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Lol your screen name combined with your posts always makes me laugh.
I just don’t picture a “Natty Dread” as an aggressively hateful conservative but here we are.
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And what kind of hapa are you actually?
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I thought this was a pretty cool article
[img[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._harpoon.jpg/800px-Meteorite_iron_harpoon.jpg[/img]
https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/weapon-made-from-narwhal-tusk
For centuries, the horn of what we know today as the Narwhal was a pretty uncommon sight in European countries. European kings as recent as just a couple of centuries ago believed the "horns" sold to them by Viking traders were from the mythical unicorn and used them in everything from crown jewels to their drinking goblets. In reality, they were actually the tusks of a medium-sized whale; what we know today as a Narwhal. While this didn't make the tusk any less rare, it did mean the source was less mythical and just really cold – the Narwhal preys on other sea life in the cold Arctic waters of the North.
Meanwhile, much further back in Earth's history, a particular meteorite collided with Earth. The iron-based ball hit what we know as Cape York, Greenland today. It left a chunk of iron ore that weighed 31 metric tons embedded in the Earth's surface. The local Inuit called it Saviksoah, or "Great Iron" and used it as a source of metal for hunting and building their communities.
Explorer Robert E. Peary with a chunk of the Saviksoah meteor.
The tusk of the now-endangered Narwhal can grow anywhere from five to ten feet in length and is a sensory organ, covered with nerves on the outer part of the tusk. So that tusk (which is actually a long, spiral tooth) doesn't just fall out or shed naturally. For every Narwhal tusk, there's a dead Narwhal out there somewhere. For the Inuit, they use the occasion to make hunting weapons from the tusks, and the length is ideal for making a spear.
To form an arrowhead, the natives need a source of metal, and, being unable to mine iron ore, they used the meteor as a source of the metal. Instead of using the blacksmithing techniques we all know through movies, televisions, renaissance faires, and whatnot, the Inuit had to use cold forging techniques – that means they just stamped the cold metal until it was beat into the shape they needed.
So it's not impossible that this lance is the only example of a spear-like weapon forged from the cold iron of a million-year-old meteor then wedged atop the rare ten-foot tooth of a near-mythical Arctic whale. It's just highly unlikely. And while people have been making weapons from the Ivory of Narwhals for decades now, know that killing one for its tusk is just as illegal as killing anything else for its ivory – only the Inuit are still allowed to hunt the creatures.
another greenland article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ned-giant-space-rocks-make-tools-weapons.html
Before Iron, Greenland had a 'METEORITE Age': Prehistoric Eskimos mined giant space rocks to make tools and weapons
PUBLISHED: 09:35 EDT, 14 January 2015 | UPDATED: 10:47 EDT, 14 January 2015
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Prehistoric hunters in Greenland lived through a 'Meteorite Age' where they mined metal from fallen space rocks to make weapons, according to archaeologists.
Danish researchers have found evidence that suggests ancient cultures in Greenland were making tools from a meteorite they found on the ice more than 1,200 years ago.
This was nearly 300 years before Norse settlers from Iceland arrived in Greenland and are thought to have brought iron with them made from ore on Earth.
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Prehistoric Eskimos made spears like the one above with a point made from iron mined from a meteorite
With no metal naturally accessible in Greenland, the discovery suggests that the meteorite was responsible for kickstarting the Iron Age in the country and allowing the native hunters to develop new metal technology.
The meteorite is thought to have crashed into the Greenland ice sheet around the Cape York Peninsula in north west Greenland, around 10,000 years ago and split into at least eight large pieces.
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THE HISTORY OF GREENLAND
Greenland is one of the largest frozen landscapes in the world, with much of the land covered with giant ice sheets.
The first humans are thought to have arrived in Greenland around 2500 BC, and was repeatedly colonised by waves of immigration from the islands north of Canada.
The first Paleo=Eskimo cultures to arrive on Greenland were the Saqqaq culture, who appear to have intermittently inhabited the western reaches of the country island between 2500BC and 800BC.
Two other unique cultures, known as the Independence Cultures also arose on Greenland over the same period until the Dorest Culture arrived in 700BC.
They continued until 1300AD, although the early Inuit Thules began arriving around 1100AD.
It is thought that the Thule's take over of the trade in meteorite iron is thought to have been partly responsible for the demise of the Dorset culture.
The Norse began settling in the southern part of Greenland in around 980AD before spreading and bringing with them iron from elsewhere in Europe.
Among them was an enormous lump of iron known as Ahighito, or the Tent, which weighs around 31 tons, a 22 ton piece called The Man, a 2.5 ton chunk called the Woman and the Dog, weighing half a ton.
