War Room Lounge V26: Neoliberal Clicks

[Devout Pessimist]

It's not that abnormal to be annoyed by people missing chords and notes and having to repeat over and over and over and over...

But it's a well known fact that @Devout Pessimist is on some kind of hypersensitivity/autism spectrum. His contrarian opinions and awkward sense of humor make him rank very low on the social ladder and it's all pointing towards serious asperger.

No offense.

Sometimes I lie awake at night and wonder if I am one of those retarded people who is just smart enough to know he is retarded. I definitely have some kind of mental problem.

 

[tonni]

Sometimes I lie awake at night and wonder if I am one of those retarded people who is just smart enough to know he is retarded. I definitely have some kind of mental problem.

I lie away at night too but it's because I am diagnosed with insomnia. I keep stressing out over the diagnosis.

In comparison to ants and termites all of us are retards in a way.

 

[Prokofievian]

It's not that abnormal to be annoyed by people missing chords and notes and having to repeat over and over and over and over...

Even if you're relatively good at whatever instrument, practice is a repetitive exercise. Productive practice is when you focus on a particular passage and try to make it exactly as you hear it in your head. This almost necessarily implies playing it dozens, if not hundreds of times. People listening to this exercise obviously find this irritating.

My mom was ready to kill me when I was learning this

 

[tonni]

Even if you're relatively good at whatever instrument, practice is a repetitive exercise. Productive practice is when you focus on a particular passage and try to make it exactly as you hear it in your head. This almost necessarily implies playing it dozens, if not hundreds of times. People listening to this exercise obviously find this irritating.

My mom was ready to kill me when I was learning this

I think musical education is very important, don't get me wrong. It's just hell to listen to.

 

[brothir]

This almost necessarily implies playing it dozens, if not hundreds of times.

I'd say thousands and tens of thousands, realistically. I've been playing chromatic scales for hundreds of hours over the years, and the main thing holding me back is that I haven't been doing it regularly enough. Kinda lost the drive.

I think musical education is very important, don't get me wrong. It's just hell to listen to.

It's hell for the practitioner too for the same reason, but also for other reasons. Sometimes it just seems you're able to miss just that one crucial part with perfect inaccuracy even after hours of practice, and it's so demotivating. Also physical/ergonomic issues can drive you up the wall. When I practice guitar, it's like I can feel my wrist muscles swell/tighten, gradually forcing me to play slower and slower and being more and more painful. Constantly changing poses, sitting down and standing up, and retuning the guitar as you play. So many small factors that all threaten to crush your motivation.

 

[Shotsfired]

In a small apartment the violin is loud and irritating.

You sound poor

Lol but on a serious note what kind of mute does your wife have? Not all mutes are created equal

 

[Shotsfired]

Hearing people practice music is probably one the most annoying sounds in the worlds, right after "baby crying" and "a jar filled with teeth being shaken"

Maybe im a weird breed because as a self learner with all the instruments i know, i kina dig hearing people work through it and see the development. I was a music tescher for a short time so mayne that explains it?

 

[Shotsfired]

I'd say thousands and tens of thousands, realistically. I've been playing chromatic scales for hundreds of hours over the years, and the main thing holding me back is that I haven't been doing it regularly enough. Kinda lost the drive.

You're classically trained aren't you? If somebody has the drive and motivation, that type of training really pays off long term. HOWEVER. If you're not having fun you will never stick with it.

If you spent those hundreds of hours exploring your own sound using your ears and brain would you have been better off? Who knows really, but i know id rather spend time learning a new song then playing endless scales

I composed better music when ignoring conventional scales/progressions. Not to say i didnt fall into an existing scale or progression, but that it was organic not built.

Think hendrix in a way (without his level of savagry of course). He played what he felt and wanted. He didnt know the names of the specific inversions and what not but damned if he didnt utilize the shit outta them.

You can spend years learning scales, relative minors, etc. But if you arent actively exploring the subject matter, what good is it?

 

[Shotsfired]

When I practice guitar, it's like I can feel my wrist muscles swell/tighten, gradually forcing me to play slower and slower and being more and more painful.

Omg yes man. Guitar is my main instrument and I play a lot of fingerpicking of bar chords. After some time that pinky really starts to seize up lol.

