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West Bank resistance dies amid fears of becoming Israel’s ‘next Gaza’
Once known as the ‘martyrs’ capital’ of Palestine, Jenin is now patrolled by Israeli soldiers as weary residents seek quiet lifeWilliam Christou and Sufian Taha in Jenin
Shadi Dabaya’s body bears the scars of the Israeli occupation. The 54-year-old proudly stuck out his jaw to show the chunk of his cheek torn away by Israeli fire and traced the zigzag scar on his arm, the pink, raised flesh marking the bullet’s path through his body.
“I got these in the second intifada,” said Dabaya, beaming. He pulled up a video of himself a year earlier confronting an Israeli personnel carrier in Jenin camp wielding only a flip-flop.
As he spoke, an Israeli military truck rumbled by. This time he only stared as it passed, not daring to approach.
Israeli soldiers have occupied Jenin camp since January, expelling all 14,000 residents from their homes and erecting earthen berms, raised barriers, to cut it off from the rest of the city. Though the military operation – dubbed “Iron Wall” – has successfully crushed Palestinian militants there, the soldiers remain.
Jenin was once known as the “martyrs’ capital” of Palestine. The Jenin battalion, a militant group unique for its alliance of fighters from different Palestinian factions, fiercely resisted Israeli incursions. It was said that Jenin and Gaza were the two places Israel could never conquer.
Gaza is now in ruins and the martyrs’ capital is silent. Israeli soldiers patrol Jenin’s streets freely and conduct near-daily raids. The resistance fighters who gave Jenin its reputation are now only a memory, their faces fading from the posters lining the streets under the unrelenting sun.
“We are tired,” Dabaya said. “Resistance was a good idea, but look what happened to Gaza. All of the fighters are gone and we just want to live our lives in peace.” He has given up trying to check on his home in Jenin camp after soldiers caught and beat him badly last month.
To the residents of the West Bank, the war in Gaza was a warning. As they watched bombs destroy 88% of the Gaza Strip over the last two years, they realised there was no limit to what Israel would do to crush Palestinian militants.
Now the war in Gaza is drawing down, Palestinians fear Israel will turn its focus on the West Bank.
Eager to avoid incurring the same wrath as Gaza, voices of resistance have kept silent, even as the number of daily settler attacks and restrictions rises sharply. Wednesday’s preliminary approval in the Knesset of bills applying Israeli law to the occupied West Bank – a process halted on Thursday after Trump administration figures voiced strong disapproval – barely registered among Palestinians. Only two years ago it would have provoked mass protests.
In Jenin, the boundaries of the military occupation are slowly expanding; soldiers pay daily visits to residents who live near the camp and bulldozers tear up their roads.
“When we used to hear shooting, we used to think there was a fight in the camp. Now we know it was the Israelis – not one bullet comes from the Palestinians. There’s no one left,” said Hiba Jarar as she cleaned her house after it was searched by an Israeli soldier a few days earlier.
Jarar lives in Jabria, a wealthy neighbourhood overlooking the Jenin camp. From her living room window she can see troops moving to and from their makeshift barracks, a repurposed apartment building.
She is one of the last people in the neighbourhood. One by one, residents have been raided by the military and told to vacate. The row of luxury villas lies deserted, the torn-up road stopping at a mound of dirt heaped high by Israeli bulldozers.
“The Israelis know they have nothing to fear any more. They raid houses with just a single soldier now. The soldier that searched my house was respectful, I was lucky. But who knows what will happen next time,” said Jarar.
As resistance has been quashed, daily humiliations have increased. Videos of soldiers rounding up dozens of young men and forcing them to march, heads down, hands behind their backs, in mass arrests regularly circulate on social media.
Mustafa Sheta, the general manager of the Freedom Theatre arts centre in Jenin camp, was arrested at his home in December 2023 by Israeli soldiers, alongside hundreds of other Palestinians. He was held for 15 months in administrative detention without charge – a common practice used by Israel to detain Palestinians indefinitely without trial.