These are now all housed at the American Museum of Natural History after being transported there by arctic explorers in the 19th century.
However, archaeologists from the National Museum of Denmark have now found evidence that the native 'Paleo-Eskimos' who lived in the area had been knocking fragments off these boulders for hundreds of years.
They found piles of basalt stones weighing up to 40kg (88lbs) that had been carried to the locations where the meteorites were found where they were used to hammer pieces off the meteorites.
The metal was then used to forge a knife or harpoon blade.
Dr Martin Appelt, an archaeologist from the National Museum of Denmark, told online magazine Polarfronten: 'We knew the locations because what we have here are large scientific objects, but the story of the meteorites as the whole area's source of iron have sunk into oblivion.'
Together with a team of archaeologists from Denmark and Greenland, Dr Appelt and his colleagues discovered huge piles of hammer stones.
Mikkel Myrup, an archaeoloigst from the Greenland National Museum, measured the piles using a drone and estimates that they may contain up to 70 tonnes of hammer stones.
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The Ahnighito, or Tent, fragment of the Cape York meteorite, above, weighs 34 tons but was mined for iron
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The Agpalilik fragment, also called the Man, of the meteorite now sits outside the Geological Museum in Copenhagen (seen above) but the iron rich space rock brought new material for weapons to Greenland
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The 34 ton Ahnighito meteorite fragment was mined for centuries before it was moved by American polar explorer Robert Peary, seen above posing next to the meteorite in its original location, to the United States
This would suggest that huge amounts of iron had been mined from the meteorites over the years.
'They did a heck of a lot of hammering,' said Dr Jens Fog Jensen, another archaeologist involved in the research from the National Museum of Denmark.
'The blacksmiths would start by knocking off a small piece, thoroughly beating it flat and giving it a sharp edge, then hardening it further so that it could serve as an arrowhead or flensing knife.'
Analysis on iron tools from the area show that it had come from these meteorites as they have a distinctive chemical signature that includes traces of nickel.
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The meteorite broke up over the Cape York Peninsula in north west Greenland, scattering on the ice sheet
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Polar explorers transported the Ahnighito meteorite fragment to the American Museum of Natural History
It is through early Eskimos, also known as the Dorset people, began exploiting the iron in the meteorites in the mid eighth century. When the Thules, an early Inuit people, arrived in the 12th century, they took over the trade in meteorite iron.
Weapons made from the meteorites have been found as far away as Canada.
In southern Greenland, which was the first area to be occupied by the Norsemen, just one single fragment of the meteorite has been found.
It is thought that they had no need to use the meteorite iron as they had access to iron from terrestrial ore.
Dr Appelt added: 'It has been traded over large distances and testifies to the significance of the meteorites from the Thule as a source of iron in the Eastern Arctic.'
[img[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe..._harpoon.jpg/800px-Meteorite_iron_harpoon.jpg[/img]
https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/weapon-made-from-narwhal-tusk
For centuries, the horn of what we know today as the Narwhal was a pretty uncommon sight in European countries. European kings as recent as just a couple of centuries ago believed the "horns" sold to them by Viking traders were from the mythical unicorn and used them in everything from crown jewels to their drinking goblets. In reality, they were actually the tusks of a medium-sized whale; what we know today as a Narwhal. While this didn't make the tusk any less rare, it did mean the source was less mythical and just really cold – the Narwhal preys on other sea life in the cold Arctic waters of the North.
Meanwhile, much further back in Earth's history, a particular meteorite collided with Earth. The iron-based ball hit what we know as Cape York, Greenland today. It left a chunk of iron ore that weighed 31 metric tons embedded in the Earth's surface. The local Inuit called it Saviksoah, or "Great Iron" and used it as a source of metal for hunting and building their communities.
Explorer Robert E. Peary with a chunk of the Saviksoah meteor.
The tusk of the now-endangered Narwhal can grow anywhere from five to ten feet in length and is a sensory organ, covered with nerves on the outer part of the tusk. So that tusk (which is actually a long, spiral tooth) doesn't just fall out or shed naturally. For every Narwhal tusk, there's a dead Narwhal out there somewhere. For the Inuit, they use the occasion to make hunting weapons from the tusks, and the length is ideal for making a spear.
To form an arrowhead, the natives need a source of metal, and, being unable to mine iron ore, they used the meteor as a source of the metal. Instead of using the blacksmithing techniques we all know through movies, televisions, renaissance faires, and whatnot, the Inuit had to use cold forging techniques – that means they just stamped the cold metal until it was beat into the shape they needed.
