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Jamie pull up Chris Weidman shirtless JACKED
Go down. Down. Down. There! Stop there, Jamie. Look at that. He's JAAAAACKEDDDDDD.
Jamie pull up Chris Weidman shirtless JACKED
Go down. Down. Down. There! Stop there, Jamie. Look at that. He's JAAAAACKEDDDDDD.
Vitor Wand Rampage Silva Palhares Franklin Bisping Shields Babalu Feijao Fedor Rua Machida Evans Belfort Rua DC Mousasi. Fighting that level of competition from 2007 - 2015 is more impressive then anything weidmans done.Nah, revisionist history. Machida was at his apex, even from a basic physique check that is so often used here. He was coming off the Mousasi win where he looked great and was billed as the most dangerous guy possible for Chris (a wrestling killer finally at his proper weight class). Their fight was a year before USADA, 2 years before his DHEA bust.
In terms of any champ facing killers... yeah you'd hope, but then again post a SPECIFIC 9-fight strength of schedule HARDER than what Chris had. Use any division/any time period in the whole sport. No one in this thread is posting an alternative.
Big Hendo fan and obviously his career-long strength of schedule was fucking insane (possibly GOAT for a career as a whole)... but which 9 consecutive fights tops Weidman's last 9?
I mean, he was fighting them all for the championship or #1 contender spot... Which means they got there. Apparently they were pretty good.how many of those guys were in their fighting prime when he fought them?
looks good on paper though
U Seriouz?Nah, revisionist history. Machida was at his apex, even from a basic physique check that is so often used here. He was coming off the Mousasi win where he looked great and was billed as the most dangerous guy possible for Chris (a wrestling killer finally at his proper weight class). Their fight was a year before USADA, 2 years before his DHEA bust.
In terms of any champ facing killers... yeah you'd hope, but then again post a SPECIFIC 9-fight strength of schedule HARDER than what Chris had. Use any division/any time period in the whole sport. No one in this thread is posting an alternative.
Big Hendo fan and obviously his career-long strength of schedule was fucking insane (possibly GOAT for a career as a whole)... but which 9 consecutive fights tops Weidman's last 9?
Weidman is the GOAT
Vitor Wand Rampage Silva Palhares Franklin Bisping Shields Babalu Feijao Fedor Rua Machida Evans Belfort Rua DC Mousasi. Fighting that level of competition from 2007 - 2015 is more impressive then anything weidmans done.
Guys, please reread the first sentence of the OP.U Seriouz?
Weidman = 8 fights in 5 yrs
On names purely (then obviously the prime aspect):
[2010-15] : 11 fights
Gegard Mousasi
Daniel Cormier
Maurício Rua
Vitor Belfort
Rashad Evans
Lyoto Machida
Maurício Rua
Fedor Emelianenko
Rafael Cavalcante
Renato Sobral
Jake Shields
[1998-2005]: 18 fights
Antônio Rogério Nogueira
Yuki Kondo
Kazuhiro Nakamura
Murilo Bustamante
Shungo Oyama
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Ricardo Arona
Murilo Rua
Akira Shoji
Renzo Gracie
Wanderlei Silva
Renato Sobral
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Gilbert Yvel
Hiromitsu Kanehara
Bakouri Gogitidze
Carlos Newton
Allan Goes
lmao, cant u find 9 consecutive fights in these 2 BS I sent?Guy, please reread the first sentence of the OP.
"FOR NINE CONSECUTIVE FIGHTS"
The point is them being consecutive because that is the topic I'm talking about. Your reaction is weird. Yes, Hendo likely has the GOAT strength of schedule overall. That is why the topic isn't about that... because that is acknowledged, while the thing I'm talking about isn't.lmao, cant u find 9 consecutive fights in these 2 BS I sent?
or are gonna overrate Kelvin Gas?
