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Prep this time. Even if 148 will get you in, a higher score gets you a scholarship. Often substantial-schools make their money from the marginal applicants.
My intention is to save up and get maybe a test prep class.

I figure if I can score basically right dead center in the middle on my own with little to no TRUE prep I can score much higher with help.
 
I have read Takei's autobiography like 20+ years ago and still remember being impressed by his depiction of the Japanese internment camps (something I wasn't aware of at the time).

I think he is plain wrong here, however.

Why do you think he's wrong?

The categorical difference is citizenship status, obviously. But, despite being engaged in a World War and facing credible threats of espionage, the US maintained living conditions in the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s that were superior to the conditions in border camps currently. And that's also despite the fact that, currently, there is far more budgetary flexibility and available government money to administer the camps humanely, there wasn't some unplanned event that rushed the camps into existence without planning, there isn't nearly the credible threat to national security, and there isn't nearly the bad will toward Latin Americans that there was against Japanese-Americans following Pearl Harbor.

I'm not taking a position either way in moral, political, or legal terms, but I think the comparison is on-point.
 
Why do you think he's wrong?

The categorical difference is citizenship status, obviously. But, despite being engaged in a World War and facing credible threats of espionage, the US maintained living conditions in the Japanese internment camps in the 1940s that were superior to the conditions in border camps currently. And that's also despite the fact that, currently, there is far more budgetary flexibility and available government money to administer the camps humanely, there wasn't some unplanned event that rushed the camps into existence without planning, there isn't nearly the credible threat to national security, and there isn't nearly the bad will toward Latin Americans that there was against Japanese-Americans following Pearl Harbor.

I'm not taking a position either way in moral, political, or legal terms, but I think the comparison is on-point.

A fair comparison would have been the detention of the Muslim or at least Afghan-originating U.S. population after 9/11. I certainly see a difference between incarceration for who you are (identity) and for what you did (illegal border crossing).
 
Prep this time. Even if 148 will get you in, a higher score gets you a scholarship. Often substantial-schools make their money from the marginal applicants.
I need to retake the LSAT as my score is about to expire.

I did it with no test prep course and never taking a practice exam the last go around and scored a 148. Bare minimum is 120 if you don't answer a single question and 180 is basically perfect so....

If their law school had a night program I would as it's closer to where I live/work but they annoyingly don't. BYU does though.

I maintain my opinion that, the silliness of Mormonism aside, BYU Law is a fine school and would be a very good choice.

Also, I'm agnostic on LSAT prep. I took my first one cold and scored in the high 160s. I prepped for months before taking it again, was testing in the low 170s, and then freaked out and metaphorically shit my pants on test day and ended up getting a lower score than my first one. My experience may be unusual in the details, but the general event (scoring lower after intensive prepping) is fairly common from what I understand.
 
I maintain my opinion that, the silliness of Mormonism aside, BYU Law is a fine school and would be a very good choice.

Also, I'm agnostic on LSAT prep. I took my first one cold and scored in the high 160s. I prepped for months before taking it again, was testing in the low 170s, and then freaked out and metaphorically shit my pants on test day and ended up getting a lower score than my first one. My experience may be unusual in the details, but the general event (scoring lower after intensive prepping) is fairly common from what I understand.
Literally all I did though for my initial one was read two separate test prep books. I didn't even take a practice test is the thing so I definitely need to do "more" than what I did the first go round.

There was one section of it that I can't remember WHAT it was but I got the "5 minutes left" notification with like... 70% of the questions left to answer.
 
I maintain my opinion that, the silliness of Mormonism aside, BYU Law is a fine school and would be a very good choice.

Also, I'm agnostic on LSAT prep. I took my first one cold and scored in the high 160s. I prepped for months before taking it again, was testing in the low 170s, and then freaked out and metaphorically shit my pants on test day and ended up getting a lower score than my first one. My experience may be unusual in the details, but the general event (scoring lower after intensive prepping) is fairly common from what I understand.
I scored about halfway between my pre-prep practice test and my post-prep practice test.

