War Room Lounge V20: Halloween Awareness: Dispatches Blast Yo Ass from a Pumpkin Patch

[Andy Capp]

What about the times Fedor pounded the fuck out of Sonnen's face?

If it was a work, I hope Sonnen got paid well to stay conscious.

Maybe I should have put the "I admit my bias" part in bold. Anytime Sonnen gets punched in the face is a good time for him to be punched in the face.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Very good.

I love ESV and NIV, although ESV for personal use/prayer and NIV for teaching.

I am not into King James ironically, I like it for a few of the poetic translations, but find the language to be ill-suited for the spirit or letter of understanding. That is controversial in some quarters.

I always wanted to read the King James Bible because of its significance for the English canon.

I often wonder how different the world would be if all the Christians and Muslims came home - to Judaism. You all should accept your place as the chosen people awaiting your savior to come and leave the suicide cults alone. And I say that with the greatest amount of respect.

Thought you had to be born Jewish though.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Chael's got great names on his resume, but he's no Hendo.

 

[InternetHero]

I always wanted to read the King James Bible because of its significance for the English canon.

Thought you had to be born Jewish though.

I don't have the patience to make it through King James this lifetime. Not a knock on the translation, there are just so many other things on the list of lists.

One can become Jewish, however, the process requires a lot of time and dedication.

 

[InternetHero]

Chael's got great names on his resume, but he's no Hendo.

Hendo has to be in any Goat discussion.

His career could be so frustrating though.

Like instead of playing it safe with Jake Shields he kept clobbering him and aggressively jumping in, and then ended up on his back... and I was like NO HENDO! NO! And sure enough Shields straight-jacketed him to the decision.

A last shot at Bisping would bring a tear to my eye.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Hendo has to be in any Goat discussion.

His career could be so frustrating though.

Like instead of playing it safe with Jake Shields he kept clobbering him and aggressively jumping in, and then ended up on his back... and I was like NO HENDO! NO! And sure enough Shields straight-jacketed him to the decision.

A last shot at Bisping would bring a tear to my eye.

When Dan dropped The Count in that last fight I really had my hopes up. In the end though, It's hard to think of a fighter who did more with less.

 

[Lead]

When Dan dropped The Count in that last fight I really had my hopes up. In the end though, It's hard to think of a fighter who did more with less.

Yea, for how one dimensional his striking was, I was still always shocked and happy to see him make it work late in his career

 

[Trotsky]

When asked who the greatest fighter ever was, Fedor said Cain.

#facts

 

[Tekk]

Big John looks like a doorman at a Miami night club.

As a South Florida resident I approve this message

 

[Islam Imamate]

I don't have the patience to make it through King James this lifetime. Not a knock on the translation, there are just so many other things on the list of lists.

One can become Jewish, however, the process requires a lot of time and dedication.

I can understand that but its influence on English literature makes it undeniably an important read. I remember an English teacher once told me and a few other students that we should read the Bible. She was very careful in telling us this to emphasize she wasn't trying to proselytize but was simply saying its important to read in that it helps you understand so much of English literature. Its not like the importance of the Qur'an for Arabic literature.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Thought you had to be born Jewish though.

Nah, anybody can convert. Ever heard of Sammy Davis Jr.? It’s just that proselytizing and crusading is foreign to Jewish people. So it never really spread that way.

The other primary reason Jewish ethnic groups exist is because from the Iberian peninsula to the Middle East to Eastern Europe and everywhere in between Jews were segregated at best when we weren’t actively hunted or subject to inquisitions, pogroms or holocausts. Basically gives you no options but thousands of years of inbreeding.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

When asked who the greatest fighter ever was, Fedor said Cain.

#facts

Truly humility that we can all admire

 

[InternetHero]

I can understand that but its influence on English literature makes it undeniably an important read. I remember an English teacher once told me and a few other students that we should read the Bible. She was very careful in telling us this to emphasize she wasn't trying to proselytize but was simply saying its important to read in that it helps you understand so much of English literature. Its not like the importance of the Qur'an for Arabic literature.

