What about Conor McGregor fighting Max Holloway at 155?

El Fernas said:
They went the distance back then, even if still a loppy striker, thats a much better one than back then, in a 5 round fight i could see Max even submitting Conor in the later rounds.
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You're "seeing" that because of Conor's performances against 6 ft 190 lb Nate Diaz and a boxing match with Mayweather.
 
Venom said:
I'm not saying he's the same fighter. But his striking is not as sophisticated as Conor's. And hes smaller and less dangerous than Conor's previous 3 opponents.
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Lol that's not true at all, Max is 5'11, bud. He's bigger than Conor and has finished his last 3 fights. He's got an iron chin and has proven he can take Conor's power. Even if Conor takes the first two rounds, Max is going to be in his face for 5 rounds and eventually break him.
 
Easy win for Max in 2019. UFC would never book that.

Dana and Colon wants none of that.
 
Healthy modern day Max would light up Conor and make him quit via strikes or sub.
 
blaseblah said:
Lol that's not true at all, Max is 5'11, bud. He's bigger than Conor and has finished his last 3 fights. He's got an iron chin and has proven he can take Conor's power. Even if Conor takes the first two rounds, Max is going to be in his face for 5 rounds and eventually break him.
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You're missing a few things in your ideal world.
Taking Conor's power punches is not the same as walking through him. That was apparent in the first fight, when he would stand toe to toe with other opponents but he was always on his backfoot when it came to Conor, even if he wasn't rocked enough to drop. Max is 5'11 yes, but his reach is shorter, he has less power, and much less precision.

I've seen the fight, and I've seen Max grow his game over the years. He still throws loops easily dodged or eaten by Conor. Normally Conor is content with throwing punches and seeing people stagger, fall, or even just turn away. When they don't, and when they are strong wrestlers is when he has trouble.

Max is only a bit heavier with inferior striking and gameplan. If they ever meet again, put all your chips on Conor.
 
GSP_37 said:
Healthy modern day Max would light up Conor and make him quit via strikes or sub.
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The dream of Sherdog. lol....Max won't be the one to do that...no featherweight will.
 
Oooxente said:
If you think a full size Max Hollywood is NOT a hard fight for Connie...you crazy!!!

A broken foot.green,depleted,training by himself Max survived Connie.

Connie best chance to get a W is fight Nate again,because The Diaz never change their Strategy ,and get an UD/MD or maybe Aldo,praying his trolling ways gets inside his head again.

IDT he have enough power/gas to put Tony to sleep before he gets raped,Khabob already raped him,Lee wrestlefook him and Justin is too big to be bullied in two rounds.

Old man Andy uses Connie as a cash machine.
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Hence me saying it would be a very different fight meaning it would be a hard fight for Conor BUT his other options are much riskier to me. Diaz 3 ? MEh if you even get the guy to fight maybe its possible he could squeak out another decision.
 
VIPERdude said:
Read all the way through there is more to it than just the title.
Max has already stated he wants to move up, whether Ortega beats him or not the cut is getting very hard for him, his words.

Maybe it would be wise to see the outcome of that Max/Ortega fight before they make any definitive plans for Conor since Max may move up regardless win or lose and its known Max wants that loss back from McGregor.

WHY MAX?

LETS FACE THE FACTS HERE. Conor needs a win. Conor McGregor vs Max Holloway 2 would be a very different fight today IMO. UFC knows Conor is coming off of 2 losses. Yes 1 in boxing against Floyd but still its two consecutive contests he was stopped in...Conors stock has NOT dropped YET in my opinion but a 3rd loss will be bad I feel. You can only trash talk so much until EVERYONE starts to see you're bark is becoming bigger than your bite.

McGregor needs a WIN and I think Conor vs Diaz 3 right now is risky,
Conor vs Anderson Silva is bouncing around now....I think that fight just seems unrealistic to me.
Conor moving up to fight Woodley, no, not off of a loss.
Lastly, Conor in a rematch with Khabib AND vs Tony Ferg is dangerous as well if not the most dangerous
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Max would add nothing to him.
He would have beaten a FW who just moved up (thus unranked).
Plus, as you said, Max improved A LOT since their fight.

IMHO DIaz is the only fight for him.
It is a big name with a big flaw in style that Conor already showed he can beat.

A loss to anyone will be disastrous to Conor, but where Max is an unknown, he knows exactly what Diaz brings to the table.
 
Venom said:
laughable.

