Opinion What are 'Radical Left' Beliefs

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Not liking Donald Trump for any reason.

I've been conservative ever since I was of voting age and have never voted Democrat in my life, but apparently I'm an extreme liberal now because I think Trump is a fat moron.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

That's just it. You can import them to work a job say you would have worked for 15 for 10 just to keep it simple and they will live 12 dudes in a house or apartment.

gotta be honest i have no idea what you're saying here. completely incoherent.

If we don't have enough people companies should be paying a wage that fills the jobs not importing cheap competition.

we have enough people. you're ignoring the glaring fact that businesses do not want to pay anyone for their labor and would never pay a cent if they weren't required to, by law.

 

[Gutter Chris]

gotta be honest i have no idea what you're saying here. completely incoherent.

we have enough people. you're ignoring the glaring fact that businesses do not want to pay anyone for their labor and would never pay a cent if they weren't required to, by law.

Well they have to pay someone if they can't import cheap labor. And it's coherent. Cheap labor undercuts American labor and drives down standard of living for working class people. You just don't have an answer or want to address that.

 

[avenue94]

I don't agree. I think a lot of times it's bad for working class people to flood their towns with people who will do their jobs for the minimalist of the minimum.

There's not much actual evidence of this whenever economists study the subject and put it through peer review.

Where are these regions you think have high native unemployment due to immigrants?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Well they have to pay someone if they can't import cheap labor. And it's coherent.

i had to read it a few times, but i eventually got it. gotta pop some punctuation in there man.

Cheap labor undercuts American labor and drives down standard of living for working class people. You just don't have an answer or want to address that.

other americans with similar skills in your area do the same thing. laborers are constantly competing for the lowest wage, no matter who or where they are.

 

[USA!USA!]

None of those are radical whatsoever. None of those beliefs are transformational to our country's way of life.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Tremendously telling that almost none of these things are tied to policy. They're general feelings, beliefs, worldviews, whatever.

The right can't debate on policy grounds (TS's list) so they rely on feels and identity.

Healthcare for all and taxing the super rich? Fuck that, these people "think America is evil racist colonizer" so I'll vote for the other guys.

I can talk about policy just fine my dude. But I was talking about what makes someone seem radical vs normal to me. If you seem like you hate the country I don't want you to be in charge of it .

I don't vote for the democrats because of immigration guns and a very strong dislike of the weekend at bernies games and the way kamala became the nominee.

I think Healthcare should be national and I do think that taxes on the extremely wealthy should be raised.

If the democrats want to come back with some tweaks to the platform I'd consider voting for them again

But again we weren't talking about what you are trying to bash me on. He didn't ask hey right wing guys what positions of the left do you agree with. He didn't say would you vote for this.


What left wing positions do you consider radical?

 

[Gutter Chris]

i had to read it a few times, but i eventually got it. gotta pop some punctuation in there man.

other americans with similar skills in your area do the same thing. laborers are constantly competing for the lowest wage, no matter who or where they are.

Of course they are that's why we shouldn't make it easier for companies to do that.

Forgive me if I phrase this wrong. But if you can't get people to work for what you are offering than that isnt the free markert price of that labor. But in our rigged game the capital class can sham there way around that.

You know a left wing position that I do have that might be considered radical ? I think we need another labor revolution.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I can talk about policy just fine my dude. But I was talking about what makes someone seem radical vs normal to me. If you seem like you hate the country I don't want you to be in charge of it .

I don't vote for the democrats because of immigration guns and a very strong dislike of the weekend at bernies games and the way kamala became the nominee.

I think Healthcare should be national and I do think that taxes on the extremely wealthy should be raised.

If the democrats want to come back with some tweaks to the platform I'd consider voting for them again

But again we weren't talking about what you are trying to bash me on. He didn't ask hey right wing guys what positions of the left do you agree with. He didn't say would you vote for this.


What left wing positions do you consider radical?

Do you mind me asking if you voted for Trump or third-party/protest vote?

 

[Sinister]

I dont agree with you on much but this is a pretty good list, I'd add gun confiscation/forced buyback.

(I also support 0 of these things)

It's also bullsh*t. No leftists support any of those things, either.

 

[Sinister]

Not liking Donald Trump for any reason.

I've been conservative ever since I was of voting age and have never voted Democrat in my life, but apparently I'm an extreme liberal now because I think Trump is a fat moron.

You're a full blown gay trans communist

 

[Gutter Chris]

Do you mind me asking if you voted for Trump or third-party/protest vote?

I voted for Trump. A great deal of the reason why is out of spite . But I'm seriously not voting for the democrats any more unless they stop talking about magazine and rifle bans. I get if the second isn't that important to you or if you don't care. But it is to me and I'm not voting for someone who's views on it are that far off from my own

You've known me for years dude. You know I'm not a republican its just that I'm not a Democrat any more either.

