War Room Lounge v166: It's the classical freedom FROM gussets vs freedom OF gussets conundrum.

[Yehudim]

@ me homie. I literally said I love America for the art and that Americans have struggled for our rights more than almost any other nation. So keep herpin and derpin.

Tagging posters is incredibly annoying to me.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Tagging posters is incredibly annoying to me.

Then how was anything I said wrong in a historical context. I've also repeatedly brought up instances of American heroism, from John Brown to the Ludlow Massacre. From music to film I adore American culture.

So, point out where I was incorrect on anything I said.

 

[Yehudim]

Then how was anything I said wrong in a historical context. I've also repeatedly brought up instances of American heroism, from John Brown to the Ludlow Massacre. From music to film I adore American culture.

So, point out where I was incorrect on anything I said.

Well, I was replying to what that guy specifically highlighted, regarding ethnic cleansing and medical experimentation

Japan was so good at ethnic cleansing, you’re probably not aware that the Japanese as we know it aren’t the original inhabitants of Japan.

And medical experimentation? Maybe you can enlighten me on the US equivalent to what Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany did.

The Tuskegee experiments? A relatively small amount of sterilizations?

Here is where you can educate me on the subject, because I have read about the horrific medical experimentation of Japan and Germany, and I’ve also read about the US and I don’t see a moral equivalent.

 

[tonni]

Please see above.

That’s between me and my hero. Sorry.

 

[tonni]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

Read up homie. Don't forget how the US welcomed Nazi and Unit 731 doctors into our open arms.

Not to disagree or nitpick, by ethnical cleansing you mean native Americans? Anything specific here?

 

[tonni]

Japan was so good at ethnic cleansing, you’re probably not aware that the Japanese as we know it aren’t the original inhabitants of Japan.

Did you know Americans weren’t the original inhabitants either? Read it somewhere.

 

[tonni]

Guys it's been nice knowing you but, you know, because the Netherlands has UHC, I just got the mail today and it looks like I've been selected by the sterilization board for sterilization. You know how it be with government healthcare.

Finally the Netherlands do something I can support.

 

[Yehudim]

Did you know Americans weren’t the original inhabitants either? Read it somewhere.

Oh wow, everyone and their mother just learned that. Thanks tonni, you always bring in the deep insight this forum desperately needs.

 

[tonni]

Americans are so good at ethnic cleansing, they turned “gotta defend ourselves against savages” into a lucrative trope (Westerns).

 

[tonni]

Oh wow, everyone and their mother just learned that. Thanks tonni, you always bring in the deep insight this forum desperately needs.

I don’t think a lot of people bring their mom in here, frankly.

 

[Yehudim]

I don’t think a lot of people bring their mom in here, frankly.

Not bring them in here, but have them in the background, since were all living in moms basement

 

[tonni]

Not bring them in here, but have them in the background, since were all living in moms basement

I live in an appartment.

 

[Yehudim]

Americans are so good at ethnic cleansing, they turned “gotta defend ourselves against savages” into a lucrative trope (Westerns).

Yes and America acknowledges Native Americans and have tried to correct our wrongs by preserving their culture and keeping them visible in our history and modern culture

Meanwhile, what can anyone say about the Ainu? You can’t even learn much about them with the internet. Their culture and presence in modern Japan is basically a footnote in history, even though a tiny amount still exist, but refuse to acknowledge their ancestry

So, who is better at ethnic cleansing?

 

[tonni]

have tried to correct our wrongs by preserving their culture

@Limbo Pete

 

[Yehudim]

@Limbo Pete

This one is going to be fun because he can give me a wall of text about how I am wrong, but I win by default because the comparison is with Japan.

That we have federally recognized tribes running autonomous communities means that any sin we have committed against the natives makes us worse at ethnic cleansing compared to Japan.

Remember, this is about Agonyandirony’s comment.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Yes and America acknowledges Native Americans and have tried to correct our wrongs by preserving their culture and keeping them visible in our history and modern culture

Meanwhile, what can anyone say about the Ainu? You can’t even learn much about them with the internet. Their culture and presence in modern Japan is basically a footnote in history, even though a tiny amount still exist, but refuse to acknowledge their ancestry

So, who is better at ethnic cleansing?

@Limbo Pete

This one is going to be fun because he can give me a wall of text about how I am wrong, but I win by default because the comparison is with Japan.

That we have federally recognized tribes running autonomous communities means that any sin we have committed against the natives makes us worse at ethnic cleansing compared to Japan.

Remember, this is about Agonyandirony’s comment.

...wat?

 

[tonni]

...wat?

The usa has tried to make things right

 

[Prokofievian]

What did the Redskins end up changing their name to anyhow?

 

[BEER]

What did the Redskins end up changing their name to anyhow?

Washington Football Team

 

[Prokofievian]

Washington Football Team

Go Football Teams!