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@hillelslovak87 Just a reminder that Kagan had never been a judge before she was nominated for the SCOTUS.

I never got around to looking that up. Did you find something that had some data on the length a justice was on a high court before being appointed or something? I didn’t look that hard but wanted to know what the precedent was.
 
I never got around to looking that up. Did you find something that had some data on the length a justice was on a high court before being appointed or something? I didn’t look that hard but wanted to know what the precedent was.
@hillelslovak87 said ACB isn't qualified since she's only been a judge for 3 years. I then pointed out to him that Kagan had even less than that and he keeps dodging for some mysterious reason.
 
@hillelslovak87 said ACB isn't qualified since she's only been a judge for 3 years. I then pointed out to him that Kagan had even less than that and he keeps dodging for some mysterious reason.

No I got that. I’m just wondering if you looked it up at the time and found other information about that topic. I’ve heard it brought up here too and haven’t found anything yet showing something like maybe the average years on a high court or how common it is for one to have only three years. My guess is if Kagan had none and ACB has three, it hasn’t been a big deal.
 
No I got that. I’m just wondering if you looked it up at the time and found other information about that topic. I’ve heard it brought up here too and haven’t found anything yet showing something like maybe the average years on a high court or how common it is for one to have only three years. My guess is if Kagan had none and ACB has three, it hasn’t been a big deal.
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My take on civil disobedience is the person should be willing to take on the penalty for whatever they did. If the injustice is so great that they want to commit a crime to address it, they take on that burden. It’s usually them taking on that burden that sheds light on the issue to others and makes them question whether the thing they disobeyed was just and fix it. Or instead of civil disobedience, they could do the thing I originally said and just get it fixed by legal means if there really is enough interest in having it happen.
Honestly I think we all get this idea well enough, and still there's a point when the legal interpretation of morality does not draw the sorts of distinctions that speak to which punishable actions we favor or should favor, relative to other habitual line stepping. So when we decline to make moral distinctions beyond the letter of the law, we're losing sight of the whole reason that civil disobedience has the power that it sometimes has. If our point of view is one of the enforcer, like a cop, and we're not a cop...that's not having moral gumption, or it's at least disengaged from moral gumption.

Without going full treatise here, I'll just note that one example (Confederate statues of what I assume we could agree are the problematic type vs. NYC painting BLM on the street) should easily produce, in a morally-acute mind, the realization that is going to give the power to civil disobedience when civil disobedience happens. The future awe that will be given to the powerful civil disobedience is preconditioned on the moral goodness, in that disobedient moment, of the people who commit it. And tomorrow's history books will be in awe of the removal of those statues. Will they be in awe of the douche who tarred the BLM mural? Of course not, it won't even be a foot-fart.

And I'm pleased to be able to draw a real distinction on this right now, clarity being one of the few good things to come from the contrasting nature of today's culture-moment. But I'm not pleased to see how many people are failing this moral test.
 
@ShinkanPo Look this woman up, Marichu Mauro, she is the Filipina Ambassador to Brazil, she has been accused of attacking her Filipina maid inside the embassy.
Can Filipinos get a break? That maid thought she was getting it easy, not having to go to Saudi Arabia, but it wasn't so

The Ambassador said she is legally in Filipino territory and it's a national sport to beat up your maid so it's not illegal.
 
But to keep things in perspective, I'm currently drinking a soda and I'm about to visit a porn search engine. So, you know, fwiw.
 
He probably got arrested.
It’s not illegal to get pegged in missionary by your mom.

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Honestly I think we all get this idea well enough, and still there's a point when the legal interpretation of morality does not draw the sorts of distinctions that speak to which punishable actions we favor or should favor, relative to other habitual line stepping. So when we decline to make moral distinctions beyond the letter of the law, we're losing sight of the whole reason that civil disobedience has the power that it sometimes has. If our point of view is one of the enforcer, like a cop, and we're not a cop...that's not having moral gumption, or it's at least disengaged from moral gumption.

Without going full treatise here, I'll just note that one example (Confederate statues of what I assume we could agree are the problematic type vs. NYC painting BLM on the street) should easily produce, in a morally-acute mind, the realization that is going to give the power to civil disobedience when civil disobedience happens. The future awe that will be given to the powerful civil disobedience is preconditioned on the moral goodness, in that disobedient moment, of the people who commit it. And tomorrow's history books will be in awe of the removal of those statues. Will they be in awe of the douche who tarred the BLM mural? Of course not, it won't even be a foot-fart.

And I'm pleased to be able to draw a real distinction on this right now, clarity being one of the few good things to come from the contrasting nature of today's culture-moment. But I'm not pleased to see how many people are failing this moral test.

I wouldn’t say I’m giving cops or whoever complete moral authority. They are meant to follow whatever law the people put in place and if they don’t, then that’s a problem as well that would need addressed. I think the dividing line here with this issue is I think a statue which can be easily removed legally with enough effort is less important than violating the principle of property destruction for the sake of assuming we will be in awe of that action in the future. If someone is not weighing the importance of those two and how it could benefit/ harm society, then I think it’s more self righteousness than trying to do the right thing here. That’s why to BEERs comments, I mentioned a different society could get me to a different answer on this when we weight those two factors. But we are in this one and for that reason, we should be more careful on what actions are truly worth breaking law or the social contract for. These things need to be weighed and not frivolously used just because we feel or know we are right as that is only the first step.
 
I wouldn’t say I’m giving cops or whoever complete moral authority. They are meant to follow whatever law the people put in place and if they don’t, then that’s a problem as well that would need addressed. I think the dividing line here with this issue is I think a statue which can be easily removed legally with enough effort is less important than violating the principle of property destruction for the sake of assuming we will be in awe of that action in the future. If someone is not weighing the importance of those two and how it could benefit/ harm society, then I think it’s more self righteousness than trying to do the right thing here. That’s why to BEERs comments, I mentioned a different society could get me to a different answer on this when we weight those two factors. But we are in this one and for that reason, we should be more careful on what actions are truly worth breaking law or the social contract for. These things need to be weighed and not frivolously used just because we feel or know we are right as that is only the first step.
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His civil disobedience will be remembered for ages for us all to prosper from. For if it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t be able to do that one thing now that everyone is fully aware of so I won’t even state it. A true martyr.
Fine.
 
i actually got him to admit he loves gooooooooold on chat playing GTA lol

think someone said, "okay?"

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