Weight lifting

For anyone that is trying to be a good muay thai/kickboxer fighter would you recommend weightlifting like in a 5x5 program excisting of Squat, deadlift,bench press, Overhead press etc? Or will lifting huge weights get you slower. Since all top muay thai fighters hardly lift weights except for exercises like Pushups, dips, Chin ups, Pull ups, ab training. Or should i train with light weights for high reps?? I see that a 100 kg squat could get you big big legs. And i never see that in muay thai.

 

i dont know much about weights. I guess if you isolate each muscle and try and make them big and dont stretch, it will get you slower.

Go ask the strong people in strength and power.

 

That would be a better place to ask such questions?

 

yeah. sure theres a kickboxer or two somewhere in there.

 

And, now that your thread is here in Strength and Power, go read the FAQ.

 

Yeah sure man will do. Im asking if it would be bad for muay thai since i never saw anyone with huge chest huge arms huge shoulders or huge legs. So getting a 150+ Squat wouldnt be 2 great i geuss

 

But cmon, i dont take Muay Thai, but it seems the reason alot of them are lanky is because, they need to kick high and teep motherfuckers in the face. So i think its more a matter of having lanky powerful muscles, than big lifting tree trunk legs. Could be wrong though.

 

plenty of people with "big treetrunk legs" can do the splits... that has nothing to do with flexibility... maybe thais are just smaller people because I don't know any american thai boxers who are as small as you describe...

 

No ur right, thats my problem!

 

Did you ever saw fighters like andy souwer, albert kraus, Peter aerts, ernesto Hoost, Masato, Jerome le banner, Mirko crocop etc. Do heavy squats?

 

ive seen vids of crocop doing hack squats

 

Indeed I have...

 

You got a video of that? Proof ? etc. I know Crocop did bodyweight squats but i have never seen him doing heavy squats

 

I can't help but wonder why somebody just getting into lifting for muay thai would want to mimic the routines of elite, probably genetically gifted individuals that have YEARS of training seniority over them... I mean, imagine me trying to mimic an olympic calliber speed skater's routine starting tomorrow... I'd cripple myself, get terrible injuries, AND I'd be using a routine that would probably be less than Ideal for my personal development anyways...

Here are the facts:
- lifting heavy does not make you slow, quite the opposite is true
- compound movements are key to strength development
- plenty of kickboxers have big legs
- if something does not work for you, change it.
- fuck everyone else.

 

In short, shut up and train, and scrap what does not work.

 

Trust me... crocop did not get his legs doing BW squats... and I am not about to go search for videos of kickboxers squatting heavy just to please you... remember YOU came in here asking... so I answered, then you tell me to prove it? Why the hell would you even ask in the first place when you already have your mind made up? Listen to Urban's posts...

 

Look online for a workout that supports your goals and body type.....or cough up the 50 bucks to as a trainer what to do.

 

GREAT IDEA or just read the FAQ and the fighters logs here

 

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/josh-barnett-lifting-mma-769014/#post22465061


Read this - it from Josh Barnett on Lifting for MMA (from his Myspace page).

 

Why is it though it that so many fighters don't realize that the fat ends of the bar are for putting plates on?