Was Pride the most overrated organisation ever?

[SolidxSnake]

Brings me back to another point, most of them were on steroids. I mean half of these guys have tested positive. So an organisation where most guys use steroids and the referees wears an earpiece

Just because the UFC was "testing" for Steroids in that same time period doesn't mean they were clean. Look how many guys popped after USADA. PRIDE didn't test for it, so everyone being on it didn't matter. In any case: Silva was MW champion for like 8 years, Rampage never won anything in Pride but was a UFC LHW champ. Shogun declined a lot from Pride and still won the LHW title (despite being screwed out of it the first time), Werdum the HW champ, Overeem the Strikeforce/Dream HW Titles + K1GP Title. Hendo won gold in Strikeforce (and should have been given the W against Bisping for the MW title).

 

[SouvlakiSpaceStation]

Early Pride was awesome, Rickson destroyed kickboxers twice his size.

The fuck are you talking about... his only fights in PRIDE were against Takada, who was not a kickboxer lmfao... he was a pro wrestling star who's only won fixed fights in MMA.

 

[gevoudane]

bellator

 

[Texan6533]

As far as heavyweights, pride was overwhelmingly better than any other organization. There might be an argument for the lower classes, but it’s heavyweights were far superior at the time.

 

[JarlSkuld]

Where's the legit competition in the current UFC MW division?

Nobody denies that there were freak show fights in Pride. Those fight helped paying for the great fights and overall productions. Just compare the production values of a Pride show to the UFC.

This is worth $70.


A UFC card should not cost more than $7. A fair price for a low budget production.

Re-read my post. I specifically praised PRIDE's production/presentation. But, I think people forget how many freak-show fights there were in PRIDE. My analysis is objective, yours is fueled by protective nostalgia.

Jarl

 

[Goat St Pierre]

As far as heavyweights, pride was overwhelmingly better than any other organization. There might be an argument for the lower classes, but it’s heavyweights were far superior at the time.

Its on the same level as the current HW division.

 

[immyaxl]

A lot of guys came to the UFC from Pride and were completely destroyed. Wanderlei, Cro Cop and many more. Fedor has a bad record fighting in the US. Unless you prove yourself in the UFC you never know who is legit. You can't take an organisation seriously where the referee wears an earpiece. Chael summed it up perfectly

Different rules, ring instead of a cage, only 4 weight classes. Fighters like Silva & Shogun were much better fighters under Pride rules. I gotta give Shogun props for winning UFC gold after he had knee issues. He was never quite the same after 06 yet he still won a lot of fights. There's really not an argument that PRIDE was the best MMA promotion in the world between 2000-2005, 06 was debatable.

 

[Texan6533]

Its on the same level as the current HW division.

you may be right. Mirko, Nog, Fedor would rival any trio of any era of heavyweights and probably be a reasonable favorite.

 

[Morning Star]

Calling everything overrated is overrated.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

Fedors win streak wasn't as impressive as its made out to be. Half of them were Japanese no names

*sigh* For that to be true, he would have had to have fought 14 Japanese no names. He fought 5. And TK and Fujita were actually good fighters.

You're new to MMA and wrong as fuck.

Sit down and shut up.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

And among the other half were several UFC former and future champs.

And among the "first half" there were 5 Japanese fighters...

His math game is weak.

 

[Grand mahumper]

Pride was what it was. If you want clean sanctioned high level everytime ufc is it but pride had some damn fun cards and changed the game forever.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

I can say I’ve been to a pride event in Vegas, it was magical. Pride 33 where Nick Diaz went against Gomi, Dan Henderson vs wand, upset of Sokojou over lil not, so much, met frank trigg at the after party at the club at Caesar’s, he loves the sound of his own voice. It was awesome man.

 

[rex kramer]

Pride was probably the best org we've ever had. The UFC was pretty awesome too back then, when it had Pride as a competitor. The UFC and Pride were like the chocolate and vanilla flavors to the mma world back then. Some loved 1 more than the other, but everybody loved 'em both.

But other orgs were great in or around that era as well. Strikeforce, WEC, Elite XC, Bodog, Cage Rage, etc. But not at the levels of the big 2.

 

[rex kramer]

Its on the same level as the current HW division.

lol nah, it isn't. Which is sad considering Pride folded 14 years ago.



ffs has it been 14 years already?!?!