Weidman never proved he's better than Silva.

Oris79 said:
Silva was past his prime in their first fight.
Silva lost the first fight due to showboating and not taking the fight seriously.
Silva lost the second fight due to a freak leg kick.

These three factors make Weidman's wins against Silva dubious at best.
I still contend that a focused, prime Silva circa 2010 destroys Weidman.

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Oris79
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Lmao the king of cope - as soon. As Silva started losing "he's past his prime"

The guy had a highlight reel on average fighters. As soon as someone half decent (weidman) came along his hands down chin out style was no more. He never fought anyone remotely technical in the striking department.

Remember he got dropped multiple times by chael, was lucky to beat Brunson.

The guys gets murdered vs whitakker and peirera. Even izzy with his fan boy charity playing with Anderson telling him to keep his hands up in the middle of the fight - that's how amatuer his style is in the midern era.

Oh and pissed hot multiple times. Let's not forget that.
 
Superzorro said:
There’s a promo video that the UFC released before the fight of fighters like GSP and Rashad Evans saying that Anderson Silva was getting old and that Weidman was a young prodigy that people were sleeping on.
Also, because they can’t be bothered to dig up random comments in multiple year old threads, that means you’re right?
Hindsight aside, if someone is 38 years old, is it really that crazy to suggest they might be past their physical prime? With any other fighter, you would agree. And in fact, I’d argue there’s a very small percentage of fighters (if any at all) who have been the best at that age.
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You sir are preaching to the choir to very low iq individuals Making buzzing noises from their moms basement covered in cheetos dust and donuts faT AF.

Anybody who didn't know Silva was past prime is stupid. Cartman level at Olympics.

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pankrat said:
I already addressed the overrated part. What else do you want me to tell you, dude

The other part of my post was a reply to the guy who called it "averaga", not to you, that's why I quoted the other guy.

You are not very bright, dude



Oh ok, Im talking with a conssumate retard.
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No you quoted me.

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Just keep making buzzing noises and trying to bite your ear.

What's it feel like to fail making the special Olympics? You give off school shooter vibes. Your welcome.
 
chimpoehurricane said:
No you quoted me.

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Just keep making buzzing noises and trying to bite your ear.

What's it feel like to fail making the special Olympics? You give off school shooter vibes. Your welcome.
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12 year old confirmed
 
Mack Yancy said:
I'll address who I damn well please, old man.

I'm responding to you repeating the false crap anout Silva showboating/not taking it seriously. He was.
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Why so hostile? There’s a difference between counterpunching and acting like a buffoon like Silva did when he felt he was in there with an inferior striker. Notice he didn’t act like this against Belfort or Henderson.
 
I'm the biggest Silva fan, even put him as #1 p4p Goat. That said it was a right combination of Weidman being a bad matchup (wrestling) + in his prime and Silva being older + proved everything/complacent + reflexes slowed and got caught with his head movement. Its a fair win. Probably the most money I've made betting in mma was on Weidman back to back. Chael took Silva to hell and Weidman was Chael with striking and younger.
 
Fedora Millionankles said:
You can’t be the better fighter if you can’t beat them head to head. You can have the better career, but the better fighter on that night always wins.
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I disagree. Is Uriah Hall better? Derek Brunson? I think if in your prime you beat people who are just as skilled or more skilled than the person you lost to (when you were old), there's an argument to be made for you being the better fighter. Also, if that fighter has gone on to lose to fighters with lesser skills than you, I think that should be examined as well. The only argument you could make is that Weidman has not been in his prime for 7-8 years. But with that, we have to also consider that he's just now (as of last year) reaching the age that Anderson was when Anderson lost to him (and he's been inactive for quite a few of those years). So if Chris Weidman can be past his prime in 2016-2017 at the age of 32, why is it so crazy to suggest that Anderson was past his prime at 38?
 
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Tweak896 said:
I'm the biggest Silva fan, even put him as #1 p4p Goat. That said it was a right combination of Weidman being a bad matchup (wrestling) + in his prime and Silva being older + proved everything/complacent + reflexes slowed and got caught with his head movement. Its a fair win. Probably the most money I've made betting in mma was on Weidman back to back. Chael took Silva to hell and Weidman was Chael with striking and younger.
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Okay, the debate here is whether or not in his prime Anderson could win. I don't think Chris Weidman is the best striker that Anderson Silva had faced. And I don't think he's the best wrestler that he faced, although this one I will admit could be argued.