He described prison guards filming him and other inmates on their phones as they were strip-searched, and guards making detainees lie on their stomachs while they used their backs as springboards, jumping back and forth on their prone bodies.
When Sheta was released from prison in March, he found Jenin camp occupied and the spirit of the city’s residents broken.
“I was shocked because Jenin is the capital of resistance. Where are the fighters? What’s happened to the fighters? It felt like we lost the war, like we are losing this battle,” Sheta said.
“People’s priorities, they’ve changed. In the beginning, we talk about revolution, about right of return, about political issues. But now they talk about something else – they ask what they can do in this new kind of life.”
Questions of resistance have faded with the fighters who once claimed to have the answers. Now, residents are more occupied with the struggle of daily life as poverty and Israeli restrictions make eking out an existence ever harder.
Yet, even if the fighters’ guns have fallen silent, a few of Jenin’s residents push for quieter forms of defiance to assert their existence.
“They don’t deal with us even as animals, they consider us as nothing. So you need to again open that important discussion about how we can be resilient and stay in our homeland,” Sheta said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ar-they-may-be-israels-next-target-after-gaza
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Reasonable? Understand? That moron?
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LMAO @ take some insult... Are we sure this clown graduated elementary school?
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This thread is about the West Bank. The West Bank isn't Gaza. If you can't understand that you have zero credibility talking here
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There are many many videos of settlers destroying olive trees, stealing olive harvest, restricting access to cultures with aid of the army or even straight up killing Palestinian farmers. Many NGOs wrote on the subject in the last decades.
West Bank farmers gather precious olives as harvest season brings new settler attacks
West Bank farmers gather precious olives as harvest season brings new settler attacks
Since the first week of October, there have been at least 158 attacks across the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
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There are many many videos of settlers destroying olive trees, stealing olive harvest, restricting access to cultures with aid of the army or even straight up killing Palestinian farmers. Many NGOs wrote on the subject in the last decades.
West Bank farmers gather precious olives as harvest season brings new settler attacks
West Bank farmers gather precious olives as harvest season brings new settler attacks
Since the first week of October, there have been at least 158 attacks across the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
Can you show me a video that includes confrontation a dialogue between individuals involved? Sorry without people talking it's just a video.
At least I could translate it.
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What do you mean just videos ?I showed you videos and articles of Palestinian farmers being harassed, steamed from and even killed. You can literally see israeli settlers destroying olive trees and attacking olive pickers with your own eyes here.
What is your intention here ? To say that israeli settlers do not loot Palestinian olive harvest ? When it has been proven to be so for decades now ? That would be ridiculous and show an extremely heavy pro-israeli bias.
Here are Israelis explaining it for you.
Another article about the attack on a Palestinian farm this summer. So it's not only the olive harvest that are targeted :
BBC witnesses Israeli settlers' attack on Palestinian farm in West Bank
A BBC team was interviewing a Palestinian farmer when masked men charged towards them.
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What do you mean just videos ?I showed you videos and articles of Palestinian farmers being harassed, steamed from and even killed. You can literally see israeli settlers destroying olive trees and attacking olive pickers with your own eyes here.
What is your intention here ? To say that israeli settlers do not loot Palestinian olive harvest ? When it has been proven to be so for decades now ? That would be ridiculous and show an extremely heavy pro-israeli bias.
Here are Israelis explaining it for you.
Another article about the attack on a Palestinian farm this summer. So it's not only the olive harvest that are targeted :
BBC witnesses Israeli settlers' attack on Palestinian farm in West Bank
A BBC team was interviewing a Palestinian farmer when masked men charged towards them.
Please don't show me BBC propaganda........ I'm not going to take you seriously when you post those idiots.
I've asked for a video with audio and considering the quality of those videos, what year is it these have been taken because it looks like 10 year old smart phones..... I'll take that back the quality looks worse....
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So you didn't answer, are you denying that israeli illegal settlers have harassed, looted, stole from palestinian olive tree farmers ?