"All of our philosophy, greatest art, and many of our ideas arise from that."

One of the few books actually interested in real people's lives, but not about what is easily seen nor heard, understood by the youngest of children and yet baffling to the wisest of scholars, containing all manner of real and so true characters, and yet professing, sometimes frighteningly so, to show the nature of a character who is truly unlike those all books are normally written for, but not about, you and me, us as well as them.

Whether red as truth or fiction that is one of the fascinating things about the Bible, or Koran, or some deep Buddhist meditations.

Unlike the best science fiction or fantasy, they search for something not of this world, a character beyond human thinking, conception, or even imagination, and succeed in a way that should only be terrifying, and yet to those who professor to understand, is astounding, the love that was promised for those who seek the face of the God above all things.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Nah, anybody can convert. Ever heard of Sammy Davis Jr.? It’s just that proselytizing and crusading is foreign to Jewish people. So it never really spread that way.

The other primary reason Jewish ethnic groups exist is because from the Iberian peninsula to the Middle East to Eastern Europe and everywhere in between Jews were segregated at best when we weren’t actively hunted or subject to inquisitions, pogroms or holocausts. Basically gives you no options but thousands of years of inbreeding.

Actually the article in my sig on jihad addresses that point. Here's the relevant part and how Judaism differs from Islam in that regard.

But a holy warrior was a missionary and a soldier all in one. He was engaged in something that modern observers would call religious imperialism.

That's an institution with very long roots in the middle east. Ancient near-eastern historians call it warfare at the command of a god, and the star example is the Assyrians. Their god Ashshur endlessly told them to go and conquer. The god of the Israelites was of the same type. "I have given into your hands Sihon the Amorite, king of Heshbon, and his land. Begin to possess it and fight him in battle", he says to Moses in Deuteronomy, where Moses reports that "We took all his cities and utterly destroyed the men, the women and the little ones".

The Muslim God also told his people to conquer, but with one big difference in classical thought, namely that he wanted the victims to convert.

The Assyrians, the Israelites and the Moabites didn't pretend to be doing anything for the good of the victims. They fought for the greater glory of their own god, and their own community, not to save anyone else. The same seems to have been true of the early Arab conquerors. But in classical Islam, the divine command to go and fight is no longer addressed to an ethnic group, only to believers, whoever they may be; and it is now linked to a religious mission civilisatrice: the believers conquer in order to save souls, not (or not just) to glorify their own community.

 

[InternetHero]

When Dan dropped The Count in that last fight I really had my hopes up. In the end though, It's hard to think of a fighter who did more with less.

Tough and tenacious in stature and grappling, a bomb of a right hand, a willingness to go head to head with anyone, to look the most dangerous men in the eye and fight them on their terms, in their ways deep, deep into his years.

How much older was Hendo when he put The Count to sleep the first time, and nearly the second?

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Actually the article in my sig on jihad addresses that point. Here's the relevant part and how Judaism differs from Islam in that regard.

Yes, Muslims and Christians are well known for pretending to be doing good for their victims. Good point.

But seriously, I didn’t mean to infer that Jewish people are or ever were staunch pacifists. That clearly isn’t the case. More to the point just that proselytizing isn’t seen as a goal. And beyond that they were largely outnumbered by other hostile empires/cultures/religions, which led to them being of a rather limited ethnic type.

Basically all that was brought up by me in order to address the somewhat common misconception that one must be born Jewish.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yes, Muslims and Christians are well known for pretending to be doing good for their victims. Good point.

You can call it pretending if you'd like(though I don't think someone like @InternetHero is pretending) but the point is in theory they actually care about spreading their religion to other people in order to save their souls while the Jews really don't which is probably why its far harder to convert to Judaism than it is Islam or Christianity.

But seriously, I didn’t mean to infer that Jewish people are or ever were staunch pacifists. That clearly isn’t the case.