 

[tonni]

It's hell for the practitioner too for the same reason, but also for other reasons. Sometimes it just seems you're able to miss just that one crucial part with perfect inaccuracy even after hours of practice, and it's so demotivating. Also physical/ergonomic issues can drive you up the wall. When I practice guitar, it's like I can feel my wrist muscles swell/tighten, gradually forcing me to play slower and slower and being more and more painful. Constantly changing poses, sitting down and standing up, and retuning the guitar as you play. So many small factors that all threaten to crush your motivation.

Yeah, I have the same with piano/keyboard. Problem is I'm easily distracted when things get boring.

Maybe im a weird breed because as a self learner with all the instruments i know, i kina dig hearing people work through it and see the development. I was a music tescher for a short time so mayne that explains it?

Well yeah music teachers have the patience of a god.

 

[brothir]

You're classically trained aren't you?

Not at all. My first experience with the guitar was when I was 12, got a nylon acoustic and took some blues lessons and hated it. Forgot everything. What got me into guitar again was Guitar Hero and a friend. Got a super cheap Yamaha strat and just started training on my own. That's 10 years ago now, and I've learned everything I know on my own, including theory. Changed my picking technique like 4 times, and tried a couple more. Maybe I could've avoided that with proper lessons, but it's been interesting all the same.

 

[Shotsfired]

Not at all. My first experience with the guitar was when I was 12, got a nylon acoustic and took some blues lessons and hated it. Forgot everything. What got me into guitar again was Guitar Hero and a friend. Got a super cheap Yamaha strat and just started training on my own. That's 10 years ago now, and I've learned everything I know on my own, including theory. Changed my picking technique like 4 times, and tried a couple more. Maybe I could've avoided that with proper lessons, but it's been interesting all the same.

Nah man, in my opinion you did it perfect. Unless you wanted to play in an orchestra or as a studio musician, classical training holds little value

 

[brothir]

Nah man, in my opinion you did it perfect. Unless you wanted to play in an orchestra or as a studio musician, classical training holds little value

That's been my thought too. I like making my own music and have little interest in playing music I don't like, and never really wanted to make music into a career outside of some random stroke of fortune that obviously didn't happen.

I do think there is in practicing nearly as regimented as professionally trained musicians, but just shift the focus a bit towards completely general techniques to the ones that further your own musical vision. I haven't really gotten any faster the last few years, stuck at 32nd notes at ~90 bpm with simple patterns, but I have been able to broaden my technique a bit with economy picking and sweep picking.

 

[Prokofievian]

I'd say thousands and tens of thousands, realistically. I've been playing chromatic scales for hundreds of hours over the years, and the main thing holding me back is that I haven't been doing it regularly enough. Kinda lost the drive.

Playing scales on guitar is a real chore, especially with a pick. Either finger or string changes sort of...ruin the flow.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Looking at booking a long weekend with the wife in New Orleans. Any recommendations on where to stay?

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Looking at booking a long weekend with the wife in New Orleans. Any recommendations on where to stay?

@AgonyandIrony any recommendations on bars and restaurants

 

[nac386]

@Lead was that thread locked to prevent more Holocaust denial?

 

[Lead]

@Lead was that thread locked to prevent more Holocaust denial?

The thread is from over a year ago. Someone necrobumped it which usually results in a lock, dump or the post being deleted. In this case, it was locked.

 

[nac386]

Looking at booking a long weekend with the wife in New Orleans. Any recommendations on where to stay?

Definitely do not stay on Bourbon street, or anywhere too close to it if you want to get some sleep at night. It’s an easy town to get around in an Uber, so I wouldn’t really worry about being super close to stuff.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Looking at booking a long weekend with the wife in New Orleans. Any recommendations on where to stay?

Generally the French Quarter or around it is a good bet. The Hotel Monteleone is incredible and rather famous.

The Garden District is absolutely gorgeous and pretty quiet compared to the FQ.

A lot of people like staying on Bourbon but it's always going to be loud af.

@AgonyandIrony any recommendations on bars and restaurants

Decatur street in the FQ has some of my favorite restaraunts and bars. Coops on Decatur has my favorite Jambalaya in the FQ hands down.

NOLA po boys on the 800 block of Bourbon is amazing. Everything is spicy as hell though.

Make sure to stop off at one of the many absinthe lounges.

The best music is going to be on Frenchmen Street as well as the best party.

Bourbon Street is best visited when already drunk tbh.