Gun control was big both in early townships and settlements, as well as the Wild West. When you see a movie with a wagon train of settlers. They were mostly unarmed except for perhaps a few guys they hired for security. If they could afford that. Law enforcement almost always immediately banned the carrying of firearms in town limits. The alleged prevalence of guns is a bit of Historical romanticizarion. We have this mental image of a gun in every home and that just wasnt the case.

 

[Striderxdj]

And the left doesn't do the EXACT SAME SHIT?

Both sides do that shit literally daily. They take 8 second out of context clips and mischaracterize what they're saying, etc.

Bro wake up and look in the mirror.

There are a few posters that are on the right here that definitely dont fall into the norm. Even among conservative figures there is a big difference between someone like Kasich, Kinzinger or Michael Steele and the typical maga mouthpieces.

Pretty much all the maga posters and politicians talk the exact same, make the same points, use the same tactics, and the only difference is they are different people so there are subtle differences that creep into their style. IE: some are slightly less insufferable than others.

 

[cooks1]

Based on these alone, you're not a radical.

But you didn't put the most radical left things up there. Maybe that's because you aren't radical and so don't believe them? Here are ten:

* Violence is a white European invention.
* Men contribute nothing good to the world.
* Men are responsible for everything that is bad in the world.
* Private property should not exist.
* Accusations of sexual assault should always result in convictions regardless of evidence.
* Law enforcement is harmful and should be abolished.
* Everything necessary for a good and comfortable life should be free and work should be optional.
* Conservative minorities are either brainwashed or grifters or stupid or evil and their minority experience doesn't count.
* Speech they disagree with is violence.
* Physical violence against conservatives is justified.

These are off of the top of my head. There are more.

If you have a pet issue or two here that kind of resonates with you in a "hear me out" sort of way, I wouldn't likely classify you as radical left, but if you're getting up into the three or four (or more) range, you're probably getting into radical territory.

I don't believe any of those things and neither do the vast majority of Democrats.

 

[jeremyemilio]

I don't believe any of those things and neither do the vast majority of Democrats.

That's because you and the vast majority democrats aren't radical. Congratulations?

The vast majority of people in general aren't radical. It sucks that our politics are often driven by the radical wings of each party.

 

[Sinister]

I don't believe any of those things and neither do the vast majority of Democrats.

Those things aren't radical leftist positions. They are radical positions, they're misrepresentations. As an example, leftists never think "everything should be free and work should be optional"...they suggest that people should be paid what they're worth based on their talent. You should be able to live to work, not forced to work to live. Leftists understand that when wealth is more ewually distributed, people DO choose to work as they tend to start businesses with excess income.

Most of the points you replied to are perpetuated by alarmists who have never once actually asked a leftist what they believe or why. At least not a smart one. But that's like judging anything by its biggest idiot.

 

[Khaosan]

You’re a radical leftist if you’re not a homophobic, misogynistic and racist sociopath.

 

[philcrow]

The climate argument is a red herring. A Country can be experiencing a birthrate crises and be overpopulated at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. The capitalists are the most alarmed about there not being enough births, they're worried they're going to lose their workforces. Hence the conservative ones pushing for abortion bans and the rolling back of child labor laws. Turns out the robots arent efficient enough yet and they still NEED human labor to survive until they are

I agree with the second paragraph, but what aim saying is this Country was never PURELY white. Hell the white populations didnt even all get along, they never do. The law you cited was just about maintenance of heirarchy.