Also, diminishing returns for standard test prep if you already have a high score.
 
Did you own a pair of magical underpants?
I never became a "priest" (all adults in good standing are "priests") because I didn't want to give them 10% of my money. It was a girlfriend/wife thing, I didn't think converting to a religion for a future spouse was all that big a deal, but with Mormons it's a little different. You're either all the way in or you're kind of an outcast, it's nothing like being a casual Christian. They are some high pressure mofos.
 
Circuses always scared me. The clowns, the claustrophobia, and, most of all, the surrealism. Kudos on the human flag (looked up the term for it). I had exceptional upper body strength and strength-to-weight ratio when I was younger, but I still couldn't figure out how anyone could do that.

Also, Katelyn Ohashi isn't someone who got hurt (that I know of). Just a famous college gymnast that became internet famous for being so goddamn charming.

The proper grip for a human flag is not instinctive at all.


Oh, I thought it was that one that snapped both her legs on a front layout. I don't want to say more, but I'll just say I don't support female gymnastics, so I don't watch it.
 
I scored about halfway between my pre-prep practice test and my post-prep practice test.

Also, diminishing returns for standard test prep if you already have a high score.
If somebody spent a few hours taking sample questions and didn't come close to missing one, is that good? Asking for a friend.
 
It might just be his ultra-deep voice, but something always carries more weight when it's said by George Takei.

"Southern border internment camps are a new low, worse than Japanese-American internment camps" - George Takei, survivor of Japanese-Internment camp



Japanese citizens were actual legal citizens at the time. The people at the border entered illegally.
 
I honestly struggle to understand how new religious movements like Mormonism, Christian Science, the Bahai etc managed to become established on such a scale.

I think it reflects both a great strength and a great weakness of US society: the strength being the exceptionally liberal tolerance of religion that allowed Mormonism to exist, and the weakness being the inability or unwillingness of the federal government to stop it and other religions from amassing enormous economic and political power.
 
If somebody spent a few hours taking sample questions and didn't come close to missing one, is that good? Asking for a friend.
I could probably answer every question properly too if I had like 8 hours for each section of the test. The damn time limit is what fucks you. I can't remember the breakdown right now but you get something like 45 minutes or so per section of the test but you have like 60 questions per section.
 
A fair comparison would have been the detention of the Muslim or at least Afghan-originating U.S. population after 9/11. I certainly see a difference between incarceration for who you are (identity) and for what you did (illegal border crossing).
I think at least one citizen was detained in one of those camps, for a few weeks even. I see your point and its a fair distinction but in practice its really not only about what you did and at least something to do with who you are.
 
If somebody spent a few hours taking sample questions and didn't come close to missing one, is that good? Asking for a friend.
No, you have to answer them too.
 
I think it reflects both a great strength and a great weakness of US society: the strength being the exceptionally liberal tolerance of religion that allowed Mormonism to exist, and the weakness being the inability or unwillingness of the federal government to stop it and other religions from amassing enormous economic and political power.
To what extent should the federal government intervene in such cases? Shouldn't communities have the right to amass political and economic power so long as they do so legally?

This reminds me, I saw the trailer for the Netflix series on the Rajneesh movement. Don't really know a lot about it and I kind of want to keep it that way until I get around to watching it.
 
To what extent should the federal government intervene in such cases? Shouldn't communities have the right to amass political and economic power so long as they do so legally?

This reminds me, I saw the trailer for the Netflix series on the Rajneesh movement. Don't really know a lot about it and I kind of want to keep it that way until I get around to watching it.

The wild wild country documentary?
 
To what extent should the federal government intervene in such cases? Shouldn't communities have the right to amass political and economic power so long as they do so legally?

This reminds me, I saw the trailer for the Netflix series on the Rajneesh movement. Don't really know a lot about it and I kind of want to keep it that way until I get around to watching it.