So it's not impossible that this lance is the only example of a spear-like weapon forged from the cold iron of a million-year-old meteor then wedged atop the rare ten-foot tooth of a near-mythical Arctic whale. It's just highly unlikely. And while people have been making weapons from the Ivory of Narwhals for decades now, know that killing one for its tusk is just as illegal as killing anything else for its ivory – only the Inuit are still allowed to hunt the creatures.
another greenland article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ned-giant-space-rocks-make-tools-weapons.html
Before Iron, Greenland had a 'METEORITE Age': Prehistoric Eskimos mined giant space rocks to make tools and weapons
- Danish archaeologists found evidence that early Eskimo hunters broke iron from giant meteorites on the Greenland ice sheet using basalt stones
- A meteorite broke apart and fell onto the ice sheet around 10,000 years ago
- The iron it contained was used to make knives and harpoons for centuries
- Iron from the Greenland meteorite has been found as far away as Canada
- Scientists say the huge chunks of meteorite kickstarted Greenland's Iron Age long before Norse settlers brought iron ore from Earth to the island
PUBLISHED: 09:35 EDT, 14 January 2015 | UPDATED: 10:47 EDT, 14 January 2015
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Prehistoric hunters in Greenland lived through a 'Meteorite Age' where they mined metal from fallen space rocks to make weapons, according to archaeologists.
Danish researchers have found evidence that suggests ancient cultures in Greenland were making tools from a meteorite they found on the ice more than 1,200 years ago.
This was nearly 300 years before Norse settlers from Iceland arrived in Greenland and are thought to have brought iron with them made from ore on Earth.
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Prehistoric Eskimos made spears like the one above with a point made from iron mined from a meteorite
With no metal naturally accessible in Greenland, the discovery suggests that the meteorite was responsible for kickstarting the Iron Age in the country and allowing the native hunters to develop new metal technology.
The meteorite is thought to have crashed into the Greenland ice sheet around the Cape York Peninsula in north west Greenland, around 10,000 years ago and split into at least eight large pieces.
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THE HISTORY OF GREENLAND
Greenland is one of the largest frozen landscapes in the world, with much of the land covered with giant ice sheets.
The first humans are thought to have arrived in Greenland around 2500 BC, and was repeatedly colonised by waves of immigration from the islands north of Canada.
The first Paleo=Eskimo cultures to arrive on Greenland were the Saqqaq culture, who appear to have intermittently inhabited the western reaches of the country island between 2500BC and 800BC.
Two other unique cultures, known as the Independence Cultures also arose on Greenland over the same period until the Dorest Culture arrived in 700BC.
They continued until 1300AD, although the early Inuit Thules began arriving around 1100AD.
It is thought that the Thule's take over of the trade in meteorite iron is thought to have been partly responsible for the demise of the Dorset culture.
The Norse began settling in the southern part of Greenland in around 980AD before spreading and bringing with them iron from elsewhere in Europe.
Among them was an enormous lump of iron known as Ahighito, or the Tent, which weighs around 31 tons, a 22 ton piece called The Man, a 2.5 ton chunk called the Woman and the Dog, weighing half a ton.
These are now all housed at the American Museum of Natural History after being transported there by arctic explorers in the 19th century.
However, archaeologists from the National Museum of Denmark have now found evidence that the native 'Paleo-Eskimos' who lived in the area had been knocking fragments off these boulders for hundreds of years.
They found piles of basalt stones weighing up to 40kg (88lbs) that had been carried to the locations where the meteorites were found where they were used to hammer pieces off the meteorites.
The metal was then used to forge a knife or harpoon blade.
Dr Martin Appelt, an archaeologist from the National Museum of Denmark, told online magazine Polarfronten: 'We knew the locations because what we have here are large scientific objects, but the story of the meteorites as the whole area's source of iron have sunk into oblivion.'
Together with a team of archaeologists from Denmark and Greenland, Dr Appelt and his colleagues discovered huge piles of hammer stones.
Mikkel Myrup, an archaeoloigst from the Greenland National Museum, measured the piles using a drone and estimates that they may contain up to 70 tonnes of hammer stones.
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The Ahnighito, or Tent, fragment of the Cape York meteorite, above, weighs 34 tons but was mined for iron
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The Agpalilik fragment, also called the Man, of the meteorite now sits outside the Geological Museum in Copenhagen (seen above) but the iron rich space rock brought new material for weapons to Greenland
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The 34 ton Ahnighito meteorite fragment was mined for centuries before it was moved by American polar explorer Robert Peary, seen above posing next to the meteorite in its original location, to the United States
This would suggest that huge amounts of iron had been mined from the meteorites over the years.