Your assessment is more accurate about the Confederacy, that's what THEY wanted. I always tell people if they want to understand what they're seeing now, what Project 2025 is, they need to look up what the Confederacy wanted to do to the Americas had they won the Civil War. Theres a reason this also isnt taught in schools, we are meant to think they were just declaring War emotionally because they didnt want to give up slavery and if they won, well they would have just continued slavery and all would have been as it was before the Civil War. That's not the case, they fully intended to seize Governmental power and essentially turn the US into a "Christian" caliphate with an emphasis on their perception of heirarchy. White Christian men who owned land could vote, no one else. Black people arent full humans and thus, dont deserve rights. No minorities have the same rights as white Christian males, and women certainly do not. As for Central America their intent was for them to be ruled by wealthy European-descended plantation owners, whose crop rights were Governed by our Federal Government. They intended to re-gather our Military might and essentially take over. Or at the very least install friendly dictators.

All this in a distinct effort to be an Empirical competitor to England.

Now compare that to what you're seeing now. Distinct removal of indigenous people to South of the border. Open oppression of specifically black voting districts (I've seen these people in their own "educational" videos) make cases that black people and women should have never been given the right to vote and the relevant amendments should be repealed. Curtis Yarvin (Theil, Musk, and others are in his cult) pushes people currently in power to turn the US into corporate fiefdoms. And the tech Broligarchs' chosen guy, JD Vance, currently holds the 2nd highest office in the Country. These men openly dislike democracy, you can find videos of Thiel and Yarvin saying so openly. And theyve allied with the Christian Nationalists because they all agree on what KINDS of people should be in charge, unquestionably.

Plenty of workforce here with zero immigration. But the corps rather have cheap labor than fair labor, which this immigration brings. Why have a pesky American who wants $30/hr. when a 3rd worlder will be happy to do it for a less and will gladly accept a lower standard of living than an American since that's what they're used to.

No country is ever purely anything. All races have history of conflicts with their own. But as we see today, diversity leads to more problems since you don't have a nation anymore of people with common cultures, customs, and values and they clash frequently because we are all not the same. And that's not suggesting better or worse, it's just saying we are different.

Even amongst our discussion here, you're gonna apply your racial lens to the issues and I'm going to apply mine. Neither of us are wrong, and it's natural. But it's also why this causes issues because what's the happy medium here? You accept my point of view, or I accept yours, and either way, one of us will not be as happy as the other.

I agree with the corporate fiefdoms, but you're confusing Christian Nationalism with Judeo-Christian Nationalism / Zionist Christians. Big difference here as the groups hate each other. Look up Theil getting questioned on the Gaza genocide, and you'll see who he serves. It's not Christian Nationalists. And if you think Musk is in the same boat, he puts on a show, but his platform issues strikes and warnings for criticism of anything Jewish unless it's an approved media mouthpiece. Just the next controlled opposition for when people finally realize Trump is full of shit, but at this point with everything he's done so far, they're gonna follow this asshole into this country's grave.

 

[Starman]

For all the leftists here, why don't you answer the question. What are radical left beliefs?

Is shooting someone in the neck you disagree with politically radical?
Is thinking men can get pregnant radical?
Is a grown man in a dress sharing a bathroom with an 8-year-old girl radical?
Is fighting for books that contain and promote (and illustrate) gay blowjobs and gay butt sex to be allowed in elementary school libraries radical?
Is physically or chemically castrating a child radical?
Is government demanding social media ban and censor anyone who questions rigged elections or harmful vaccines radical?

 

[AmonTobin]

You’re a radical leftist if you’re not a homophobic, misogynistic and racist sociopath.

Last time I checked, even moderates comfortably supported this and it was only abortion that seemed to trip some of them up.

It certainly seems like the more religious and conservative the stance, the more “radical” any remotely progressive idea becomes to them, unfortunately.

I think we find ourselves in a trouble when human rights and equal rights are no longer viewed as a moderate position.

 

[Ruprecht]

The US probably moves the whole spectrum to the right, but I usually think of the radical left as those that promote:
The abolition of private property.
Murder and terrorism in defence of the environment.
Abolition of the nuclear family as patriarchal oppression.
Introduction of extreme levels of progressive inheritance tax.
A guaranteed basic income for everyone at or above the poverty line.
The various forms of left-wing anarchism.

