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War Room Lounge v189: Big-Time Nerd Quarrels

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Did not realize I needed to make bylaws for a free league here. Thought everyone would, ya know, just play it like they do in all their other leagues and not try to find ways to cheat if not spelled out.

Pretty sure venmoing someone 5 bucks to get a trade done is frowned upon as well, but hey, we didn’t write a rule against it before the season began either
Yeah but what if we use PayPal instead of venmo? hmm? What then?!
 
Did not realize I needed to make bylaws for a free league here. Thought everyone would, ya know, just play it like they do in all their other leagues and not try to find ways to cheat if not spelled out.

Pretty sure venmoing someone 5 bucks to get a trade done is frowned upon as well, but hey, we didn’t write a rule against it before the season began either

My analysis for the peanut gallery



Per ESPN:

Collusion occurs when one team makes moves to benefit another team, without trying to improve its own position. One-sided trades are an example of collusive transactions. Dropping a player so another team can pick up that player is another example of collusive transactions.

https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/a...eam,another example of collusive transactions.

Let's take the classic The League example of collusion: purposefully passing up claiming a player on waivers that would improve your team so that another player can claim them instead. In that case, it is collusion because the first team is ceding their own benefit for the benefit of the second team without getting anything in consideration. In this case, the trade was beneficial to both teams at both times of trade and is therefore fair play.

If MMA traded Kamara for Michael Thomas because his WR's were injured and the other team's RB's were injured, but then each of those position groups became healthy and the two teams traded back because it was now in each of their best interests, that's not collusion.

Cooperative, yes, but collusion, no.
 
My analysis for the peanut gallery



Per ESPN:

Collusion occurs when one team makes moves to benefit another team, without trying to improve its own position. One-sided trades are an example of collusive transactions. Dropping a player so another team can pick up that player is another example of collusive transactions.

https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/a...eam,another example of collusive transactions.

Let's take the classic The League example of collusion: purposefully passing up claiming a player on waivers that would improve your team so that another player can claim them instead. In that case, it is collusion because the first team is ceding their own benefit for the benefit of the second team without getting anything in consideration. In this case, the trade was beneficial to both teams at both times of trade and is therefore fair play.

If MMA traded Kamara for Michael Thomas because his WR's were injured and the other team's RB's were injured, but then each of those position groups became healthy and the two teams traded back because it was now in each of their best interests, that's not collusion.

Cooperative, yes, but collusion, no.

If you go to any fantasy football specific forum, they all say it’s clearly collusion and shouldn’t be allowed

https://forum.dynastyleaguefootball...&t=78696&sid=3ad850e6f90db3414fb411674897609e
 
Cheers to TBD for keeping us in suspense as we transition through this time in history.

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Thoroughly Besmirched, Humiliated by Communist Dominance, Sherdog Conservatives Cry "Foul!"

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Sometimes life imitates art, and other times politically tinged fantasy sports imitates Republican bellyaching.

Enter the Sherdog War Room Fantasy Football League (or the SWRFFL as fans call it).

After ten weeks of being roundly bested and embarrassed by the Communist Division, it appears that the Conservatives have had enough. Following the conclusion of yet another week in which the Communist Division has proven the gold standard of the fantasy football world, the Conservatives have launched a grassroots campaign of unfounded fraud allegations to attempt to reverse two recent Communist wins.

This past week, The Proletarians and the Sick Odors of the Communist Division defeated The Real Americans and the Punt Destroyers of the Liberal Division. This capped another week of Communist dominance in what spectators are calling "The Red Wave."

To date, the Communists retain not only the best division record in the league and a whopping 372 more points scored than the hapless Conservatives: they now host 2 of the league's top 3 teams in overall standings. That includes the league's dominant record leader the KPT018's led by famed manager @kpt018. Surely, what KPT018 lacks in team name creativity, he makes up for in fantasy football prowess.

Frustrated by their impotence, Conservative team managers @MMAisGod and @Broke Lester have begun trying to lobby fellow conservative and notoriously corrupt league commissioner @HockeyBjj to overturn the week's results based on unfounded allegations of fraud between The Proletarians and the Sick Odors.