I grinded and put my time in and worked my ass off to get out of the ghetto and to have a few nice things and one of the things I always really wanted was a nice rifle. Nobody is going to take that from me willingly and I will not vote for a anyone who says they want to. It isn't just that I belive in self defense. That's also my trophy for all that went into finally getting there. It means the world to me. It's deeply personal .

 

[Striderxdj]

It's also bullsh*t. No leftists support any of those things, either.

I think there are definitely some crazy fringe lefties (namely the ones found from someone like Libsoftiktok) and spread them to say the entire left believe some/all of those things.

But its most definitely not a majority or mainstream by any means.

 

[Sinister]

I voted for Trump. A great deal of the reason why is out of spite . But I'm seriously not voting for the democrats any more unless they stop talking about magazine and rifle bans. I get if the second isn't that important to you or if you don't care. But it is to me and I'm not voting for someone who's views on it are that far off from my own

You've known me for years dude. You know I'm not a republican its just that I'm not a Democrat any more either.

I grinded and put my time in and worked my ass off to get out of the ghetto and to have a few nice things and one of the things I always really wanted was a nice rifle. Nobody is going to take that from me willingly and I will not vote for a anyone who says they want to. It isn't just that I belive in self defense. That's also my trophy for all that went into finally getting there. It means the world to me. It's deeply personal .

Sure, but the guy you voted for is already talking about infringing upon the 2A because gay/trans. I can understand that that might not effect you, but that also draws upon the friend/enemy distinction, and IMO in any legit societyeither we believe in the rights or we dont. I've made arguments on how I don't think the 2A Historicaly was meant for private gun ownership, however I also recognize that's not the climate we're in rignt now.

That being said, right now, right this second the right was already talking about disarming trans Americans, and now they're very likely going to start talking about the same for gays as an entire group because of the actions of one man, who was raised in a hyper-gun enthusiastic family of rignt wingers.

Just saying, sometimes listening to the people you think espouse your views ends up bringing about the very thing you didnt want to happen, if at the very least for other law-abiding people.

 

[Azure]

And also the official line of the Trump regime.

So thread asks about Radical Leftist.. I answer.. You jump in with Trump.

Moderator derailing a thread.. I am out of this one.. Have a nice day.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I voted for Trump.

 

[Sinister]

I think there are definitely some crazy fringe lefties (namely the ones found from someone like Libsoftiktok) and spread them to say the entire left believe some/all of those things.

But its most definitely not a majority or mainstream by any means.

Some of those "leftist views" are being purposely misrepresented no matter how many times theyve been explained. Leftists dont want all police abolished, or even kept from policing. Leftists dont want criminals NOT subject to enforcement of law.

These are strawman positions meant to sound extreme and I'd say anyone who espouses them are just ill-informed regardless of what they claim to be.

 

[sickc0d3r]

(I also support 0 of these things)

Very few people do.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Sure, but the guy you voted for is already talking about infringing upon the 2A because gay/trans. I can understand that that might not effect you, but that also draws upon the friend/enemy distinction, and IMO in any legit societyeither we believe in the rights or we dont. I've made arguments on how I don't think the 2A Historicaly was meant for private gun ownership, however I also recognize that's not the climate we're in rignt now.

That being said, right now, right this second the right was already talking about disarming trans Americans, and now they're very likely going to start talking about the same for gays as an entire group because of the actions of one man, who was raised in a hyper-gun enthusiastic family of rignt wingers.

Just saying, sometimes listening to the people you think espouse your views ends up bringing about the very thing you didnt want to happen, if at the very least for other law-abiding people.

I get it. While I'm not exactly a fan of trans I think that's some bullshit and if they do that they open the door for democrats to decide if other groups shouldn't have them .

I don't agree with you about private gun ownership.

I think it says in case you assholes need to militia up you should keep guns in your home.

I will be happy to see the end of trumps presidency , he's not my boy I just wanted kamala slightly less.

What I really would like is for one of these 2 parties to stop sucking and make me actually want to vote for them but I'm not holding my breath.

Repeal the nfa
National Healthcare.

Those are my 2 big ones and I feel like I'm pretty flexible on most other things. But those are the 2 I actually want.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I can talk about policy just fine my dude. But I was talking about what makes someone seem radical vs normal to me. If you seem like you hate the country I don't want you to be in charge of it .

Like I said, feelings and vibes.

You can talk policy just fine but you base your decision mostly on feelings, image, etc. This is common everywhere but much more on the right and it's a shame.

This is Dubya winning because he was a guy you could have a beer with unlike that square and stiff Kerry.