Were you impressed by Manon’s performance???

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

I didn't even think Rose too small. I mean, too small and weak to get the tds, but outside of that, she was landing plenty on Manon on the feet and all with one hand to punch with.

I think Rose with two good hands would have beaten Manon pretty easily.

Truthfully I don't think it matters. Manon was her easiest possible style matchup and she still lost. She's not beating Santos or Blanchfield, probably not Valentina or Alexa either. She needs to go back down to 115 or retire.

At this point I'm almost checked out though

 

[sfer1]

Valentina is bulkier. You just watched it happen. I don't know who you think you're kidding.

Rose is too small

Rose's cage weight was 135 lbs today. Had she faced Valentina, Rose would have had 5 lbs on Val.

Fiorot is bigger than most girls in the division. That doesn't make Rose too small.

Not to mention that I find incredibly stupid that you're using the size disadvantage as an excuse, instead of talking about Rose having to fight with one hand. That affected her chances a lot more than Fiorot having 4 lbs on her.

 

[TrueBias]

I'm going to see her in less clothes in order to make my decision.

 

[HHJ]

I wasnt. She kept getting caught by the jab,and I dont know why she would stay on the outside. I felt like if she set up combos w the jab so SHE wouldnt keep eating it by throwin hooks w no setup, and kept at it she could plow through rose. She didnt use her physicality as much as she could have imo.

 

[Brom Bones]

Ish ish.

 

[dc007]

Yes, she looked god but she was fighting a girl who was way outsized.

 

[pankrat]

Truthfully I don't think it matters. Manon was her easiest possible style matchup and she still lost. She's not beating Santos or Blanchfield, probably not Valentina or Alexa either. She needs to go back down to 115 or retire.

At this point I'm almost checked out though

Rose is fairly young, in the top10 and making good money. Why would she retire?

The hand injury was more trouble than a few lbs. You need to get a grip

 

[sfer1]

They might both be around 135lbs, but val carries more functional muscle weight. Rose is carrying some fat and will admit it herself.

Valentina didn't even weigh 135 lbs inside the cage when she was fighting at bantamweight. She walks around at 132-133 lbs and weighs about 130 lbs inside the cage now that she's fighting at flyweight. If Rose had faced Valentina today, she would have outweighed her by 5 lbs. So, this narrative that Rose is too small is absurd. She's taller and heavier than Valentina.

 

[Small Town Andrew]

Yea and no. She beat Rose which isnt easy but she didnt really turn it on to get me excited to see her again. I am impressed she won

 

[sfer1]

I wasnt. She kept getting caught by the jab,and I dont know why she would stay on the outside. I felt like if she set up combos w the jab so SHE wouldnt keep eating it by throwin hooks w no setup, and kept at it she could plow through rose. She didnt use her physicality as much as she could have imo.

She kept throwing left hooks, because couldn't punch with her right hand. She broke a finger in the first round.

People don't pay attention to the fights they watch?

 

[xhaydenx]

Truthfully I don't think it matters. Manon was her easiest possible style matchup and she still lost. She's not beating Santos or Blanchfield, probably not Valentina or Alexa either. She needs to go back down to 115 or retire.

At this point I'm almost checked out though

I think she'd beat Grasso and Santos. She's still a better striker than them. Dunno about Erin lol. Feels like she'd dominate until the moment she slowed down and then get run over.

There were definitely easier matchups for Rose in the top 10, but they didn't want her fighting Murphy, Lee, Vivi, Chookagian, Maia, Ribas, or Barber, who I think Rose would beat. They just wanted Rose to be right in the mix for a title shot if she beat Manon.

I think she's probably better off staying at FLW and taking some of those lower ranked girls. The top part of SW is too dangerous for Rose.

If you're checked out, bro, get off this karate forum and have a rest.

 

[HHJ]

She kept throwing left hooks, because couldn't punch with her right hand. She broke a finger in the first round.

People don't pay attention to the fights they watch?

Fiorot broke a finger? People dont read the posts that others make?

 

[sfer1]

Fiorot broke a finger? People dont read the posts that others make?

Rose did. I thought you were talking about her. She was the one throwing left hooks with no setup, because she was fighting with one hand.

 

[LouDee16]

She beat a fighter many thought she wouldn’t. She was faster and hit harder.

You can’t say Rose is all that, unless you give Manon credit for beating her.

Yes, she won in a good fashion, imo. Very well fought, imo.

(No apostrophe needed in were).

Guess what though.. Rose and Shevchenko huggers going to shit on this. Being so obliviously ignorant, and arrogant that they will call Rose a shit fighter.

Gotta love Sherdog.

roae broke her finger and couldn’t throw a right hand 10 seconds into the fight. If that doesn’t happen.. I don’t know what the outcome would have been

 

[HHJ]

Rose did. I thought you were talking about her. She was the one throwing left hooks with no setup, because she was fighting with one hand.

I know,but I was saying alot of the times,esp in the first, Rose was countering Fiorot's wide hooks with the jab. I was sayin Fiorot could have tried to use the jab herself so that wouldnt keep happening.

 

[sfer1]

roae broke her finger and couldn’t throw a right hand 10 seconds into the fight. If that doesn’t happen.. I don’t know what the outcome would have been

I find incredibly stupid that people are talking about the outcome of the fight as if the injury didn't happen. Probably some of the same people that shat on Aljo's win over a one-armed TJ.

 

[fortheo]

Valentina didn't even weigh 135 lbs inside the cage when she was fighting at bantamweight. She walks around at 132-133 lbs and weighs about 130 lbs inside the cage now that she's fighting at flyweight. If Rose had faced Valentina today, she would have outweighed her by 5 lbs. So, this narrative that Rose is too small is absurd. She's taller and heavier than Valentina.

Show me the athletic commissions in cage weight of rose and Val. Rose said she was training all camp while weighing 135lbs. That doesnt mean that's what she weighed on fight night, and it still doesnt change the fact that val carries more muscle.

 

[Jinx_AA]

All her fights look the same … she’s a minute winner

very technical striker with underrated takedown defense and grappling

she’s never been a dangerous finisher - but shes always a step ahead

Wouldn’t expect anyone to love her - but no need to hate either - she’s good !

 

[Tapatio]

Thicc Rose was just too small. MANon is a 145er

 

[VenomCarnage]

Fiorot barely beat a smaller, disconnected fighter, who broke their finger on the right-hand in the first round.

I had Rose 29-28, and I had money on Manon.