 

[badascan]

Men competing against women in sport isn't even barely a thing so why does it matter... You forgot to add that one...

*Edit: they just want to get married

 

[Seano]

Men competing against women in sport isn't even barely a thing so why does it matter... You forgot to add that one...

*Edit: they just want to get married

In fact you could almost make "OMG why do you care" its own category.

 

[Striderxdj]

For all the leftists here, why don't you answer the question. What are radical left beliefs?

Is shooting someone in the neck you disagree with politically radical?
Is thinking men can get pregnant radical?
Is a grown man in a dress sharing a bathroom with an 8-year-old girl radical?
Is fighting for books that contain and promote (and illustrate) gay blowjobs and gay butt sex to be allowed in elementary school libraries radical?
Is physically or chemically castrating a child radical?
Is government demanding social media ban and censor anyone who questions rigged elections or harmful vaccines radical?

- Shooting another human being for any reason aside from imminent danger to yourself, loved ones, military, law enforcement or attempting to stop an active shooter situation is a pretty radical action.

- men cannot get pregnant. The chances of me running into a woman that identifies as a man and is pregnant are probably much higher than the average person, and it is still pretty much 0.

- I spent almost 3 months in the Philippines for work this year and have probably met and/or worked with more Trans people than the posters with criplling fear and disgust of trans people on this forum combined.

You know what Trans people do in bathrooms? They go to the bathroom. I saw ones that made real effort to pass and ones that made little effort from both sides use whatever bathroom they wanted in my time working there, nobody gives a *hit.

- I dont think graphical depictions of anything sexual belongs in any class/classroom/library except in some sanitized form specifically for a health/sex education class, around the early teens.

- Yes, chemically changing children to any permanent degree is pretty radical, unless there is some specific medical necessity for it. Physical castration for no reason is obviously radical.

- I dont think government should intervene into the free speech of private entities unless there is a real possibility of great harm done by said entity not taking action, and it should be a request with "receipts" as to why they want said information pulled.

I respectfully answered all of your questions. Mind answering just one?

Do you think a president using the powers of the government to threaten licensure of private businesses to get comedians who are on the opposing political side fired for saying jokes (bad or otherwise) sets a dangerous precedent, and is also radical?

 

[Starman]

- Shooting another human being for any reason aside from imminent danger to yourself, loved ones, military, law enforcement or attempting to stop an active shooter situation is a pretty radical action.

- men cannot get pregnant. The chances of me running into a woman that identifies as a man and is pregnant are probably much higher than the average person, and it is still pretty much 0.

- I spent almost 3 months in the Philippines for work this year and have probably met and/or worked with more Trans people than the posters with criplling fear and disgust of trans people on this forum combined.

You know what Trans people do in bathrooms? They go to the bathroom. I saw ones that made real effort to pass and ones that made little effort from both sides use whatever bathroom they wanted in my time working there, nobody gives a *hit.

- I dont think graphical depictions of anything sexual belongs in any class/classroom/library except in some sanitized form specifically for a health/sex education class, around the early teens.

- Yes, chemically changing children to any permanent degree is pretty radical, unless there is some specific medical necessity for it. Physical castration for no reason is obviously radical.

- I dont think government should intervene into the free speech of private entities unless there is a real possibility of great harm done by said entity not taking action, and it should be a request with "receipts" as to why they want said information pulled.

I respectfully answered all of your questions. Mind answering just one?

Do you think a president using the powers of the government to threaten licensure of private businesses to get comedians who are on the opposing political side fired for saying jokes (bad or otherwise) sets a dangerous precedent, and is also radical?

Yes, but that didn't happen. I answered your question directly, even though you didn't answer mine. Are any of those things I mentioned radical left beliefs?

 

[Striderxdj]

Yes, but that didn't happen. I answered your question directly, even though you didn't answer mine. Are any of those things I mentioned radical left beliefs?

It absolutely did happen, and until you acknowledge that reality I dont think there is a point in engaging further.