On a sidenote, the main point should not be about it being "consecutive", but... Weidman fought these guys in a 5 yrs span... Back in the days, they would fight 15-20 times in a 5 yrs span...
As I said, it should be about fights per year and not the consecutive aspect, much more relevant.The point is them being consecutive because that is the topic I'm talking about. Your reaction is weird. Yes, Hendo likely has the GOAT strength of schedule overall. That is why the topic isn't about that... because that is acknowledged, while the thing I'm talking about isn't.
The 2nd best 9 consecutive streak (IMO) is Hendo from Feijao to Mousasi. An asterisk (since it never happened) is that he was supposed to fight Jones after the Shogun fight.
If you're pissed about Yoel getting stiffed while facing killers then direct your anger at either UFC or Bisping. Don't know why you're pissed at Weidman, who is the only guy in the universe to face an even tougher schedule recently.Yoel been fighting killers IN THEIR PRIME and winning. He will fight Paulo next to cement his legacy as the toughest no bullshit fighter out there, and after he wins or loses, UFC won't give him easy fights ever because he isn't American goldenboy or a hypejob.
... for nine consecutive fights.
1. Anderson (wins belt)
2. Anderson
3. Machida
4. Vitor
5. Rockhold (loses belt)
6. Romero
7. Mousasi
8. Gastelum
9. Rockhold
Any debate on this? Just pointing out a fact that is often obscured under a mountain of complaining about his personality.
It's up there. But you can find stretches like this in many guy's careers, once you're a champ you're gonna be facing a bunch of killers in a row.
The Anderson wins are great obviously, but other than that he hasn't really accomplished all that much. Both Lyoto and Vitor were past their primes and off the juice when Weidman took them out.
Why would it be about total fights per year when the criteria I'm talking about is the strength of schedule for consecutive fights? This conversation's criteria is straight-forward as all hell, even with an exact number.As I said, it should be about fights per year and not the consecutive aspect, much more relevant.
Moreover, Gas is the weak link here, and Rockhold cant be considered an HOFer, right now, realistically.
This means this schedule:
Murilo Bustamante
Shungo Oyama
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Ricardo Arona
Murilo Rua
Akira Shoji
Renzo Gracie
Wanderlei Silva
Renato Sobral
Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Gilbert Yvel
[choose the 9 fights, up or down]
...is no less relevant than Weidman´s.
Im actually puttin asteriks at Gas,Rockhold,Spider too..Heck, even Vitor Gracie is problematic: old and past his prime, but some extra help.Why would it be about total fights per year when the criteria I'm talking about is the strength of schedule for consecutive fights? This conversation's criteria is straight-forward as all hell, even with an exact number.
I get it. You're bringing up great historical strengths of schedule. The problem is your examples aren't disputed. By me or anyone else knowledgeable. We all already know, unless we were casuals, what those runs meant.
The fact you have to alter the criteria away from what I stated in the OP tends to suggest just how insane Weidman's strength of schedule is. Otherwise you wouldn't be giving asterisks to Saku's list, posting 18 fights when the OP is about 9, changing definitions to say fights per year, etc.
Also, the guys you are changing the criteria in the OP for are already recognized for their legendary schedules as well. My point was Weidman's last 9 are criminally unrecognized in terms of just how legendary that schedule is.
And we'll just disagree if you think Gastelum is overrated.
How widespread is this about Gas? It is insanity to me. If you look at his last 5 fights BESIDES the loss to Chris: the guy beat Hendricks at 170, retired Kennedy, KOd Vitor, KOd Bisping, and beat Jacare. Now getting a title shot. You're gonna be DAMN hard pressed to say he is not a top 10 talent in the middle of all of that (meaning when he lost to Chris).Now let’s not forget, Anderson, Machida, and Vitor were at the end of their primes. He lost to solid opponents in Rockhold, Romero and Moose all by knock out. The gastelum win was good but I don’t believe he was a top 10 MW at the time. Definitely a tough line up of opponents regardless.