'They did a heck of a lot of hammering,' said Dr Jens Fog Jensen, another archaeologist involved in the research from the National Museum of Denmark.
'The blacksmiths would start by knocking off a small piece, thoroughly beating it flat and giving it a sharp edge, then hardening it further so that it could serve as an arrowhead or flensing knife.'
Analysis on iron tools from the area show that it had come from these meteorites as they have a distinctive chemical signature that includes traces of nickel.
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The meteorite broke up over the Cape York Peninsula in north west Greenland, scattering on the ice sheet
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Polar explorers transported the Ahnighito meteorite fragment to the American Museum of Natural History
It is through early Eskimos, also known as the Dorset people, began exploiting the iron in the meteorites in the mid eighth century. When the Thules, an early Inuit people, arrived in the 12th century, they took over the trade in meteorite iron.
Weapons made from the meteorites have been found as far away as Canada.
In southern Greenland, which was the first area to be occupied by the Norsemen, just one single fragment of the meteorite has been found.
It is thought that they had no need to use the meteorite iron as they had access to iron from terrestrial ore.
Dr Appelt added: 'It has been traded over large distances and testifies to the significance of the meteorites from the Thule as a source of iron in the Eastern Arctic.'
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That sucks. I wonder why you can't get it through the usual channels. I hope his pod isn't in trouble.
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Korean/Irish = true master race
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Biden is pulling ahead of the pack
https://www.courthousenews.com/biden-regains-double-digit-lead-over-nearest-rivals/
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I keep telling progressives.
Single payer is NOT something to run on. It's impossible to implement in a single President's term.
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That is sort of ironic because single payer has grown on me over the past few years. i think once we have it there would be a revolt if people tried to get rid of it
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I was just going over some anthropology stuff trying to catch up on the last few years of big discoveries, and I'm kind of blown away. The spread of people once out of Africa greatly exceeding what we learned as kids (plus a new species that's a close, recent human cousin), much much more island-hopping and seafaring than we knew about, the distinct possibility of a much earlier North American migration (during the climate change gap on the west coast preceding the one we have always assumed was the first). Lost cities being found left and right, the production of silk, bread and alcohol pushed back thousands of years (nomads made bread in makeshift ground ovens when they came upon wheat). Shipwrecks showing greater skill/advancement than previously thought. Trojan War is now coming into view despite being thought of as possibly a total myth not long ago. Just everything. It's pretty damn groovy. I'd say that almost every single thing that school kids in the 90s learned on these fronts is now known to be wrong or was very incomplete.
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Ah, the Steve Byrne blend
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Single payer is obviously the most efficient and moral health care system, even makes practical sense for businesses as well, it's just several steps ahead of where we are currently.
The current state of medicare doesn't even offer 100% coverage for the percent of the population that qualifies for it. It's still 80/20.
M4A also ignores the vast majority that are perfectly content with their private health care plan.
The conversation should be about a stronger public option available to more people so we can start weening the health care industry off private insurance and letting private insurance die a slow but natural death in the free market.
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That's the guy I was trying to think of a while back, who got busted running multiple accounts, talking to himself and liking all of his own posts.
Ahh, BatDad. LOL
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I'll bet she smells like leather and sweat with a hint of lavender and tastes like pinto beans seasoned with smoked pork.
so like heaven?
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I actually agree with this line of thought moreso in its description of conservatism than religion. In my experience the preponderance of reasonable believers are doing something like leaning onto one side of an uncertain proposition. It's a firm belief, sure, but it's one that sits in a hole of uncertainty, where the believer weighs that uncertainty as more than what we know, or worse, more than *everything we'd be able to know*. So when you throw evidence against that proposition their way, it merely disappears into vast, gaping(!) hole of uncertainty. This also correlates with resistance against such "historical" sciences, which lay down a set of facts against a blank canvas of everything we don't, and some of what we can't, know about the past. The issue is that the blank space of the canvas is much more expansive than the puzzle pieces of knowledge.
The conservative doesn't have a similar void to depend on - especially in the information age, it's a pretty radical proposition that there are aspects of the natural or social world that are enclosed in an impenetrable boundary that can't be known. The central problem for the conservative is that he doesn't want or need to know anything new, not because it can't be done, but because doing so would alter a preferable set of circumstances. Hence the boundaries around his belief system have to be asserted, rather than just taken for granted. That produces a lot more rabid, defensive behaviour.
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Crazy how mysterious the largest portion of our species’ history is.
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