War Room Lounge V32: Justice for Prokofievian!!

[Anung Un Rama]

i'm on fire today. Small carton of heavy whipping cream gonna expired. Had 1 1/4 cup left. Added 1 1/4 whole milk to carton. 1/8th cup of sugar. Shake and put in freezer.

dat Depression-era home-ec. Respect

 

[Fedorable]

dat Depression-era home-ec. Respect

just mixed some salt with pepper, gonna see how it turns out.

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

 

[Jack V Savage]

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think there are few actions in that category that would do that kind of irreversible damage. Kids, in my estimation, are pretty resilient. So, for example, verbal/physical abuse are way more common than giving children hormone blockers, but I think only the most severe forms of abuse (e.g., causing the kid to lose physical faculties permanently) can really compare in terms of degree. In terms of frequency, I do think you are correct that this kind of severe abuse is still more common. However, I think that sort of abuse would be much more difficult/costly to prevent at the policy level. By contrast, banning the testing of hormone blockers on children would shut down the trials entirely at very low cost/difficulty. So it's an ROI or cost-benefit argument on top of moral one. Hope that clarifies it.

It does, though I don't agree with a lot of this analysis. Clarity is really the best we can hope for, though.

What is my "racial thing"?

I'm pretty confident I don't have a "general obsession with scouring the globe for things to get worked up about". I browse different headlines daily to see what's going in on the world. I don't do this in order to get myself "worked up". It's good to be aware of what's going on out there. You're also wrong that I learned about this (and other phenomena) by 'scouring the globe'. I learned about the hormone blocker thing in our very own Sherdog War Room. Took me no effort and very little time. To be candid, I think you probably threw that comment in there to try to annoy me and to get some of the bots in this thread to cheer you on.

I think you're a little paranoid with that last bit. But I'll grant that the scouring the globe is done by disreputable outlets with an interest in playing to the fears of a particular demographic, and that you can see the results right here without doing much scouring yourself. I think if one considers the WR to be a newsfeed, that newsfeed gives a greatly distorted picture of the world.

The specific accusation (that I supposedly fail to understand proportions) is more interesting. I don't think you'll be able to come up with many examples beyond illegal immigrant crime and the hormone blocker thing.

Racial panic, your immigration hangup is bigger than just crime, climate change, campus radicals. Let's kind of set a mental alert for this going forward, if it's something you're open to examining (and obviously, I welcome any arguments that I'm making the same error).

I think I explained the latter above quite well. The former can also be viewed as an ROI issue. Imagining there were a cheap, easy, and humane way to stop all illegal immigration today, my understanding is that you (unlike open borders advocates such as @Essie, with apologies if I'm mischaracterizing her) would take that deal. So the debate is really one about cost effectiveness.

Yes, that's the proportionality point.

Finally, I think your characterization of my emotions on these issues as including "fear" is unjustified. You aren't living in my head. I am though, and I can't think of anything I fear in the sense of sitting around and worrying about stuff. Maybe you meant something else though.

Maybe.

 

[JDragon]

@Cubo de Sangre @ElKarlo
We received these as a gift today. How lucky are we?

Edit: this was a gift from a Japanese couple that are opening an authentic Japanese restaurant here. I can hardly wait.

Further proof of Nexus ascension?

 

[waiguoren]

Racial panic

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your immigration hangup is bigger than just crime

?

climate change

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campus radicals

?

I think if one considers the WR to be a newsfeed, that newsfeed gives a greatly distorted picture of the world.

The WR is a news feed with a lot of commentary thrown in. Like all newsfeeds, it gives a distorted picture of the world.

I think you're a little paranoid with that last bit.

I believe you are a human, and I believe most humans instinctively love the feelings of affiliation and praise. When you make sniping throwaway comments that don't seem relevant, and people who have affiliated with you 'like' the posts and otherwise praise you for those comments, it's hard not to put two and two together to make four.

Let's kind of set a mental alert for this going forward, if it's something you're open to examining (and obviously, I welcome any arguments that I'm making the same error).

