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War Room Lounge v53: Short Notice

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I saw a BBC nature video of a pack of chimpanzees hunting colobus monkeys. That one actually had me a little shook. The camera zooms in on the colobus monkey's face when it's being disemboweled alive by the chimpanzee. It was like 28 days later, monkey edition.
 
So do you guys have this same problem?


I was watching Chernobyl the other day (fantastic mini-series btw).

I was able to stomach and see people die from horrific radiation poisoning, vomit on themselves, melt away...

however, I had to stop watching (for a bit) when the soldiers were ordered to kill the stray dogs lingering around in the villages and towns because they were radioactive.
I was playing Splinter Cell Blacklist the other day and while I go full lethal in some missions cause I'd rather deal with an alert from a dead body being found over an unconscious idiot being found and being woken up I can't bring myself to kill the dogs. EVEN WHEN THOSE FUCKERS ATTACK ME.

It's also why I love this movie:


Other than Shooter it's the only movie I can personally think of where the trope of killing an animal is used to illicit an emotional response but THEN the human character "gets revenge" for said animal.
 
Well I mean, just today you called @Trotsky a cunt

I have that dude on ignore. If I can be a lightning rod for that dude's weird vitriol, I'll shoulder that.

I think it’s a vulnerability type thing. People get far more outraged at seeing violence against a woman or a child. The same applies to an animal that we befriend.

There are multiple reasons, but I think the inability to communicate to animals that make their deaths so much worse. You can't sugarcoat or explain things or otherwise brace your conscience.

Also, there's a matter of trust. Like in that Chernobyl episode, the fact that the dogs trusted the people, came running when they whistled, didn't bear teeth. That made it worse. And that also makes animal cruelty so much worse (in my view). For instance the video of those teenagers that kicked that punted that cat that came running up to them.
 
There are multiple reasons, but I think the inability to communicate to animals that make their deaths so much worse. You can't sugarcoat or explain things or otherwise brace your conscience.

Also, there's a matter of trust. Like in that Chernobyl episode, the fact that the dogs trusted the people, came running when they whistled, didn't bear teeth. That made it worse. And that also makes animal cruelty so much worse (in my view). For instance the video of those teenagers that kicked that punted that cat that came running up to them.
Putting my last dog to sleep you could almost tell he seemed to KNOW what was happening though we didn't say shit to him.

The people gave him one shot to help calm him down some then THE shot and I started crying and blubbering like a mess (like, full blown snot running out my nose everywhere) and he just licked me on the face a couple times then went to sleep and was gone.

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Goddamnit, now I'm crying at work.
 
I saw a BBC nature video of a pack of chimpanzees hunting colobus monkeys. That one actually had me a little shook. The camera zooms in on the colobus monkey's face when it's being disemboweled alive by the chimpanzee. It was like 28 days later, monkey edition.

Chimpanzees are the least cute animals ever.

Also, I bet that was horrific considering colobuses (colobi?) already have a constant look of sadness on their faces.
 
Chimpanzees are the least cute animals ever.

Also, I bet that was horrific considering colobuses (colobi?) already have a constant look of sadness on their faces.

You would too if it were your fate to be torn to shreds by a chimpanzee. They look resigned to it.
 
Putting my last dog to sleep you could almost tell he seemed to KNOW what was happening though we didn't say shit to him.

The people gave him one shot to help calm him down some then THE shot and I started crying and blubbering like a mess (like, full blown snot running out my nose everywhere) and he just licked me on the face a couple times then went to sleep and was gone.

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Goddamnit, now I'm crying at work.

Sounds like you need some Jack Donovan in your life so you can become a more complete beast.

Sometimes I get emotional at the mere thought that I'll have to euthanize my dog someday. He's 1 year old right now.
 
@MMAisGod

Why don’t you ever lounge with us?

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Ok, so assuming that is true, I’m genuinely interested in what kinds of government policies might help alleviate this situation. How can you legislate that families stay intact? Media censorship of the “offensive culture?”

