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Don’t look at me like that Pete.
Don’t look at me like that Pete.
You bring it on yourself, budDon’t look at me like that Pete.
I think it was a net gain for the US in the end so despite the very human, political motivations at play I think the Union was ultimately the more moral(or should I say less immoral?) party.It’s different because the Union apologists want you to believe they went to war, where over 600,000 Americans were killed, for a noble cause. Do you agree that doing that over money was acceptable?
The people of the time very much thought that the most ethical way to organize society was to have Africans beneath whites. Of course that's not mutually exclusive to fighting for the profit motive or for "muh state's rights"What pro-slavery ethics are there? The only ethical reason for the South to fight was to maintain sovereignty. And yeah, that's quite a bit different than a profit-motive.
I already pointed out. I can agree that there is an argument that the morality of slavery may not be the central cause of the war, but slavery as an institution is still at the core.Seems like quite a difference if you're ending slavery out of ethics vs. financial gain.
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Defoes my fav English suite, although I do prefer the French suites.
Love that bassline.
I don't see where you got that idea. Abusing the report button though makes our job much more difficult and that's all I have commented on. We know what we are supposed to do beyond that to answer the second part. There are many things you guys don't see so I can't expect you to be aware of them. Obviously I can't discuss anything from the both so hopefully that answer is sufficient.
COWARD!I've reported myself for posting something in the wrong thread and couldn't find the way to delete the post or when the system glitches and double/triple posts.
So yes you see a difference in fighting for slavery for ethical reasons than for profit motive? Do you think then that the Confederate's had a just cause knowing that the state's rights issue they were most concerned about was the preservation of slavery?
I don't see where you got that idea. Abusing the report button though makes our job much more difficult and that's all I have commented on. We know what we are supposed to do beyond that to answer the second part. There are many things you guys don't see so I can't expect you to be aware of them. Obviously I can't discuss anything from the both so hopefully that answer is sufficient.
My final piano recital before I graduated high school I did the prelude for that Bach English suite, Chopin's Fantasie Impromtpu and some Rachmaninoff prelude but I can't remember which one.
I already pointed out. I can agree that there is an argument that the morality of slavery may not be the central cause of the war, but slavery as an institution is still at the core.
Personally, I don't know how you can escape the morality of slavery when looking at the issue today. Trying to defend the Confederates is a pointless hill to die on in 2019.
Agreed, but I'm an obnoxious communist.All I said was fighting to end slavery is different than fighting for financial gain. Seems irrefutable in terms of morality.
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K serious question re: US Civil War - what is the real point of difference between the two sides being debated here? The few things I've ever read about it (the last being a chapter in a history of the American economy, for example), have always seemed to take it for granted that slavery and economics were joint reasons for the war.
Is the argument about whether or not slavery would have been worth going to war for without the economic judgement behind its acceptability?
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@Limbo Pete
''The south dinevendunuffin.'' -Captain Davis
But really, even if you accept those terms, one side was fighting for financial gain and the other side was fighting for financial gain made via slavery. I don't think the south has moral high ground to stand on here.All I said was fighting to end slavery is different than fighting for financial gain. Seems irrefutable in terms of morality.
I'll need to do some searching when I get home. I remember one of the issues I had learning it was the left hand was in like a 2 beat pattern while the right was in a 3 beat so learning how to keep them separate save for the first initial beat was the biggest bitch to learning it.Gonna bet some money it was the C sharp minor one. Although two pretty heavy pieces in the same key, back to back, is a bit much.