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A lot of great fighters came from Pride, and it put on a lot of great fights, but it’s definitely overrated on this forum. People tend to forget the boring fights that pride put on. The ring was a terrible setup for MMA. Corner stalling was way worse than wall stalling; the corner was so hard to escape for anyone physically weaker than their opponent, but it also offered strong back support that made takedowns near impossible, and if the ref wasn’t on top of it, it could make for the most boring rounds in MMA.