War Room Lounge v167: The Safest Space on Earth

[Fawlty]

love the houses reminds me of my wife’s homeland

You're a lucky man to be married to tonni. Keeps everything clean.

 

[Falsedawn]

So this is a safe space now?

I only posts in the safest of spaces.

 

[TeTe]

Only if you aren't an A hole

Well I'm out then

 

[Islam Imamate]

I don't think people push back enough false beliefs like Bigfoot and aliens (or creationism, the afterlife, etc.--I don't think religion should get an exception). It all contributes to a kind of mindset that is greatly harming the country. I suspect that the re-emergence of creationism helped prep Evangelicals to embrace climate-science denialism, which in turn helped clear the way for a general denialism (why trust the same sources that lie about the world having been around for more than 6,000 years and that routinely promote the Chinese hoax about the climate about anything else?).

Sure criticism of those beliefs is important too but in my mind there's a difference between something that is not likely to be true but isn't falsifiable and something that is falsifiable. If you're spreading claims that are falsifiable that's taking the irresponsibility to a higher level.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Ouch. That bottom rib. Gonna have to be careful to not breath deep for a while

 

[Deleted member 539235]

raise

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Ouch. That bottom rib. Gonna have to be careful to not breath deep for a while

One break lol , break nine more and then get back to me

 

[BEER]

raise

I have no idea who that is, but I still want to punch Dax more.

 

[Islam Imamate]

And somehow he ended up with Kristen Bell who's much richer than him and out of his league.

That's why I want to punch him.

Ouch. That bottom rib. Gonna have to be careful to not breath deep for a while

Oh my.

Any idea when it first got injured? I got the fight spoiled so I skipped through most of it. Was rooting for Woodley but it was still satisfying to see him lose again. Three in a row now, time for Bellator.

 

[MiniCraque]

I don't think people push back enough false beliefs like Bigfoot and aliens (or creationism, the afterlife, etc.--I don't think religion should get an exception). It all contributes to a kind of mindset that is greatly harming the country. I suspect that the re-emergence of creationism helped prep Evangelicals to embrace climate-science denialism, which in turn helped clear the way for a general denialism (why trust the same sources that lie about the world having been around for more than 6,000 years and that routinely promote the Chinese hoax about the climate about anything else?).

I definitely see your point when it comes to stuff inherently linked to big conspiracies (although that link isn't always stated out loud), but religion? That's rarely a battle worth fighting. If a person's religious beliefs directly get in the way of their survival (like someone refusing medical treatment because God will save them or they'll be welcomed in the afterlife) or dictates the way they treat others in a negative way (like homophobia), then sure... but if it's mostly a spiritual matter, staying far away from that is just the smart thing to do. No sense in antagonizing people with no short term goals in mind, specially given how religion is often an integral part of a person's identity.

If you mean push back collectively then I agree... if it was up to me teaching creationism in school would be outlawed, even in private institutions and religious beliefs should never ever exempt you from civic duties.

 

[BEER]

My brother and stepdad decided they wanted to make pot brownies today, and the whole house smells like week. I'm gonna barf.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

So this is a safe space now?

Not for you motherfucka.

I'm kind of annoyed today. This girl is trying to guilt trip me into having sex with her because she has brain damage.

My god you actually liked listening to the Ari Shaffir appearances?

We could not possibly have more different tastes

You would have no idea two comedians were talking when they’re together. It’s just 3 hours of talking. Nothing funny going on and neither has anything interesting to say.

I've saw Ari perform during his last tour and he was incredible. I don't listen to Ari on podcasts or Skeptic Tank for a bunch of laughs. I just enjoy listening to the dude talk. He breaks down stand up beautifully and his podcast with Bert on "fun" was great.

Honestly learned a lot about myself from that podcast too, the perpetual pursuit of fun.

 

[JDragon]

My brother and stepdad decided they wanted to make pot brownies today, and the whole house smells like week. I'm gonna barf.

Could be worse, imagine if it smelled like month

Spoiler

 

[Jack V Savage]

I definitely see your point when it comes to stuff inherently linked to big conspiracies (although that link isn't always stated out loud), but religion? That's rarely a battle worth fighting. If a person's religious beliefs directly get in the way of their survival (like someone refusing medical treatment because God will save them or they'll be welcomed in the afterlife) or dictates the way they treat others in a negative way (like homophobia), then sure... but if it's mostly a spiritual matter, staying far away from that is just the smart thing to do. No sense in antagonizing people with no short term goals in mind, specially given how religion is often an integral part of a person's identity.

If you mean push back collectively then I agree... if it was up to me teaching creationism in school would be outlawed, even in private institutions and religious beliefs should never ever exempt you from civic duties.

Fair point that you're probably not going to get anywhere pushing back against religion. But I think it is a problem to the extent that religions push supernaturalism, even if there's no obvious solution. And religious beliefs that either directly or indirectly promote CTism should be fought (I'd put creationism in that category, as the implication is that the scientific community and popular culture is all trying to fool people or fooled themselves, and prominent creationists often directly say as much).

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Not for you motherfucka.

I'm kind of annoyed today. This girl is trying to guilt trip me into having sex with her because she has brain damage.



un.

LMAO
Dude, you and @BEER pull this $hit all the time.

you drop some crazy ass headline like that and don't follow up with details.

Details mofo!!! let's hear it.

 

[JDragon]

Fair point that you're probably not going to get anywhere pushing back against religion. But I think it is a problem to the extent that religions push supernaturalism, even if there's no obvious solution. And religious beliefs that either directly or indirectly promote CTism should be fought (I'd put creationism in that category, as the implication is that the scientific community and popular culture is all trying to fool people or fooled themselves, and prominent creationists often directly say as much).

I talked to a Sunni Muslim who explained to me that his strand of creationism does not question scientific results as such. It sounded like 'yeah sure your science says the universe is 13 billion years old, that's because God makes it seem that way'.

I find that a very agreeable stance. I do not mind if you secretly believe the Earth is just a couple thousand years old because you have come up with a logical immunization device for your religion. At least you do not need to discredit the science and scientific process, as this also then extends to other domains.

 

[tonni]

Do you mean Rogan? How is apologizing for a false claim that is incendiary(pun intended) being a sell out? Even if Spotify pressured him on some level to do so it was still the right thing to do.

What was the claim?

 

[tonni]

What in the absolute fuck????

Well you go ahead and do the use of force test, see how long it takes for you to release the hounds.

 

[MiniCraque]

What was the claim?

Forest fires in Oregon are caused by Antifa.

 

[Islam Imamate]

What was the claim?