War Room Lounge v65

[LMP]

I'm brand new here but I definetly seem to see a lot of abuse being reported against the volunteer police. Big nacho guy myself.

~WDA

 

[Andy Capp]

Anyway, as I pointed out in the thread, the purpose of the EC was to act as a kind of primary because the founders didn't think the public would know enough about the presidential candidates to make good decisions (or generally that they wouldn't be capable of making good decisions--they were afraid that the people would elect a Trump type if we had a popular vote). It was expected that the EC would rarely actually select the president (the House decides from among the top three vote-getters if no one gets a majority).

It wasn't set up to equalize votes among states (a WTF argument), to give states a particular voice (note that states initially got representation in proportion to their population--the divergence that has arisen since is an unintended side effect of the capping of the House), or any other bullshit back-filled arguments that people are making to justify a position that is in truth based only on the perception of partisan advantage.

Hamilton didn't write Federalist 10.

The way the EC protects us from "mob rule" is by preventing the public from directly voting for president (we'd just vote for electors who are wiser and more knowledgeable and then the House would usually select the actual president). Having pledged electors already ends that (that is, the current EC is what the founders considered mob rule). Nothing to do with making sure that people in some states have disproportionate say in the election.

Also, I'm pretty sure you didn't read Federalist 9 or 10. 68 is the one you want here. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp



Obviously that's before the 12th Amendment (which among other things, changed it from the top 5 to the top 3 EC vote-getters for the House to decide among).

How any of this ties into your weird obsession with Clinton is a mystery.

So, I gather the Federalist Papers are considered canon in matters of the intent of the founding fathers, is that correct? If so, it's like you just unloaded both barrels of buckshot on a wineskin.

Wow what a headline:

Camping at Phish show banned over concerns about plague-infected prairie dogs

To me, that's more about dumb campers than shocking news about American rodents carrying the plague. Especially southern California and New Mexico, IIRC; I heard about that when I was a kid and I'm not even American. Being more charitable, I could suggest climate change may be allowing them to increase their range so apologies to the campers may be in order.

 

[The Diplomat]

What's to believe or disbelieve? What I said is objectively true. If you want to bet that Inga isn't in the top 10 of posters I've responded to in the past (you pick the time period), I'm down.

Are you really this passionate about a stupid accusation of e-stalking?

 

[Andy Capp]

@Sketch @A.C. Lest you think I wrote in jest, I was quite serious. I've noticed that in lots of places, ingredients end up on vegetarian that you never see in regular pizzas and I really enjoy the taste; it's just not satisfying without some meat protein added (which tastes good too, as it happens).

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

@Sketch @A.C. Lest you think I wrote in jest, I was quite serious. I've noticed that in lots of places, ingredients end up on vegetarian that you never see in regular pizzas and I really enjoy the taste; it's just not satisfying without some meat protein added (which tastes good too, as it happens).

Try adding feta and italiano seasoning is substitute of meat products. Gives it the taste of bacon crumble

 

[Sketch]

Are you really this passionate about a stupid accusation of e-stalking?

For me, I wear my accusation as a badge of pride.

I have no doubt in my mind my accuser looks out his windows throughout the day, to see if I’m lurking nearby.

 

[The Diplomat]

For me, I wear my accusation as a badge of pride.

I have no doubt in my mind my accuser looks out his windows throughout the day, to see if I’m lurking nearby.

Yeah, but you probably did it.

 

[Lord Coke]

this criminal needs to feel the full brunt of the law

 

[Jack V Savage]

So, I gather the Federalist Papers are considered canon in matters of the intent of the founding fathers, is that correct? If so, it's like you just unloaded both barrels of buckshot on a wineskin.

The founders disagreed on many issues so yes, but they're not necessarily the last word on every issue. On the EC, I think it's pretty cut-and-dried. The argument that it was about protecting the rights of numerical minorities to randomly prevail in the selection of the president is not based on any identifiable writings from the era.

 

[mS_?]

So, I gather the Federalist Papers are considered canon in matters of the intent of the founding fathers, is that correct? If so, it's like you just unloaded both barrels of buckshot on a wineskin.

Not exactly. The federalist papers were published in order to convince the public of the need for a new written consitution against the arguments of the Anti-Federalists. Many of the arguments in them are what Hamilton, Madison, and Jay (the authors) actually thought, but at the end of the day they're still pieces of rhetoric. They're supplemented by historians with the personal writings of the founders, Madison's sparse constitutional convention notes, and other sources. They're very interesting and well written pieces but they're not the end-all be-all.

 

[HereticBD]

this criminal needs to feel the full brunt of the law

Dude's nickname in the joint should be "Bitch Mittens".

Couldn't even sleep an old man sitting down with a sucker punch.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

this criminal needs to feel the full brunt of the law

It appears that guy has anger management issues.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Dude's nickname in the joint should be "Bitch Mittens".

Couldn't even sleep an old man sitting down with a sucker punch.

Yeah, but neither could a former two division UFC champ.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Dude's nickname in the joint should be "Bitch Mittens".

Couldn't even sleep an old man sitting down with a sucker punch.

You talking about McGregor here?

 

[Fawlty]

this criminal needs to feel the full brunt of the law

Duh? What, afraid you'll lose your nerve and bake him a fuckin' cake or something?

 

[HereticBD]

You talking about McGregor here?

Did he actually punch that dude? I've watched the video, and it's hard to tell where a punch was thrown. All I can make out is some little flinchy kind of gesture, but it could've easily been a drink toss or a shove.

Seriously. I don't know. Has it been confirmed? I saw TSN(or ESPN) had an interview with Conor talking about the incident, but I missed it. Did he come clean?

Also, if he did punch the old man, I don't know if all the jokes hurt Conor more, or Aldo.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I almost went to a Leftover Crack/ Days N Daze show a few months back but I could straight up smell it half a block up.

Did it smell like cornchips , B.O. and musk ?

You shoulda went to that. Not for the smell just to be clear but because both bands are pretty good. I used to love choking victim the best out of all those crack rock bands and these days I prefer stza acoustic .

On a related note

I totally listened to this album today while layin around the house



and it was pretty good like it always is

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Did he actually punch that dude? I've watched the video, and it's hard to tell where a punch was thrown. All I can make out is some little flinchy kind of gesture, but it could've easily been a drink toss or a shove.

Seriously. I don't know. Has it been confirmed? I saw TSN(or ESPN) had an interview with Conor talking about the incident, but I missed it. Did he come clean?

Also, if he did punch the old man, I don't know if all the jokes hurt Conor more, or Aldo.

yes he punched him.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Weddings are where you find out if you've sufficiently appeased the last generation.

Dont @ me.

 

[Fawlty]

@Tycho Brah I hope you're minding your appeasin' queues.