“It is true that, under statute, they are required to be in the public interest. What he is saying is that Jimmy Kimmel was lying. That’s true, he was lying. And his lying to the American people is not in the public interest and so he threatens, explicitly, we’re going to cancel ABC’s license. We’re going to take them off the air so ABC cannot broadcast anymore,” Cruz said, referencing FCC Chair Brendan Carr.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Those are all social democratic principles representing the status quo of countries like Germany, Nordic Countries, or Albania. Markets still exist and managed by patterns of supply/demand. There is just a greater emphasis in elevating the floor for the living standards by crowning universal healthcare coverage and progressive taxations systems.

Radical Leftism, I'd generally classify as Maoism, Juche, Castroism or whatever the Soviet Union was. The economy is predominately planned, there is no freedom of speech, democracy, and trail to operate private businesses. It functions like a capitalist country with a "Vanguard Party" or deformed dictatorship instead of oligarchs controling the means of production and generally what is best for everyone. Historically, it has never transitioned into a format where the workers or common man control the means of production. There are exceptions like the SDF or Zapatistas but they have not displayed results on macro-scale.

I could smell everything you’re talking about in the big coastal US cities during the summer of 2020.

 

[MMAisGod]

OP stuff is mostly "regular left" or something i don't know what you call that but it is pretty standard. When I think of far i think of stuff like this.

-Trans athletes allowed to dominate and continue to break records in women's sports and this is perfectly fine (probably the most illogical and low hanging fruit that somehow still hangs)
-Someone supporting abortion rights to extend to 6, 7, or even 8 months because women body etc
-Guns shouldn't be allowed to be owned by citizens outside of rare exceptions, or to a leaser version serious people pushing to ban all ARs because no one should own them.
-During Covid supporting people's children being taken from them or supporting exiling people from supermarkets and work if they didn't get a Covid shot. Supporting walking around with a Covid passport
-Supporting and pushing for the people arrested during the Floyd riots to be released with minimal to no punishment regardless of reason of arrest


Those are the kind of things I think of as wild or radical that I have heard both in real life and a ton online over the years. Most of the stuff in the OP is pretty normal for ideology.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I think you will find a lot, if not the large majority, on the left (at least the left by American standards) don't want open borders in the way the right likes to think they do, IE letting anyone and everyone in no questions asked. I think it's more that people want a not impossible way for people to come in the country and to not vilify and demonize those that try to come in like the right does.

Also, who gives a shit about people that want to transition. I swear I hear more about transgender from the right than anywhere else. I couldn't give two shits if someone wants to live as a man or a woman, it has zero affect on my life nor does it have an affect on the people that vilify them 24/7. They are simply easy targets to rally the base around on. It's such a tiny portion of the population yet it dominates political talking points.

I think it’s also true that a lot of people on the right are OK with some background checks for gun owners and Medicare for all.

Differences are amplified by the usual suspects

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Those things aren't radical leftist positions. They are radical positions, they're misrepresentations. As an example, leftists never think "everything should be free and work should be optional"...they suggest that people should be paid what they're worth based on their talent. You should be able to live to work, not forced to work to live. Leftists understand that when wealth is more ewually distributed, people DO choose to work as they tend to start businesses with excess income.

Most of the points you replied to are perpetuated by alarmists who have never once actually asked a leftist what they believe or why. At least not a smart one. But that's like judging anything by its biggest idiot.

I also just choose to work because I like doing things that people recognize are necessary.

I saw a guy fix my friends computer just because he knew how to do it, I have seen that with peoples cars too. I fixed my cousins heater downstairs one Christmas and I got props for it and it felt great

People love to be useful, to get good at something… and to get a bit of positive attention for being useful and good at something. It feels amazing.

 

[sanguinius]

If you can look at the dwindling American jobs and the American workers being replaced by immigrants and blindly say that’s a good thing, you are a far left drone.