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War Room Lounge V43: STEM is Overrated

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Just now realizing that the dude who plays Oberyn is the dude from Narcos. Dat acting range, wow.
 
Fawlty said:
I'll have to check that out. He's top class. I'll even suffer through another Ben Affleck performance to see it...
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Ben is good in it as well. I loved it.

Oscar Issac is also fantastic in it.
 
Fawlty said:
Just now realizing that the dude who plays Oberyn is the dude from Narcos. Dat acting range, wow.
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@HockeyBjj You read the books, right? What was your opinion of that casting? I found him to be absolutely magnetic.

Fawlty said:
I'll have to check that out. He's top class. I'll even suffer through another Ben Affleck performance to see it...
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Unpopular opinion: I think Affleck is a well above average actor if he's given decent writing. For instance, while he was awful in Batman vs. Superman, he was pretty darn good in Gone Girl (one of my favorite films of late).
 
Trotsky said:
@HockeyBjj You read the books, right? What was your opinion of that casting? I found him to be absolutely magnetic.
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That casting was spot on. In the books, Tyrion basically shit himself seeing Oberyn approach from the walls of kings landing (there's a scene with Podrick where he quizzes him on the various flags of Dorne then has an oh fuck moment as the young Pod's eyesight is better) rather than his brother Doran who was offered a seat on the small council after Robert Baratheon's death. Doran was seen as cool and calculated and could be negotiated with so long as it was also in Dorne's greater interest. Oberyn was an unpredictable wildcard that could throw awry any plan.

The actor of Oberyn captured this well, difficult to do with lesser screen time than book pages for the setup so it wasn't a carbon copy. But was an excellent adaption of writing to screen.
 
lol @ this; went to watch a video of Chris Hedges interviewing Matt Taibbi


and noticed this little add on...
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Trotsky said:
@HockeyBjj You read the books, right? What was your opinion of that casting? I found him to be absolutely magnetic.



Unpopular opinion: I think Affleck is a well above average actor if he's given decent writing. For instance, while he was awful in Batman vs. Superman, he was pretty darn good in Gone Girl (one of my favorite films of late).
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His range is "brooding and shallow" though he often dips into an incompetent and sinus-infected "generic rich asshole" (good enough to stand out in Mallrats)

I just don't respect his chops. He's fine if the writing is good though. He's talented but not great, pretty good director, pretty average writer.
 
Trotsky said:
Unpopular opinion: I think Affleck is a well above average actor if he's given decent writing. For instance, while he was awful in Batman vs. Superman, he was pretty darn good in Gone Girl (one of my favorite films of late).
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I agree with this too. He’s in a heist flick that’s pretty great as well. He just should’ve stayed away from superhero movies in general.
 
Lead said:
I agree with this too. He’s in a heist flick that’s pretty great as well. He just should’ve stayed away from superhero movies in general.
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He's 50/50 over his career
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
Is this on Netflix? Oscar Issac is my favorite actor at the moment
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Embarrassing fact: Until just now when I looked it up, I thought he was Neil's older brother in Freaks and Geeks. Apparently that was actually some guy called "David Krumholtz." It's going to be hard to see Oscar Isaac and stop thinking "Neil's older brother." Fuck.
 
HockeyBjj said:
That casting was spot on. In the books, Tyrion basically shit himself seeing Oberyn approach from the walls of kings landing (there's a scene with Podrick where he quizzes him on the various flags of Dorne then has an oh fuck moment as the young Pod's eyesight is better) rather than his brother Doran who was offered a seat on the small council after Robert Baratheon's death. Doran was seen as cool and calculated and could be negotiated with so long as it was also in Dorne's greater interest. Oberyn was an unpredictable wildcard that could throw awry any plan.

The actor of Oberyn captured this well, difficult to do with lesser screen time than book pages for the setup so it wasn't a carbon copy. But was an excellent adaption of writing to screen.
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lol Podrick. That's one of my favorite castings as well. There was some scene earlier this season where they panned over the room and he was just gazing, grinning like a dip shit, and I had a good chuckle.

JudoThrowFiasco said:
It was the top 3 casting of the show. Varys and joffrey being in the mix.
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Can't speak to the propriety of the casting since I haven't read the books and it looks like the character is much more outlandishly villainous in them, but my favorite performance of the show is Roose.
 
Trotsky said:
lol Podrick. That's one of my favorite castings as well. There was some scene earlier this season where they panned over the room and he was just gazing, grinning like a dip shit, and I had a good chuckle.



Can't speak to the propriety of the casting since I haven't read the books and it looks like the character is much more outlandishly villainous in them, but my favorite performance of the show is Roose.
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Roose and stannis are two of the easier roles to play; but both were well done.
 
Trotsky said:
Meh, I kind of agree, at least relative to STEM. For much of STEM, you literally just don't have and cannot gain access to the necessary tools to self-learn, particularly for things like biochemistry that require powerful microscopes and computer programs, chemicals and cultures unavailable to civilians, and other lab equipment like super-freezers. Even with less equipment-dependent things like calculus, it seems to me that persons that can self-teach without some sort of institutional support are quite limited. Meanwhile, for things like the law, sociology (my two disciplines), or history, if you can procure the primary and secondary materials (which, for law and sociology at least, you can) you can learn the material.
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With Library Genesis and stackexchange anybody with decent disposition for math can learn Calculus, just download the textbooks and solution manuals and practice(do not look at the solutions before trying but you need them to be sure you got it right). It gets harder after you reach grad school level because most books do not have answers or outright suck and you are expected to engage with a professor and your peers to learn the stuff.

JudoThrowFiasco said:
That's pretty false, outside of equations and formulas you need actual access to equipment that is largely out the reach of the diy student. I can get the basis of a lot the humanities by simply accessing a school library, but I cant test out the aerodynamic properties of graphene without access to it.

Ambitious students from any discipline are going to go on their own to expand their knowledge base but the materials needed greatly differ from the hard sciences to the soft and arts
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He is talking about computer science, AKA, Coding. It's one of the few things you can really learn on your own but job prospects for self learners are bad. It's ugly but it's the truth, except if you did something incredible like inventing Linux or Minecraft you will hardly get any interviews compared to people that went to a prestigious university.

I think STEM is overrated because it doesn't really pay as much as people think. Software engineers at Google, these guys went to Stanford, MIT, Caltech and they make 150k/year and have zero job stability, live in the most expensive place in the world and if they don't make it as a manager or get stock in a successful startup they will not progress that much. 150k looks good but see how much a MD or Lawyer from a top school makes and better yet the more experienced you are in these professions the more respected and the more you earn.
Programmers are considered old at 30.
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Fawlty said:
I'll have to check that out. He's top class. I'll even suffer through another Ben Affleck performance to see it...
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There you go Mr. Fawlty, you are seeing the pinnacle nature of mans skill set. Delicious isn't it? Makes you want to get to know them better see how they rose to such levels doesn't it?
 
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