The allegations stem from a Week 10 trade between the two communist comrades in which quarterback Josh Allen was swapped for wide receiver Amari Cooper. With each communist manager shrewdly realizing their team's needs, the trade resulted in definitive communist wins. Following the wins, The Proletarians and Sick Odors reevaluated their rosters and, feeling that their teams now had new lineups needs, swapped back the players. This innocuous act - a mutually beneficial trade following a previous mutually beneficial trade - was immediately criticized by the conservatives and met with fiery, weepy condemnation.

Slandered Communist Division owners Trotsky is quoted as saying, via his Twitter account, "The WHINY conservatives can never beat the communists FAIRLY, so they have to resort to these unprecedented and dangerous accusations of foul play. These sorts of allegations taint and disrupt years of norms and traditions in the fantasy football process. Sad!"

To the credit of the Liberal Division, their integrity still intact, the two affected Liberal Division owners, @Highmanproblems and @CubicleGangster, have been reticent in taking up the conservatives' offer to reverse the results. Nevertheless, the conservatives continue trying to forge an unholy alliance toward altering league results and staging a right-wing coup fitting only of orange windbags with orangutan titties.

Stay tuned for further news on this salacious development.
Try that move in a cash league and see how it works out for you .

Hint: the trade would be reversed and you would be tossed out of the league , your buy in would be forfit .
 
I will never understand the need of anyone to project their fears of inadequacy onto others in the form of racism. But then, I will never understand racism at all. It makes less sense than religion.

Explicit racism blows my mind. Implicit biases may never go away, but I can't imagine being completely aware of and embracing hatred for people based on their race. No other reason. Just... color.
 
Two responses, including the first one, say it's okay.

I likewise did some message board research on the question and found that it was about two-thirds call foul and one-third say fair.

Congrats. You found a 4 page thread with two people on your side lol
 
Did not realize I needed to make bylaws for a free league here. Thought everyone would, ya know, just play it like they do in all their other leagues and not try to find ways to cheat if not spelled out.

Pretty sure venmoing someone 5 bucks to get a trade done is frowned upon as well, but hey, we didn’t write a rule against it before the season began either
For the record, I don't play in 3 leagues a year with cash and dynasties and shit like you guys. Definitely sorry if I broke some unwritten rule, it wasn't intentional, I always try to work out trades that benefit both parties. It's not like we tried to hide anything, everyone gets notified when a trade happens. Do whatever you like, it's just a game.
 
The thing the irritates me about all of this is @Trotsky and @sickc0d3r cant just say "we fucked up sorry" and we can be done with all of this. Instead it has just been bullshit about playing 4-D chess and they would have done it with anyone else. It shouldnt have to be stated that this shit is against the rules, yet here we are
 
Two responses, including the first one, say it's okay.

I likewise did some message board research on the question and found that it was about two-thirds call foul and one-third say fair.
I call bullshit , no league I've ever heard of allows this , you didn't discover something new , it's been outlawed since the dawn of fantasy football .

Feel free to post a link backing up this claim
 
For the record, I don't play in 3 leagues a year with cash and dynasties and shit like you guys. Definitely sorry if I broke some unwritten rule, it wasn't intentional, I always try to work out trades that benefit both parties. It's not like we tried to hide anything, everyone gets notified when a trade happens. Do whatever you like, it's just a game.

It’s fine. You haven’t been arguing that the trade was A-ok

And yeah. Thankfully a free league. To be honest I’m enjoying the bickering and seeing how things play out lol. If we had 20 bucks by ins I would have already just reversed it and that’s the end of discussion.
 
It’s fine. You haven’t been arguing that the trade was A-ok

And yeah. Thankfully a free league. To be honest I’m enjoying the bickering and seeing how things play out lol. If we had 20 bucks by ins I would have already just reversed it and that’s the end of discussion.

If you need ice axe, I know a guy in Mexico.

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BREAKING: In a stunning investigation into Conservative Division fraud in the Sherdog War Room Fantasy Football League, evidence of draft position rigging has been discovered.

Conservative Commissioner @HockeyBjj crafted the league's draft order. The draft positions by division are as follows:

Conservative Division - 5.25
Liberal Division - 7.75
Communist Division - 6.5

This bombshell report provides clear evidence that beleaguered commissioner HockeyBJJ rigged the draft order to provide his division an unfair advantage.

Communist Division spokesperson Trotsky is expected to hold a press conference at 5pm Eastern to address this ground-shaking scandal.
 
I’m assuming the communist division wants the draft positions to be equal. Pft, but thats comm... oh
 
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