The error of proportionality? I'm on board. I think I tried to initiate that a bit the other day with my response to your comment about what is required for one to be "in good standing on the right". The difficulty with that debate would be that you get to define "good standing" and "the right". Like most debates in which opposing sides cannot agree on definitions, it's probably not a fruitful path to go down.

 

[Quipling]

CANadian sherdoggers: I'm heading to Toronto tomorrow with a nice lady. She wants to go to a nice restaurant. I've never been to Toronto. Any suggestions?

 

[Fawlty]

Don't take her to a Qdoba. I just had their nachos and I was NOT impressed.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

CANadian sherdoggers: I'm heading to Toronto tomorrow with a nice lady. She wants to go to a nice restaurant. I've never been to Toronto. Any suggestions?

@therealdope

 

[Andy Capp]

@therealdope

Do you like Japanese and what's your budget (not to get personal, it's relevant)?

 

[Quipling]

Don't take her to a Qdoba. I just had their nachos and I was NOT impressed.

The hotel is so fancy that I got my condom dry-cleaned

 

[JDragon]

CANadian sherdoggers: I'm heading to Toronto tomorrow with a nice lady. She wants to go to a nice restaurant. I've never been to Toronto. Any suggestions?

Never been there myself but a friend of mine has been here and seems to have enjoyed himself:

https://www.cntower.ca/en-ca/360-restaurant/overview.html

 

[Andy Capp]

The hotel is so fancy that I got my condom dry-cleaned

Oh right, you"re a law-talking guy. Hang tight.

One place would be Miku, mikutoronto.com,
High end sushi, if you're so inclined.

Kingyo is an izakaya, kingyotoronto.ca

I know Japanese isn't everyone's bag, but if it helps, these places are very well thought of.

 

[Quipling]

Do you like Japanese and what's your budget (not to get personal, it's relevant)?

Japanese is good. Probably around 100 Canadian dollars a plate, so I guess your equivalent of Applebee's?

Never been there myself but a friend of mine has been here and seems to have enjoyed himself:

https://www.cntower.ca/en-ca/360-restaurant/overview.html

That's my fallback right now

 

[HockeyBjj]

I got to update the Jussie Smollett thread and my marriage survived Chicago traffic. This weekend is starting out terrific

 

[Jack V Savage]

The error of proportionality? I'm on board. I think I tried to initiate that a bit the other day with my response to your comment about what is required for one to be "in good standing on the right". The difficulty with that debate would be that you get to define "good standing" and "the right". Like most debates in which opposing sides cannot agree on definitions, it's probably not a fruitful path to go down.

I didn't really think the point was that complicated, though there's no point simple enough to avoid being wildly mischaracterized by the likes of Anung and Inga (literally the two most dishonest posters here, IMO). I would certainly grant that there could be individual cases where the line is unclear, but the general point remains, and the vast majority of real-world examples would be clear. Limbaugh, Hannity, Carlson, McConnell, Trump, in; Frum, Krugman, Pelosi, varying degrees of out. Point being that no one who internalizes the ideal values of liberalism would want to associate with the "conservative" movement in America, as one can't stay in the mainstream of it without believing a lot that is objectively false.

 

[Andy Capp]

Japanese is good. Probably around 100 Canadian dollars a plate, so I guess your equivalent of Applebee's?
That's my fallback right now

Please see the edit of my post right above this one. Based on this new info, the izakaya sounds like a great option, but you can check out their websites and decide if you're interested.

 

[Quipling]

Oh right, you"re a law-talking guy. Hang tight.

One place would be Miku, mikutoronto.com,
High end sushi, if you're so inclined.

Kingyo is an izakaya, kingyotoronto.ca

I know Japanese isn't everyone's bag, but if it helps, these places are very well thought of.

That's really helpful, actually. I know she loves seafood, including Japanese food.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I always got As in tax classes.

I hate tax zzzzzzz

Dislike of government fueled my learning.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Do you like Japanese and what's your budget (not to get personal, it's relevant)?

I'm not big on sushi myself.

Budget for going out to a nice dinner? Me and my wife will drop $150- $300 from time to time including drinks.