Oh I know, I'm just saying that the distinction between Jewish imperialism vs Christian or Islamic imperialism is that the former wasn't ostensibly undertaken to spread the faith like the latter was.

More to the point just that proselytizing isn’t seen as a goal. And beyond that largely outnumbered by other hostile empires/cultures/religions.

The Christians were far more outnumbered by hostile entities than the Jews were though given they were a small sect being persecuted by the most powerful state on the continent. The Jews on the other hand were one ancient state surrounded by other ones in their infancy, a more preferable state of affairs I think. The Christians were able to turn it around eventually because they proselytized more aggressively than the Jews ever did.

The Arab Muslims were probably the most fortunate. They seemed to face tough odds at first when dealing with their fellow Arabs before they united the peninsula. But after they did they formed a nomadic tribal confederation, the nightmare of the settled civilizations. Its as Ibn Khaldun said many centuries later, the Arabs were a fierce barbarian peoples who could overrun the decayed settled societies of their time only to become such a decayed, settled society themselves and later find themselves overrun by a new group of barbarians in the Mongols.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Also @A.C. I just try to get as many people to read Patricia Crone(PBUH) as I can. She's not perfect(yet who is?) but I'd rather people read her than the standard anti-Islam polemicists who present a distorted view of Islamic history to suit their own modern polemical ends. She doesn't pull punches when talking about Islam but she doesn't have a hate boner for it either.

 

[InternetHero]

You can call it pretending if you'd like(though I don't think someone like @InternetHero is pretending) but the point is in theory they actually care about spreading their religion to other people in order to save their souls while the Jews really don't which is probably why its far harder to convert to Judaism than it is Islam or Christianity.

Hmm, that is a complicated question as well, I am not at all wise enough to answer it.

All I can say is a bit I know from a prophetic dream I had that came true, so this is purely my own theological understanding of God and mixed with my wholly incomplete opinion of the divine:

I am interested in spreading the Word of Christ, and mainly as to walk in the footsteps of Christ I feel is the easiest way to know God,

He has told you, O man, what is good;
and what does the Lord require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God?

I think there are some nonbelievers who can be saved if they walk the right path even apart from religion, many Muslims who know God's love and peace be upon them all, and I am sure many Jews who have faith in their hearts.

Who is righteous before God?

That there is one judge is something all could agree on, and that a Buddhist monk who dedicated himself to finding peace, a lonely traveler who only saw the good in others? Would he perform a miracle in one moment, and deny Christian love, Muslim loyalty, or Jewish wisdom in the next? As well, what virtues have I forgotten that a Muslim or Jewish man may know so well?

Who is righteous before God?

He in my belief is the one who has shown the narrow path, and religion makes it a whole lot easier to be one who can know, respect, and have the "power, love, and self-control" that God gives.

Some who are outside of The Word may well make the journey, but do not know if few or many can walk that road through life alone. It is hard to stand on our own when the whole world always turns against what is right and righteous.

God saves, not me, not anyone. What "Word" do we have? What "wisdom" can be promised by us in this age or any age?

I don't want a religion to spread, I don't want people to be forced to say "Hail Mary," I don't want anyone to do anything they do not want to do, or force anyone to do anything. Because our hearts all must choose, and in that, I hope and pray we all choose wisely. Hope in the Greek sense, of "confident assurance."

I would love though for everyone to turn and see the universe, bigger than we could have fathomed, has a love that is greater still than all those distant stars.

As we all respect and admire lowly things, that it would worth bending the knee, bending our head, low to the ground held taught by time and space to say, "Oh Creator, thank you, thank you that you could love me, love us, and love a world so small, that the darkness would be as light to you, darkness no more, you light of the world O greatest God!"

 

[Trotsky]

I NEVER go to the UFC or Contenders forums, but I ventured there just now to see the scuttlebutt on Fedor.

I legit love the sincerely enthusiastic, even if geeky and unrealistic, fandom of Fedor. Guys talking about how he would beat Stipe and Overeem lol. I missed this.