I think mentor programs might be helpful. What else?
Basically none, and that is the point. There is a error in thought among many of those who support the Democratic Party. They think that the federal government can solve or even make a serious dent in many of our social problems. As I pointed out in one of my responses to @7437, Philadelphia spends about $30,000 per pupil per year on "education". How much more should the city spend on "education" before we can expect that kind of nonsense to stop?

Mr. 7437 also mentioned the idea of funding more after-school programs. The kids raided the Walgreens at 10 PM. Unless we want schools to lock kids in at night, that wouldn't work. Sure, incarcerating the student population in "after school programs" that run through the night would prevent the crime. The irony is that the logic here mirrors the "get the criminals off the streets" legislation (e.g. 1994 crime bill) that Mr. 7437 would tend to oppose.

You mentioned mentor programs. Ok, but a "mentor" in this context is just an ersatz father. How many of these hired "mentors" can really substitute for a loving father? How much should we pay them, and from where should we source them (i.e., who is qualified to be a "mentor")?

The solution to the group of 60 inner city Philadelphia kids raiding Walgreens is loving fathers in the home. What kind of parents let their kids run freely at 10 PM? Not parents who love them. I'd risk a large supper that less than 30% of the kids in the raid come from two-parent homes.

How do we get fathers back into the homes? Fight the MSM's glorification of social decay. Most single mothers are not heroines but are just dummies. Go back to the era of shaming males for engaging in evil by fleeing their obligations to their children. Talking about your "baby mama" should be grounds for ridicule and shaming. Along with the stick comes the carrot. Praise and elevate real men who stick by their childrens' mothers and fight for their kids. It's a social issue, not a policy issue.
 
Basically none, and that is the point. There is a error in thought among many of those who support the Democratic Party. They think that the federal government can solve or even make a serious dent in many of our social problems. As I pointed out in one of my responses to @7437, Philadelphia spends about $30,000 per pupil per year on "education". How much more should the city spend on "education" before we can expect that kind of nonsense to stop?

Mr. 7437 also mentioned the idea of funding more after-school programs. The kids raided the Walgreens at 10 PM. Unless we want schools to lock kids in at night, that wouldn't work. Sure, incarcerating the student population in "after school programs" that run through the night would prevent the crime. The irony is that the logic here mirrors the "get the criminals off the streets" legislation (e.g. 1994 crime bill) that Mr. 7437 would tend to oppose.

You mentioned mentor programs. Ok, but a "mentor" in this context is just an ersatz father. How many of these hired "mentors" can really substitute for a loving father? How much should we pay them, and from where should we source them (i.e., who is qualified to be a "mentor")?

The solution to the group of 60 inner city Philadelphia kids raiding Walgreens is loving fathers in the home. What kind of parents let their kids run freely at 10 PM? Not parents who love them. I'd risk a large supper that less than 30% of the kids in the raid come from two-parent homes.

How do we get fathers back into the homes? Fight the MSM's glorification of social decay. Most single mothers are not heroines but are just dummies. Go back to the era of shaming males for engaging in evil by fleeing their obligations to their children. Talking about your "baby mama" should be grounds for ridicule and shaming. Along with the stick comes the carrot. Praise and elevate real men who stick by their childrens' mothers and fight for their kids. It's a social issue, not a policy issue.
Mom stole your plums again, didn't she?
 
How do we get fathers back into the homes? Fight the MSM's glorification of social decay. Most single mothers are not heroines but are just dummies. Go back to the era of shaming males for engaging in evil by fleeing their obligations to their children. Talking about your "baby mama" should be grounds for ridicule and shaming. Along with the stick comes the carrot. Praise and elevate real men who stick by their childrens' mothers and fight for their kids.

All of this stuff already happens. And actually, crime has fallen dramatically over the past 30 years.

It's a social issue, not a policy issue.

So isn't it more of a Mayberry or Great Beyond thread?
 
