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War Room Lounge v51: A Total Non-Starter

Which presidential candidates are total non-starters for you? (Pick up to 3 out of the top 12)


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Only skimming convo but I thought you two were talking about butterfly entries from seated guard?

That's single leg x
We were, but I just like that gif a lot. Also, I couldn't find one of the butterfly from seated.
 

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There's a segment of dems who purport that Yang is an insincere, malicious actor - a libertarian corporatist Trojan horse attempting to incrementally disassemble the social safety net with his Freedom Dividend.

I am embarrassed to admit that I initially accepted this read because I trusted some sources. Having taken a deep dive on Yang I now see it is nonsense.

The nuts and bolts of his proposals aside, IMO Yang is the most tangibly sincere, intelligent, well-researched, empathetic, unassuming and unflappable candidate in this race. And I believe his take on the catastrophic job displacement coming as a result of automation and AI will be looked on in retrospect as prophetic.

But do I think he has a shot in hell of winning the nomination? No. Do I hope a Sanders or Warren finds a place for him in a potential administration? Yes.
That's interesting. While I would never give credit to any notion of him being this Trojan horse, I do understand why some of his libertarian leanings can alienate Democrats. Some of the stuff on his platform carries the trademark one-size-fits-all approach and the reliance on the notion that simpler = always better.

I do share the same dislike towards UBI though, unifying welfare programs under one is highly susceptible to evil tinkery down the line.
 
There's a segment of dems who purport that Yang is an insincere, malicious actor - a libertarian corporatist Trojan horse attempting to incrementally disassemble the social safety net with his Freedom Dividend.

I am embarrassed to admit that I initially accepted this read because I trusted some sources. Having taken a deep dive on Yang I now see it is nonsense.
I haven't heard this one before, and I think it's kinda funny that you fell for that.
 
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Don't anyone reply to me with that fucking gif.
 
Saw a commercial for a new Gain laundry detergent. The tagline is "love it or hate it, it's intense" and the commercial shows the owners loving the scent, but a delivery person covers her nose in disgust when then front door opens.

Is this supposed to be postmodern?
 
There's a segment of dems who purport that Yang is an insincere, malicious actor - a libertarian corporatist Trojan horse attempting to incrementally disassemble the social safety net with his Freedom Dividend.

Who are the members of this segment?

There are a lot of criticisms saying that his UBI proposals are more of the right-wing Friedmanian variety and that they, for one thing, don't sufficiently hedge against regressive cuts to the welfare state, which is currently targeted toward and primarily benefits the most vulnerable. UBI might be a great idea, but it's decidedly less great if it actuality diminishes the entitlements to the sick and elderly who might need more than $12,000 a year and are not physically able to supplement their basic income.

I mean....just look at the annual cost for nursing homes: $60,000 to $100,000 per year per patient.

The nuts and bolts of his proposals aside, IMO Yang is the most tangibly sincere, intelligent, well-researched, empathetic, unassuming and unflappable candidate in this race.

Dude, come on. He's certainly well-researched on his niche policy expertise, but there is not a whole lot of breadth to his knowledge, which is why he has unwittingly recycled reactionary talking points about salt-of-the-earth rural white folks being the real victims of the modern era (in fact, rural people still have enormously disproportionate political power and are becoming greater beneficiaries of subsidy from urban centers) and inadvertently conflated the rural working class with white supremacists.
 
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Saw a commercial for a new Gain laundry detergent. The tagline is "love it or hate it, it's intense" and the commercial shows the owners loving the scent, but a delivery person covers her nose in disgust when then front door opens.

Is this supposed to be postmodern?
Was the delivery person fat, or unkempt?
 
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