There isn't a firm answer or formula, but the extent to which the Church of LDS and the Southern Baptist church have monopolized life and political representation in Utah/the South is pretty obviously at odds with the original principles of secularism. Both churches hold an effective veto on any movement or candidate in their geographic areas. For what it's worth, the Mormons are less odious to me than the SBC or a lot of the charismatic church faiths and communities in the South.
 
Mormonism I think is because they ran to Utah and were untouched save for local tribes until the railroad appeared. That's the biggest reason they made it.
The isolation is a big part of it. Joseph Smith was young, handsome, charismatic, and rhetorically skilled (though not well educated). He revived the faith of a group of people who had been taken in con job after con job by charlatans. Somehow he seemed different to them, and he wasn't fucking around- this guy was willing to move anywhere and do anything to build his church, and making lots of enemies in the process held his people together, them against the world. I guess you can never tell when a martyrdom will stick to the ribs, but they loved him enough that it really stuck.

One of the other big things that kept them together was the promise that they, like Adam (according to Smith and Young), would be exalted and reborn as a creator not unlike God or Jesus, to rule over their own celestial piece of real estate. Their time on Earth was a test of faith (a common sort of belief) and a judgment of their good works, but their end was not just to rejoin the creator, but to become Him. The better you kept up with your payments to the Church the more secrets would be revealed, and it still works like that today, though the Internet has taken almost all of the secrecy out of it.

So he sold them a gigantic promise with a great sales pitch, and he was pretty legit in terms of being the pioneer type and the type who would build your house alongside you. Brigham Young was probably lesser in the charismatic leadership role but had business acumen and was good with logistics and hardman leadership. He also must have been quite smart, since he led the building of a successful society that was under serious pressure to survive their first year, and set up great city layouts (best thing about SLC imo). Settling on the Wasatch Front was also a clever or serendipitous move since it was very harsh in every direction for hundreds of miles, so people were inclined to stay after the difficult journey there.

I dunno, just some random ramblings.
 
The isolation is a big part of it. Joseph Smith was young, handsome, charismatic, and rhetorically skilled (though not well educated). He revived the faith of a group of people who had been taken in con job after con job by charlatans. Somehow he seemed different to them, and he wasn't fucking around- this guy was willing to move anywhere and do anything to build his church, and making lots of enemies in the process held his people together, them against the world. I guess you can never tell when a martyrdom will stick to the ribs, but they loved him enough that it really stuck.

One of the other big things that kept them together was the promise that they, like Adam, would be exalted and reborn as a creator not unlike God or Jesus, to rule over their own celestial piece of real estate. Their time on Earth was a test of faith (a common sort of belief) and a judgment of their good works, but their end was not just to rejoin the creator, but to become Him. The better you kept up with your payments to the Church the more secrets would be revealed, and it still works like that today, though the Internet has taken almost all of the secrecy out of it.

So he sold them a gigantic promise with a great sales pitch, and he was pretty legit in terms of being the pioneer type and the type who would build your house alongside you. Brigham Young was probably lesser in the charismatic leadership role but had business acumen and was good with logistics and hardman leadership. He also must have been quite smart, since he led the building of a successful society that was under serious pressure to survive their first year, and set up great city layouts (best thing about SLC imo). Settling on the Wasatch Front was also a clever or serendipitous move since it was very harsh in every direction for hundreds of miles, so people were inclined to stay after the difficult journey there.

I dunno, just some random ramblings.

"We're going to win so much that you're not going to believe it. You're going to be so sick and tired of winning. You're going to say, 'Adam, please stop, I can't take any more winning.'" - Adam Smith, to his congregation
 
"We're going to win so much that you're not going to believe it. You're going to be so sick and tired of winning. You're going to say, 'Adam, please stop, I can't take any more winning.'" - Adam Smith, to his congregation
Whoa, a mashup of Joseph Smith and Adam Smith...hmm...

The invisible hand of God?
 
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