Basically none, and that is the point. There is a error in thought among many of those who support the Democratic Party. They think that the federal government can solve or even make a serious dent in many of our social problems. As I pointed out in one of my responses to @7437, Philadelphia spends about $30,000 per pupil per year on "education". How much more should the city spend on "education" before we can expect that kind of nonsense to stop?

Uhhh....what? I don't know if you're making shit up or just misread something, but you're way off.

In Philadelphia, for instance, the School District spent $9,062 per student in 2016-17, excluding construction costs. The typical wealthy district, meanwhile, spent $15,748, according to Price's analysis, which looked at the 100 wealthiest districts and used enrollment figures that accounted for differing levels of need among students.[

Pennsylvania's spending gap between rich and poor school districts ranked as the nation's worst in 2015, according to federal officials.
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/edu...ing-lawsuit-rich-poor-districts-20180706.html

Including all costs, Philadelphia spends about $14,000 per student (3 billion / 203,000 students)
https://www.education.pa.gov/Teachers - Administrators/School Finances/Finances/AFR Data Summary/Pages/AFR-Data-Summary-Level.aspx#.VZvrX2XD-Uk

For comparison, New York spends $21,000 per student and New Jersey spends $18,000 per student.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/16/the-5-states-that-spend-the-most-on-students.html
 
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Uhhh....what? I don't know if you're making shit up or just misread something, but you're way off.


https://www.inquirer.com/philly/edu...ing-lawsuit-rich-poor-districts-20180706.html

Including all costs, Philadelphia spends about $14,000 per student (3 billion / 203,00 students)
https://www.education.pa.gov/Teachers - Administrators/School Finances/Finances/AFR Data Summary/Pages/AFR-Data-Summary-Level.aspx#.VZvrX2XD-Uk

For comparison, New York spends $21,000 per student and New Jersey spends $189,000 per student.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/16/the-5-states-that-spend-the-most-on-students.html
Umm, check your NJ numbers, bro.
 
I saw a BBC nature video of a pack of chimpanzees hunting colobus monkeys. That one actually had me a little shook. The camera zooms in on the colobus monkey's face when it's being disemboweled alive by the chimpanzee. It was like 28 days later, monkey edition.
Jaime, play that clip again
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Basically none, and that is the point. There is a error in thought among many of those who support the Democratic Party. They think that the federal government can solve or even make a serious dent in many of our social problems. As I pointed out in one of my responses to @7437, Philadelphia spends about $30,000 per pupil per year on "education". How much more should the city spend on "education" before we can expect that kind of nonsense to stop?

Mr. 7437 also mentioned the idea of funding more after-school programs. The kids raided the Walgreens at 10 PM. Unless we want schools to lock kids in at night, that wouldn't work. Sure, incarcerating the student population in "after school programs" that run through the night would prevent the crime. The irony is that the logic here mirrors the "get the criminals off the streets" legislation (e.g. 1994 crime bill) that Mr. 7437 would tend to oppose.

You mentioned mentor programs. Ok, but a "mentor" in this context is just an ersatz father. How many of these hired "mentors" can really substitute for a loving father? How much should we pay them, and from where should we source them (i.e., who is qualified to be a "mentor")?

The solution to the group of 60 inner city Philadelphia kids raiding Walgreens is loving fathers in the home. What kind of parents let their kids run freely at 10 PM? Not parents who love them. I'd risk a large supper that less than 30% of the kids in the raid come from two-parent homes.

How do we get fathers back into the homes? Fight the MSM's glorification of social decay. Most single mothers are not heroines but are just dummies. Go back to the era of shaming males for engaging in evil by fleeing their obligations to their children. Talking about your "baby mama" should be grounds for ridicule and shaming. Along with the stick comes the carrot. Praise and elevate real men who stick by their childrens' mothers and fight for their kids. It's a social issue, not a policy issue.
God forbid we spend any tax money trying to educate those dummies' kids. We should just shame their parents, that's what I call culture.
 
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