I agree that this is mostly true about fascism, but also agree w/Barry that it doesn't require "most" people to support it (it can definitely arise as a plurality out of a system with factions even if it's unpopular). I'd say that "a significant number of people will like fascism almost by definition." And I'd say that minorities in political power who are not typical minorities (women or anti-establishment liberals such as educators, for instance) are especially vulnerable to fascism, and when they are included I think the second part holds true enough.
Gov't by reason implies equal protection under the laws, a separation of church (and other non-rational beliefs) and state, support for free speech, and rule of law. Weaken any of those pillars, and you're vulnerable to a slide toward anti-rational ideologies like Fascism.
And fighting it back has always depended on aligning right-wing liberals and left-wing liberals. If Fascists become a key part of the right-wing coalition, they have a strong foothold, even if their numbers are pretty small.
The reason fascism is dangerous is because it is popular. Almost by definition, most people will like fascism. Therefore, the most sacred duty of a Republic— if it is going to survive as such— is to protect the rights of its minorities.
I gotta cosign what @Fawlty said. Also, fascism isn't dangerous because it's popular imo. It's popular because of what makes it dangerous, namely its angry incoherence and ability to warp itself to the worst impulses of society while remaining completely detached from any commitments other than to capital/existing power.
I'm also unsure that there is - or should be - institutional hedges against fascism, because those invariably serve as institutional hedges against democracy as well. I think it's on the people of a country, not its republican institutions, to fight back fascism when it rears its ugly, stupid head.
The reason fascism is dangerous is because it is popular. Almost by definition, most people will like fascism. Therefore, the most sacred duty of a Republic— if it is going to survive as such— is to protect the rights of its minorities.
I'm also unsure that there is - or should be - institutional hedges against fascism, because those invariably serve as institutional hedges against democracy as well. I think it's on the people of a country, not its republican institutions, to fight back fascism when it rears its ugly, stupid head.
I don't think this is true, either. Pretty much everywhere where the government is fascistic, there are leftist dissidents. In the Soviet Union, in China, in Chile, in Spain, in Italy, in Germany - in all of these countries, the primary and most prominent dissidents were leftists and, in the case of the USSR/China (who were/are certainly less fascist, but still had some fascistic color), it did not make much different that the fascistic government came to power from a left-wing posture, because it's fundamentally and definitionally impossible to have a fascist leftist since fascism is about perpetuating power and leftism is about deconstructing and subverting it.
I think this gets to that neckbeard Thomas Jefferson's requirement that democracy be fueled by the blood of tyrants and patriots, except with the important amendments that the patriots and tyrants will not be historically appreciated as such: the tyrants may be regarded as patriots and the patriots as tyrants.
But, to provide a somewhat clearer answer, I don't think we can rely on purely electoral democracy to fight fascism. It has to be a more radical form of democracy that fights it.
I get that @Cubo de Sangre rubs some people the wrong way, and the current sticky leaves a lot to be desired. However generally i feel he has done what he said he would with the sticky and has been good about keeping them on the two week schedule. If this is his sticky thread it probably means he didnt have many people breaking down the door to offer topics.
Nothing good ever came from a flat earth thread. I expect he probably knew it would go down this way.
I get that @Cubo de Sangre rubs some people the wrong way, and the current sticky leaves a lot to be desired. However generally i feel he has done what he said he would with the sticky and has been good about keeping them on the two week schedule. If this is his sticky thread it probably means he didnt have many people breaking down the door to offer topics.
Nothing good ever came from a flat earth thread. I expect he probably knew it would go down this way.
@Cubo de Sangre has been a pretty good PotWR, but the current sticky has got to go.
I shouldn't blame him, though. A while ago I had an opportunity to host a thread and I declined due to time commitment issues.
I get that @Cubo de Sangre rubs some people the wrong way, and the current sticky leaves a lot to be desired. However generally i feel he has done what he said he would with the sticky and has been good about keeping them on the two week schedule. If this is his sticky thread it probably means he didnt have many people breaking down the door to offer topics.
