War Room Lounge v59: Wight Nationalism

[Falsedawn]

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ass-shootings-on-homosexuality-obama.3995949/ check out whos in this thread slagging off the lounge......and who regularly posts in the lounge....you cant make this shit up

Today I learned that the lounge is a Democratic Socialist convention.

I didn't know Democratic Socialists sat around and talked about animu all day.

 

[Fawlty]

Progs are split at the moment, centrists are saying Biden, because why not? There's gonna be a show down and the split votes are gonna go somewhere. I'm guessing Biden won't get the nomination.

That's logical, but many people like Warren and Bernie for being old and relatable, known figures like Biden. They don't really have their ideological preferences nailed down. My guess is that if either of them dropped out today, Biden would benefit the most, and I don't think that's going to change much down the line as candidates become more familiar and the election becomes more important.

 

[Prokofievian]

Nah it's Biden.

Progressives offerings literally fall to pieces with just a little scrutiny.

The heart wants what the heart wants.

 

[Gregolian]

Today I learned that the lounge is a Democratic Socialist convention.

I didn't know Democratic Socialists sat around and talked about animu all day.

"You do that I'm going to break your nico nico kneecaps"

 

[Rational Poster]

The heart wants what the heart wants.

They're going to have to come to the understanding that winning the election is more important than fantasy policies or just accept another Trump term.

That's the option.

 

[MiniCraque]

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ass-shootings-on-homosexuality-obama.3995949/ check out whos in this thread slagging off the lounge......and who regularly posts in the lounge....you cant make this shit up

I wouldn't say he's a regular. He comes in every once in a while and either gets embarrassed by someone or gets frustrated that the posts don't garner him enough likes. Then he leaves.

I find it funny that this thread is called a "safe space" when it's by far the most open field you'll find in the War Room. No derailment rules. Anyone can post in here and talk about anything they want. Some hockey fan says something about his team's season and the very next post can be about why you think minorities will destroy America.

I'm not gonna pretend like lefties aren't a comfortable majority here (and even rightwingers who do post here like @HockeyBjj and @Gregolian get mixed up because they're not fucking insane), but if anything that's just a symptom of rightwingers in the WR being weirdos who can't chill and talk about barbecue or whatever the fuck. If there's no angle of hating liberals or minorities it's just not worth it for them.

 

[NoDak]

any time the word degenerate gets used it almost always makes me laugh.

A truly great word

Meh. I usually laugh at "mentally ill" because of the way it's wielded and stated as such an overt insult. Isn't there supposed to be at least a modicum of empathy associated with such things? Fuck no.

 

[My Spot]

any time the word degenerate gets used it almost always makes me laugh.

A truly great word

That's what led to DX.
Fornicator is another good one.

 

[Prokofievian]

They're going to have to come to the understanding that winning the election is more important than fantasy policies or just accept another Trump term.

That's the option.

Oh I agree, and that's why you should nominate Bernie or Warren. Just taking our little ecosystem as an example, I can name several posters who would vote for Sanders/Warren but not Biden, but not a single one that wouldn't go the other way.

 

[Trotsky]

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ass-shootings-on-homosexuality-obama.3995949/ check out whos in this thread slagging off the lounge......and who regularly posts in the lounge....you cant make this shit up

I don't think I understand what you're referring to.

But @ultramanhyata's comment is and likely will always be the correct response to those silly "muh moral decay" arguments: pointing that the undeniable reality that violence has declined in correlation with religiosity. We're now at a point in world history where religiosity is as strong a predictor of violent crime rate as any variable. There's always spuriousness, of course, but whether we're talking about very rich and developed countries (Norway, Denmark) or poorer developing countries (China, Cuba), the relationship seems to hold.

But no amount of data will ever convince conservative that their reductive knee-jerk platitudes actually offer nothing to the world. Because they, at least in large part, don't believe it in the first place. It's just a veneer for barbarism and self-interest.

 

[Prokofievian]

That's logical, but many people like Warren and Bernie for being old and relatable, known figures like Biden. They don't really have their ideological preferences nailed down. My guess is that if either of them dropped out today, Biden would benefit the most, and I don't think that's going to change much down the line as candidates become more familiar and the election becomes more important.

Then you also have to weight the polls by other things: voter demographic primarily, and their propensity to actually, you know, vote. These crude numbers tell us very little right now. Polls are not election predictions, or at least not very good ones.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Meh. I usually laugh at "mentally ill" because of the way it's wielded and stated as such an overt insult. Isn't there supposed to be at least a modicum of empathy associated with such things? Fuck no.

Yea on one hand they will call it mental illness but on the other expect you to control your mentally ill urges. Logic is seriously lacking in folks who think that way

 

[Darkballs]

You're both further along than I.

We need to come up with some form of hazing ritual.

 

[waiguoren]

They're going to have to come to the understanding that winning the election is more important than fantasy policies or just accept another Trump term.

That's the option.

I'm not saying the political dynamics are isomorphic, but we could copy your comment here and paste in in the Lounge Thread from late 2015 or early 2016 and no one would think it was weird. I think that should at least cause you to question your belief.

That's logical, but many people like Warren and Bernie for being old and relatable, known figures like Biden. They don't really have their ideological preferences nailed down. My guess is that if either of them dropped out today, Biden would benefit the most, and I don't think that's going to change much down the line as candidates become more familiar and the election becomes more important.

I agree with this. If Sanders and Warren were not in the race, I think Biden would cruise with only Buttigieg holding a candle.

 

[Rational Poster]

Oh I agree, and that's why you should nominate Bernie or Warren. Just taking our little ecosystem as an example, I can name several posters who would vote for Sanders/Warren but not Biden, but not a single one that wouldn't go the other way.

But Bernie and Warren are the ones with fantasy options.

Single payer is not going to happen even if Bernie wins.

Sherdog is too anecdotal and is just reinforcing bias. Sherdoggers didn't cost us the election last time. It was blue color workers in Michigan and PA. Who cares what Viva or Trotsky think in the grand scheme, they're not the mainstream voter, no offense.

 

[Gutter Chris]

That's what led to DX.
Fornicator is another good one.

You should see if by the end of the day in real life you can find a chance to use fornicator and degenerate in the same sentence

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

@EL CORINTHIAN

Told you so, also I didn't report it. I don't really report anything.

In fact what happened there is some sore asses reported me instead.

And I got reply banned, enjoy your unnecessarily redundant safe space.

Be honest. How pissed were you when you saw your commie brethren getting steam rolled.....AGAIN

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm not saying the political dynamics are isomorphic, but we could copy your comment here and paste in in the Lounge Thread from late 2015 or early 2016 and no one would think it was weird. I think that should at least cause you to question your belief.



I agree with this. If Sanders and Warren were not in the race, I think Biden would cruise with only Buttigieg holding a candle.

Literally doesn't matter it's an entirely different political landscape with different stakes.

 

[Rational Poster]

Be honest. How pissed were you when you saw your commie brethren getting steam rolled.....AGAIN

 

[Prokofievian]

But Bernie and Warren are the ones with fantasy options.

Single payer is not going to happen even if Bernie wins.

The wall isn't going to happen and Trump won. What matters is winning the election, right?

Sherdog is too anecdotal and is just reinforcing bias. Sherdoggers didn't cost us the election last time. It was blue color workers in Michigan and PA. Who cares what Viva or Trotsky think in the grand scheme, they're not the mainstream voter, no offense.

Sure, but neither of us is writing a paper right now, we're just shooting the shit. VivaRevolution is a blue collar worker, by the way.