Holloway still throws those sloppy punches.
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Then who? Who is an attractive fight for Conor where his risk of losing wont be so high that would still sell and people would wanna see. Dustin? Al Iquinta? Kevin Lee? They all can beat that Conor we saw fight Khabib.
Al can take a shot and keep coming bad matchup
Kevin Lee? Risky IMO Take down another sub loss
Dustin rematch ? hes next in line whoConor said he would fight the next in line.
I dont see an easy match for Conor for the UFC to give him a win which he needs or the next loss his stock will drop.
He guaranteed a finish on Floyd ...failed
Guaranteed Khabibs destruction....failed
Nate Diaz was a W for Conor but in that rematch I am not the only one who thought Diaz did enough to get a draw...many thought Conor even lost.
 
Shaddows said:
Max would add nothing to him.
He would have beaten a FW who just moved up (thus unranked).
Plus, as you said, Max improved A LOT since their fight.

IMHO DIaz is the only fight for him.
It is a big name with a big flaw in style that Conor already showed he can beat.

A loss to anyone will be disastrous to Conor, but where Max is an unknown, he knows exactly what Diaz brings to the table.
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I have to disagree, I personally think Max is the most improved fighter in the UFC.
Conor hasnt improved at all. He has a left hand. Everything else he does looks the same as it did when he fought Mendes.
Conors performances havent impressed me since Aldo who didnt fight like Aldo for obvious reasons.
Conor lost to Nate in the first fight, in my opinion I thought the rematch was a draw many gave Diaz that win. Ultimately doesnt matter its a W for Conor. Eddie Alvarez has had wars and shop worn hes leaving the UFC because he cant compete with the top 5 and he lost to one in Dustin. Conor fights Floyd, makes promises he didnt come through with. IDT anyone expected him to. Then he comes back and is demolished by Khabib.

SO yeah I think MAX has many new tools since their first fight added to his game and the blue print to beat Conor is cut and dry. The guys gas tank hits EMPTY faster than any fighter Ive seen out of HW division. It just drops off a ledge after a round of constant pressure which Max is great at TODAY. Max may not win, but Conor looked like CRAP against Khabib, he was fighting to not lose rather than win.

In the end Conor has enough money to not care about training hard, motivation is hard when you got a 100 mil in the bank (or more) How much does he train from what I understand he is on the road almost 6 out of 7 days a week promoting his whisky.
 
Venom said:
Holloway's pea head will not be a problem for Conor to target without getting tired.

The problem comes from hard wrestlers like Khabib or taller and heavier guys like Nate Diaz.

Holloway is only slightly bigger than McG with a shorter reach and far inferior striking. Far inferior.
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Holloway has had 12 straight wins since Conor and has vastly changed his style. Before Conor was an unknown at the time his weaknesses werent known. The right game plan to beat Conor is there. Its well known now from his cardio to his left hand anything other than that what else does he do thats given him success? Conor isnt so mystic anymore. Hes rich, and selling whiskey. Training for a fight was all he had to do before. Games changed on his side thats why losses dont hurt him that bad hes too rich to care.

Max wins the rematch. I think he hits Conor with body shots uses constant pressure, Max NOW is GREAT at closing the distance rather than being tentative before. When they fought before Max didnt smother a guy like he does now forcing them to move and make quick careless decisions and without Conor being able to dictate the range his left isnt gonna be there.

Thats my opinion and you have a right to yours, Conor could also very well win as well.
 
It would be a great fight but Holloway has Ortega to fight first and that at this point is a far more interesting fight.

Conor actually needs to fight more and win a few fucking fights before anyone should take him seriously.
 
VIPERdude said:
Then who? Who is an attractive fight for Conor where his risk of losing wont be so high that would still sell and people would wanna see. Dustin? Al Iquinta? Kevin Lee? They all can beat that Conor we saw fight Khabib.
Al can take a shot and keep coming bad matchup
Kevin Lee? Risky IMO Take down another sub loss
Dustin rematch ? hes next in line whoConor said he would fight the next in line.
I dont see an easy match for Conor for the UFC to give him a win which he needs or the next loss his stock will drop.
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I'm not in the mood nor do I have the time to give a proper reply to this.
 
Max is a much harder fighter than Diaz.
 
Venom said:
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I'm not in the mood nor do I have the time to give a proper reply to this.
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Because you have no answer unless youre suggesting Michael Jordan fights Conor, McGregor MAY have a win there.

That Conor who fought Khabib though maybe I take that back
 
VIPERdude said:
Because you have no answer unless youre suggesting Michael Jordan fights Conor, McGregor MAY have a win there.

That Conor who fought Khabib though maybe I take that back
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Hopelessly delusional.
 
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