Watching MMA and then watching the flopping in Soccer ...

[jeff7b9]

Every Saturday, and most Fridays, I watch men and women get kicked, punched and elbowed full force by lifelong trained martial artists, absorbing POWERFUL violent strikes to their faces, arms, legs, ribs, etc and for the most part they shake it off.

Then I will watch Soccer, such as the Euro Cop and Copa tournament which both have final matches today...

And I see grown men flop all over the place because someone inadvertently bumped into them. They have at absolute worst what I would have referred to as a "little boo boo" when my kids were toddlers and they flail around as though they have been bitten by a crocodile often spending a minute or more grabbing their boo boo and feining soul crushing pain.

It's fucking ridiculous.



Get up ya fucking pussy.

 

[fica]

dont watch it this is getting boring as hell they flop they hold their shin nobody asked you to watch it. all sports flop exept mma boxing kick boxing and so on

 

[Flower2dPeople]

dont watch it this is getting boring as hell they flop they hold their shin nobody asked you to watch it. all sports flop exept mma boxing kick boxing and so on

 

[fica]

but that still does not make it most popular sport in world

 

[Foppa21]

Rules dictate behavior. While football players still get away, and rewarded for it, they'll continue to do it

 

[ferrisjso]

Every Saturday, and most Fridays, I watch men and women get kicked, punched and elbowed full force by lifelong trained martial artists, absorbing POWERFUL violent strikes to their faces, arms, legs, ribs, etc and for the most part they shake it off.

Then I will watch Soccer, such as the Euro Cop and Copa tournament which both have final matches today...

And I see grown men flop all over the place because someone inadvertently bumped into them. They have at absolute worst what I would have referred to as a "little boo boo" when my kids were toddlers and they flail around as though they have been bitten by a crocodile often spending a minute or more grabbing their boo boo and feining soul crushing pain.

It's fucking ridiculous.



Get up ya fucking pussy.

Within the confines of soccer flopping makes sense. Flopping can lead to cards and penaltys. They are trying to win. The potential reward for flopping is too high.

The modern 1-0 soccer product looks horrible. Its like the inverse of what happened to the NBA. But the reason they do it is purely practical.

 

[Official]

Let’s all take pictures of our cocks and post them here as a joke

 

[StonedLemur]

dont watch it this is getting boring as hell they flop they hold their shin nobody asked you to watch it. all sports flop exept mma boxing kick boxing and so on

If every sport set fire to the fans would that make it better?
No it wouldn't.

Flopping is the most pussy thing you can do, so no amount of "everyone doing it" makes it better sir.

 

[StonedLemur]

Let’s all take pictures of our cocks and post them here as a joke

You first

 

[StonedLemur]

Within the confines of soccer flopping makes sense. Flopping can lead to cards and penaltys. They are trying to win. The potential reward for flopping is too high.

The modern 1-0 soccer product looks horrible. Its like the inverse of what happened to the NBA. But the reason they do it is purely practical.

You know what would be more practical.... actually keeping the ball and scoring the goal, instead of "practically" begging for a free kick sir.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Agreed, it's ridiculous. It's the same in the NBA where some 7 foot behemoth will flop when something small happens to him.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

I've long thought that games should be reviewed and anyone deemed to be flopping should be harshly penalised

 

[LEWIS540]

Almost like they’re are doing it to try and gain an advantage.

LOL if you think otherwise.

Don’t like it but until the authorities punish them it ain’t going away.


Rivaldo, one of the best footballers of his generation did this in a World Cup game, getting the player sent off at a crucial time. Brazil went into win the game and tournament. He got no punishment afterwards.

 

[Hog-train]

A big part of the flopping is not only the rules and trying to get card - but because they want a rest. There is a LOT more running than in football or the NBA.

Average soccer players runs 7 miles in a game vs 2.55 miles for NBA and 1.25 miles for NFL.

 

[Sweater of AV]

LeBrick should have been a soccer player.

 

[Zer]

Almost like they’re are doing it to try and gain an advantage.

LOL if you think otherwise.

Don’t like it but until the authorities punish them it ain’t going away.


Rivaldo, one of the best footballers of his generation did this in a World Cup game, getting the player sent off at a crucial time. Brazil went into win the game and tournament. He got no punishment afterwards.

