Weili humiliating Suarez is what Dagi haters pretended Merab v Umar was

[Objectively Correct]

the only people who claim merab "dominated" are trolls, baiters and weirdly enough, indians in the instagram comment sections. Or people who have a very odd understanding of the word domination

 

[ultra321]

Nah, I wouldn’t say that. Rd 5 was super close and Merab closed the round strong and stole it. Rd 3 was also pretty close. Pointing to Umar’s corner isn’t “dunking”.

revisionist history right here folks... the judges got it right for a change... Umar was never in control in 3,4, or 5... 10/9 Merab all of them...

 

[moosaev]

Anyone that had Suarez as the favourite was an idiot. She has 3 fights since 2019 and her last win was against the ghost of Andrade in 2023.

What was shocking was Weli's ability to outwrestle her with the whizzer. My guess is all those rounds she supposedly did with guys in the training room, led to a false sense of her being the stronger fighter in wrestling exchanges. She ran into Weili who actually used proper strength and Suarez got out muscled and had no plan when she was on bottom.

Merab hung in the striking with Umar also. Umar usually catches people with his unorthodox kicks.
Merab was defensively sound, wore him down and had Umar basically shut down completely over the last rounds offensively.
Umar is younger, so has more chance to improve, but outside of catching Merab, he doesn't have much for him from the look of their fight.

Plus the immediate excuses makes me think that fight might cause some mental issues for him in the future. Weightcut, short camp and the hand excuses all coming out immediately isn't great. Then you have Merab with an actual visible leg injury, wanting to fight so much he tricks the commission by showing the same leg 2x.

I’m not sure how you can say Umar doesn’t have much for Merab in a rematch when Umar broke his hand early in the fight. The fight was very close, Umar with a healthy hand could very well win a rematch even if nothing else changes.

As for Weili, she’s just athletic as hell, it’s really tough to out grapple someone that has such a huge edge in athleticism even if you’re the better technical grappler. And yes, in hindsight Tatiana’s inactivity should have been a bigger red flag.

 

[maximus__]

Umar would have won a 3 rounder... just needs to up the cardio.

Umar cost himself the fight to win a close first couple rounds, whilst Merab built across 5 rounds.
Umar blew his load just to edge the first 2 rounds barely and only landed 7 more strikes. Merab hung with him in the striking before he even went to the wrestling.

Stats | UFC

 

[Tatra]

Still obsessing over Dagis (and Chechens) because you have no other fighters to cheer for? Cringe.

 

[moosaev]

revisionist history right here folks... the judges got it right for a change... Umar was never in control in 3,4, or 5... 10/9 Merab

Umar was in control for at least half of round 5 and was winning the round, anyone who says otherwise either can’t judge mma or they have an agenda. Pretty sure I know which camp you’re in.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

merab > murmagomedov

fathers plan

 

[maximus__]

I’m not sure how you can say Umar doesn’t have much for Merab in a rematch when Umar broke his hand early in the fight. The fight was very close, an Umar with a healthy hand could very well win it.

As for Weili, she’s just athletic as hell, it’s really tough to out grapple someone that has such a huge edge in athleticism even if you’re the better technical grappler. And yes, in hindsight Tatiana’s inactivity should have been a bigger red flag.

Because Umar isn't a guy that relies heavily on a big right hand. Merab went into the fight with barely any camp and an open wound on his shin. He had a pre fight injury, Umar did this before the camp or in the first round depending who you ask.

It's fighting people get hurt in fights.

Weili perfectly countered Suarez style of wrestling. It wasn't just athleticism. She specifically countered the clinch takedowns by using the whizzer to throw during those exchanges. It also allowed her to control Suarez trying to come up for singles and trapped her into chasing a half guard sweep. It wasn't just athleticism, that was an excellent read by her camp that the commentary team didn't pick up on. They kept wondering why she didn't dig for underhooks, but that wouldn't have worked aswell.

 

[xhaydenx]

I think people piled on umar because of the ducking narrative before the fight, no one really said his performance was shit, he did better than anyone else against merab. There were a few clowns saying he got dominated but that's to be expected from certain biased users

Other fighters have rocked Merab and Simon choked him out. They all did way better than Umar did lol.

 

[moosaev]

Because Umar isn't a guy that relies heavily on a big right hand. Merab went into the fight with barely any camp and an open wound on his shin. He had a pre fight injury, Umar did this before the camp or in the first round depending who you ask.

It's fighting people get hurt in fights.