Nothing good ever came from a flat earth thread. I expect he probably knew it would go down this way.
It's the little things my mind commits to etch behind my eyelids
Like getting stoned when we wake up: coffee grounds and coffee cups
Your silhouette in high top sneakers, and hardcore from laptop speakers
The classics to the more obscure
From Minor Threat to your old roommate's band
Like a kaleidoscope in vibrant hues, I navigate around your tattoos
Said you got that one on a whim when you were breaking up with him
And that Matryoshka Russian doll that lines your shelf from big to small
What a way to start anew: to shed your skin and find the old you
Everybody wants to get famous
But you just want to dance in a basement
You don't care if anyone is watching
Just as long as you stay in motion
We put miles on these old jean jackets
Got caught up in the drunk conversations
But after the party, it's me and you; after the party, it's me and you
With a new outlook on everything we see
From high upon this rooftop over South Philly
To the nights we lose our self control
From the sex, from the drugs, from the rock and roll
Everybody wants to get famous
But you just want to dance in a basement
You don't care if anyone is watching
Just as long as you stay in motion
We put miles on these old jean jackets
Got caught up in the drunk conversations
But after the party, it's me and you
Well, I wanted to point out that you're shrieking "science! science!" while simultaneously offering a completely unsupported hypothesis that we should fly off the face of the Earth, which as you should know, due to not flying off the face of the Earth, is bullshit. And you actually want people to challenge something you know is bullshit with expertise that is not held by laypersons, which is probably the worst sort of behavior a person seeking the truth could possibly engage in, using propaganda that you know is false. And on top of that, you're also a flat-earther anyway, despite knowing that it's untrue, making the whole enterprise completely pointless other than as a way to broadcast your mental illness. You do this because you were abused as a child.
So after your parents apologize to me for siring an asshole, and you apologize to me for wasting my time, then and only then can you truly, deeply, go screw.
Well, I wanted to point out that you're shrieking "science! science!" while simultaneously offering a completely unsupported hypothesis that we should fly off the face of the Earth, which as you should know, due to not flying off the face of the Earth, is bullshit. And you actually want people to challenge something you know is bullshit with expertise that is not held by laypersons, which is probably the worst sort of behavior a person seeking the truth could possibly engage in, using propaganda that you know is false. And on top of that, you're also a flat-earther anyway, despite knowing that it's untrue, making the whole enterprise completely pointless other than as a way to broadcast your mental illness. You do this because you were abused as a child.
So after your parents apologize to me for siring an asshole, and you apologize to me for wasting my time, then and only then can you truly, deeply, go screw.
I posted science. You post this shit. And then wonder why you can't respond.
Since you won't respond to my post which asked you only to rethink yours, I will give the ones I tagged who liked it a little time to respond and then I will SHOW YOU how wrong that you were.
I posted science. You post this shit. And then wonder why you can't respond.
Since you won't respond to my post which asked you only to rethink yours, I will give the ones I tagged who liked it a little time to respond and then I will SHOW YOU how wrong that you were.
It's not science to say that logically, we should be flying off the Earth because spinning shit. This isn't the Nick Diaz Gravity Hour, you rusty tool.
Also, to prove the Earth is curved is the requirement here, not your arbitrary "movement" variable that you're trying to use to cloud a basic and observable trigonometric fact. The experiment @Crazy Diamond posted is more than sufficient evidence for the curvature of the Earth, as is my snarky example of just walking on a flat surface until the bottom of the car disappears. The Round Fucking Earth, No Shit Hypothesis (that is the proper scientific name) predicts that as objects move further away, they will begin to go over the horizon. You attempted to falsify observations of this by being wrong about how to make measurements (as @RerouteToRemain kindly pointed out to you), and you had no sufficient reply to his generous contribution, other than saying "nuh-uh.:
And now you're digging in further and further regardless. You have received a knowledge vaccination, and it has ironically given you autism. It's only a matter of time before your misery and your fate converge at the last beating of your heart, and I want to you videotape that event for me, so I can jerk off to it. While I fuck your couch.
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