But yeah I get the tone. Another Israeli propagandist. No one is taking you seriously. Played this game for too long to know how pointless it is with you.
Israeli settler terrorism is all in our head right ?
Jewish extremists boast of attacks against Palestinians in public WhatsApp channel
After graffiti reading ‘Greetings from Anshei Shlomeinu’ was daubed in West Bank village targeted by extremists, group lauds attacks on Palestinian civilians by ‘true soldiers’
Jewish extremists boast of attacks against Palestinians in public WhatsApp channel
After graffiti reading 'Greetings from Anshei Shlomeinu' was daubed in West Bank village targeted by extremists, group lauds attacks on Palestinian civilians by 'true soldiers'
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BBC are as biased as you get..... Are you disputing that, I wouldn't trust a single thing they say about anyone....... And I mean anyone........and neither should you!! Pick your news sources better...... Otherwise go sing to an echo chamber......
I asked for footage with audio and people showing grievance.......... ???
And taken on a bloody phone from the last 6 years, people in that region have modernish phones are you disputing that??
Fuck me even the UFO videos have gotten better over the years........
Instead I get you saying don't you believe me and this footage that looks how old or taken on a device from what year, why isn't the person taking it saying anything?? Why aren't they turning the camera on themselves???
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The videos are fine we see very well on it.
I gave you every source including article from the times of Israel journal. But you chose to ignore it.
We get it. Don't believe your eyes and ear when israelis commit evil. Israel can do no wrong. Settlers do not exist in the west bank. Smotrich is imaginary. The vote in the Knesset is an UFO too to quote you.
On ignore you go, like the other israeli propagandists that repeat hasbara. One last source before that but of course it's lying and biased and so on :
The olive tree is our resistance | Oxfam International
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This is how you behave when you're brainwashed into believing you're the most superior human on the planet. Behaviour justified as acceptable to a fabricated authority. Disgusting stuff.
Judaism is a repugnant religion with all manner of insanity and absurd custom. The low-IQ, fundamentalist retards from all three branches of Abrahamic religion still hold too much control over the state of mankind.
We can never get past these primitive games until the bullshit origin stories are laid to rest.
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The videos are fine we see very well on it.
I gave you every source including article from the times of Israel journal. But you chose to ignore it.
We get it. Don't believe your eyes and ear when israelis commit evil. Israel can do no wrong. Settlers do not exist in the west bank
Smotrich is imaginary. The vote in the Knesset is an UFO too to quote you.
On ignore you go, like the other israeli propagandists that repeat hasbara. One last source before that but of course it's lying and biased and so on :
The olive tree is our resistance | Oxfam International
www.oxfam.org
I love how this fucking idiot first asked for video footage, like that would never happen, and then it was another objection, then a different objection. Imagine being that much of a simp for the actions of another country's violent colonists, just because on some level you hate the people being affected by it.
Its a shame the Palestinians don't have some nifty historical word to describe all of this, that could act as a thought-terminating cliche here, I don't know, like, say, 'pogrom' or something. Some immediately-compelling, emotive phrase that could be mobilised to, like, immediately act as moral blackmail so nobody is allowed to question it, or it would constitute a Blood Libel against the Paletsinian people. It would be very convenient for their situation if they could do that.
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The videos are fine we see very well on it.
I gave you every source including article from the times of Israel journal. But you chose to ignore it.
We get it. Don't believe your eyes and ear when israelis commit evil. Israel can do no wrong. Settlers do not exist in the west bank. Smotrich is imaginary. The vote in the Knesset is an UFO too to quote you.
On ignore you go, like the other israeli propagandists that repeat hasbara. One last source before that but of course it's lying and biased and so on :
The olive tree is our resistance | Oxfam International
Okay, so no raw footage with audio of people arguing about who's doing what that looks like it wasn't shot on a phone from the stone ages and or over 10 years ago???
Just you throwing accusations at me and telling me what my opinion is........
And you want me to take you seriously???
You post Oxfam as a source ??