Weili perfectly countered Suarez style of wrestling. It wasn't just athleticism. She specifically countered the clinch takedowns by using the whizzer to throw during those exchanges. It also allowed her to control Suarez trying to come up for singles and trapped her into chasing a half guard sweep. It wasn't just athleticism, that was an excellent read by her camp that the commentary team didn't pick up on. They kept wondering why she didn't dig for underhooks, but that wouldn't have worked aswell.

It’s pretty silly to suggest Umar doesn’t rely on his right hand when he’s primarily a striker. He needs ALL his limbs to fully implement his striking arsenal. Take away the right hand and not only does he lose a bunch of combinations and counter punching ability, but his other weapons become much more predictable. That doesn’t even take into account the physiological effects of a broken hand, it spikes your stress hormones and kills your cardio. Breaking a hand has cascading effects across the entire fight, it isn’t just isolated to the hand. That fight was so close that Umar not breaking his hand could’ve been enough to win him the fight.

 

[ultra321]

Umar was in control for at least half of round 5 and was winning the round, anyone who says otherwise either can’t judge mma or they have an agenda. Pretty sure I know which camp you’re in.

winning one and two... yeah those were his... round 5... gassed as fuck, clipped, taken down... Not looking competent anywhere the whole round.... smoke another one dude... after that shit talking he did he deserved that humiliation and the loss after a mostly shitty 5 rounds of lack luster effort...

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Other fighters have rocked Merab and Simon choked him out. They all did way better than Umar did lol.

simon loss was very controversial due to the submission being called after the fight ended. umar won 2 rounds and damaged merab's face, no one else did that. Omalley did no damage to merab at all

 

[TheBulge]

Moosy is one of the worst posters to ever Sherdog. All I ever see him post about is how some Dagi fighter is a victim of some kind of persecution on here. All about negativity, not even cheering or supporting a neckbeard fighter winning. It's all nothing but victimhood.

What's with the old school boxer avy anyway as a disguise? Just put the Jacuzzi picture as your av it would be a lot more fitting.

 

[deviake]

Suarez was the favorite and got humiliated. Take notes fellas, THAT is what a humiliation looks like. Not Merab eeking out a decision in the last 2 mins of a very close fight and clowning around to the crowd in a narrow victory.

Extremely apt comparison, well said.

If I didn't watch the Merab fight I would've thought it looked like this fight or Anderson/Chael 1 before the submission or BJ/GSP 2.

 

[TheBulge]

You are one of the saddest individuals on here lmao.

And this is another one. They might even be the same poster with the same shtick. Who cares anyway, not like any useful insight or funny banter has ever come out of these two.

 

[TheBulge]

Extremely apt comparison, well said.

If I didn't watch the Merab fight I would've thought it looked like this fight or Anderson/Chael 1 before the submission or BJ/GSP 2.

If you had any sort of emotional intelligence you'd understand that it's not really about how much he dominated fight wise but the back story. He beat the neckbeards at their own game, he beat them fearlessly after enduring months of claims he was ducking Umar out of fear, and all of the best moments of the fight happened to involve Merab humilaiting Umar in some way.

It was a bad loss psychologically, not physically. Look at OP how he's still reeling, wondering what his life purpose was even supposed to be after this fight.

 

[13Seconds]

It’s pretty silly to suggest Umar doesn’t rely on his right hand when he’s primarily a striker. He needs ALL his limbs to fully implement his striking arsenal. Take away the right hand and not only does he lose a bunch of combinations and counter punching ability, but his other weapons become much more predictable. That doesn’t even take into account the physiological effects of a broken hand, it spikes your stress hormones and kills your cardio. Breaking a hand has cascading effects across the entire fight, it isn’t just isolated to the hand. That fight was so close that Umar not breaking his hand could’ve been enough to win him the fight.

Merab was heavily injured himself. I guess it evens out.

 

[Khaosan]

I’ve gotten over women faster than it’s taking TS to get over this loss.

Cope and seethe, Merab bless.

 

[moosaev]

Merab was heavily injured himself. I guess it evens out.

Agreed, I’m only refuting his claim that there’s nothing Umar could’ve done to win that fight, or that somehow a rematch would end in the same way. It’s razor close, if Merab and Umar fought 100 times Merab might win 52 fights and Umar 48. Their last fight came down to a difference of maybe 2-3 strikes in rd 5 and it could’ve gone Umar’s way. Props to Merab he won fair and square, but there’s an attempt at revisionism to make it seem like Merab blew him out, he didn’t.

 

[moosaev]

winning one and two... yeah those were his... round 5... gassed as fuck, clipped, taken down... Not looking competent anywhere the whole round.... smoke another one dude... after that shit talking he did he deserved that humiliation and the loss after a mostly shitty 5 rounds of lack luster effort...

It was a humiliation only in your hating ass brain lol. Umar performed admirably and lost a very close fight.