The terrible state of reffing just encourages it. Players often have to oversell fouls just to get noticed by refs. So often you see players who are honest, who no-sell legit fouls and try to play on, and all it does is let the opposition off the hook. I guess you could say refs are conditioned to look for players acting like they just got nuked, so if a player doesn't do it refs just ignore them. VAR was supposed to put a stop to this but it has only muddied the waters

I definitely don't like to see it and wish it would be more strictly punished, but also ridiculous examples like that Rivaldo one aren't as common as they're made out to be.

 

[fica]

If every sport set fire to the fans would that make it better?
No it wouldn't.

Flopping is the most pussy thing you can do, so no amount of "everyone doing it" makes it better sir.

what everybody flops it is ridicuous in sports like nfl nba baseball where there are constant breaks to get rest or field position does not matter at all but in football they do it for 2 reason catch a breath or get favorable position and football flopping are usually because foul was committed

 

[fica]

Flopping is not in my DNA. I played soccer once in high school (I had never played before, but it was the state championship game and 3 of their best players got hurt, so they begged me to play). I broke my arm and literally played the entire game. I refused to let anyone know I was injured.

football is only sport if you injured dig deep nfl nba mlb and so on you injured go sit on bench get a pain killer shoot sit for 3-5 minutes and then come in back again in football you come out now way getting back in again.how manu times have i seen nfl and nba players go to locker room for 5 minutes cme back and play

 

[Madmick]

A big part of the flopping is not only the rules and trying to get card - but because they want a rest. There is a LOT more running than in football or the NBA.

Average soccer players runs 7 miles in a game vs 2.55 miles for NBA and 1.25 miles for NFL.

No, among the most elite soccer players in the world, they run an average distance of 6.09 miles per game (6.21 miles strictly if counting non-goalies). However, the average elite soccer player most definitely does NOT run 6.09 miles per game. In fact, the majority of them run less than 3 miles per game. Not much more than what most NBA players run in half the actual gametime over a real-time lasting a little over half an hour longer (~+35% total time).

Lebron could handle the aerobic load of a soccer game while barely breaking a sweat. The forum's been over this before. It's hilarious how soccer players exaggerate this shit online. You'll find tons claiming up to 15km per game is normal. In fact, in the 2019-20 season, the most any player ran in any game through the first 29 matches (of 38 total) in the English Premier League was 13.73km (8.5 mi). Two clubs never had anyone run over 12km to that point.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ier-league-running-stats-this-season-revealed

Further, you can see the average run across all clubs for all players was 3,126km so far that season (11 players, 29 games). That's how you get the dumb figure that the average distance ran is "9km-11km" (it's 9.8km = 6.09mi). But, in fact, that's misleading, because it's the center midfielders who are dragging everyone's numbers up. These guys aren't the ones soccer nuthuggers bring up as the most athletic. They always talk about strikers because those guys seem so fast to them. Of course, they're not fast by NFL or NBA standards, but they focus on these guys (Ronaldo, Bale, etc.) who run very modest distances in comparison to the top midfielders. They're no different than NBA or NFL players. They tend to be faster because they carry a lower aerobic load.

Because if you throw them out, and the goalies, who don't run at all, plus the secondary substitution players, who don't play much time, you get closer to the true figure. Alternatively, you can easily observe this this by looking at the median player in the league. That's Jesse Lindgard who ran just 121.87km (= 4.2km per game). That's a paltry 2.6 miles per game. Lebron averaged that much in a basketball game in his final season in Miami. James is submaximally sprinting most of that, too, not jogging or standing. Because while the basketball game takes longer in real time, 130 minutes to 95 minutes*, the actual game time is just 48 minutes, not 95 minutes.
*counts injury time

Only 81 players in the EPL (out of 488, 16.6%) averaged more than 5 miles ran per game. Only 143 (29.3%) ran more than 4 miles per game. Only 207 (42.4%) ran more than 3 miles per game. Throw out the goalies and subs, and that'd be about half. So only about half of soccer players are running more than 3 miles per game in a Tier 1 league.

That's a mile pace of 31:40. And we're supposed to be impressed by their aerobic conditioning?

Those elite marathoners are running 12.2 miles per hour. These soccer players are running 3.92 miles. And we now know that a pitiful 7.38% of this total distance is traveled at a speed of 12.3 mph or faster. Which couldn't be more perfect. Because, as you shouldn't need a calculator to deduce, the marathoners are averaging 12.2 mph for the entire 26.2 miles of their race.

 

[StonedLemur]

what everybody flops it is ridicuous in sports like nfl nba baseball where there are constant breaks to get rest or field position does not matter at all but in football they do it for 2 reason catch a breath or get favorable position and football flopping are usually because foul was committed

And all you're saying is Im right.