I also predicted that Anderson would lose to Weidman. I remember thinking to myself as a teen after the Bonnar fight that Anderson's physique looked diminished and old compared to the Belfort fight or the first Sonnen, and he was actually getting hit a lot by Bonnar (something that a lot of people didn't recognize).
Weidman's wrestling never impressed me, but his grappling looked pretty insane at the time.
 
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As a huge Silva fan, I remember being concerned that Weidman would be a tough stylistic matchup since his debut against Sakara. It's tough to argue against 2-0 despite the fact that people will debate how much influence external factors had.

Ultimately, both had their own respectable championship tenures, with Silva's solidifying him as one of the very best to ever do it and Weidman deserving acknowledgment for stringing together title defenses over a few legends while remaining undefeated.
 
He prooved he was better than the version of Silva he fought head to head, obviously he didnt proove he was better overall as his career isnt nearly as good.
 
Because he wasn't? Don't get me wrong, Chris had a great career for as long as it lasted. Silva on the other hand is one of the G.O.A.T.S.

How do you even compare?
 
Superzorro said:
Okay, the debate here is whether or not in his prime Anderson could win. I don't think Chris Weidman is the best striker that Anderson Silva had faced. And I don't think he's the best wrestler that he faced, although this one I will admit could be argued.

I also predicted that Anderson would lose to Weidman. I remember thinking to myself as a teen after the Bonnar fight that Anderson's physique looked diminished and old compared to the Belfort fight or the first Sonnen, and he was actually getting hit a lot by Bonnar (something that a lot of people didn't recognize).
Weidman's wrestling never impressed me, but his grappling looked pretty insane at the time.
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Hard to say. In Silva's prime his BJJ was good enough to get a stand up and his reflexes and striking were damn good to catch you coming in. Ironically I think his TDD became better out of his prime as he got older and Weidman's takedowns/grappling were more modern to not really get subbed from bottom or tied up to a stand up. So it's kind of a different era comparison.

If Silva entered his prime the same time as Weidman in today's mma standards he'd win clearly, but his style would be less BJJ focused I think. Prime vs prime matchup taking both from that time it's either Silva catching Weidman standing or Weidman decision/tko by wrestlefuck Sonnen style.
 
Do people actually believe Silva was in his prime when he lost to Weidman? He fought people his age and then faced a young hungry guy who executed a game plan well. Is Weidman in his prime now? He is 39 and losing to Uriah Hall. Age beat Silva like most greats get beat.
 
bjjwar said:
There's a difference in breaking your leg while you're kicking someone and getting knocked out while you're mocking and toying with someone lol.Weidman's TD got stuffed round 2, he was gassed, sluggish, was just plodding forward missing punches while Silva was laughing at him looking like a slow gassed version of Forrest Griffin instead of capitalizing and paid the price tooking his taunting to another level. He deservedly got KO'ed for that sh**, but Weidman was one of the easiest fights he ever had, that's why he played so much.
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He broke his leg because Weidman checked it. Ray Longo trained Weidman to check kicks that way. He called that type of check “the destruction.”

If you don’t think getting your leg broken in half by your opponent is brutal, there is nothing else to say, except you’re just a butthurt racist.
 
Superzorro said:
I disagree. Is Uriah Hall better? Derek Brunson? I think if in your prime you beat people who are just as skilled or more skilled than the person you lost to (when you were old), there's an argument to be made for you being the better fighter. Also, if that fighter has gone on to lose to fighters with lesser skills than you, I think that should be examined as well. The only argument you could make is that Weidman has not been in his prime for 7-8 years. But with that, we have to also consider that he's just now (as of last year) reaching the age that Anderson was when Anderson lost to him (and he's been inactive for quite a few of those years). So if Chris Weidman can be past his prime in 2016-2017 at the age of 32, why is it so crazy to suggest that Anderson was past his prime at 38?
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Because people age differently for a variety of reasons. Look at Mike Tyson. You’ve got Tyson fanboys who claim he was out of his prime by 23.
 
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