War Room Lounge v166: It's the classical freedom FROM gussets vs freedom OF gussets conundrum.

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AgonyandIrony said:
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That isn't an invite for an explanation by the way.
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Somehow it’s Japan’s fault.
 
Andy Capp said:
I'm not sure who you're trying to convince here. There's no question of whether I like "it" or not. I already disavowed a personal contribution to the topic and all that may be true; I'm only passing on what the people of Japan in general seem to think according to my wife, or at the very least, her own more or less informed opinion as a native born citizen of that country. Could her view be influenced or misled by biased or inaccurate reporting? Sure, of course as can anyone. I don't have a way to verify one way or the other. But I don't see anything here that's a good argument for why Japan needs to act in anything other than self-defense, though I grant I know pretty much nothing about the Japanese constitution that I didn't learn from my wife. Regardless, the thought of changing the constitution in that manner seems to send chills down the spine of everyday Japanese.
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Their constitution is the oldest, unamended one in the world. Maybe its due for an update.

Besides if the idea is so unpopular how does the LDF keep getting electing? Of course their electoral success can be reconciled with the unpopularity of constitutional amendment if the other parties are unpopular for some other reason or the LDF is popular despite its aim to change the constitution rather than because of it.
 
Falsedawn said:
Philo made so many shitty threads that he changed his name from fonzob1 because he got dunked on so often.

Remember the thread where he got killed so hard he changed the entire title and OP like 100 posts in? Classic.
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Very heavy dunning kruger in that one. Most guys with a philosophy/old smart guy AV suffer from it.
 
Kaliph of Kush said:
Their constitution is the oldest, unamended one in the world. Maybe its due for an update.

Besides if the idea is so unpopular how does the LDF keep getting electing? Of course their electoral success can be reconciled with the unpopularity of constitutional amendment if the other parties are unpopular for some other reason or the LDF is popular despite its aim to change the constitution rather than because of it.
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Part of it as I understand from my mom is:
“They haven’t don’t anything terrible that cause us to melt down yet so why not let them keep running the ship”
 
Kaliph of Kush said:
Maybe there is no Woodley stupor, maybe he just got exposed.

Or that. Happy to see the Woodley era in the rear view mirror. That said I'll be rooting for him against Colby.

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I have a weird relationship with Woodley. I was real high on him very early in his career because fo his wrestling background but kind of wrote him off as a top contender after Marquardt fucked him up. Thought it was a great style matchup for Woodley same for Shields. He won me back by smoking Koscheck and beating Condit before the injury.
 
Woodley complains too much, and is a horrible rapper. Wonderboy won IMO
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
I have a weird relationship with Woodley. I was real high on him very early in his career because fo his wrestling background but kind of wrote him off as a top contender after Marquardt fucked him up. Thought it was a great style matchup for Woodley same for Shields. He won me back by smoking Koscheck and beating Condit before the injury.
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I was never a fan. A good wrestler with a strong right hand? Effective but at the same time, yawn.

Then he just rubbed me the wrong way with his personality. He begged for a title shot while on a two fight winning streak and taking like a year off, saying the sport should be about merit and that he deserves it. He had an okay claim to it but he was hardly the consensus #1 contender.

Then when he wins the belt he immediately tries to duck Wonderboy and get a fight with Nick Diaz who hadn't won a fight in years at that point. His whole title reign he was trying to duck the #1 contender and jockey for a "money fight" with someone like Diaz or Conor or Bisping. He seems like a good guy if you get to know him personally but as a fighter and a public personality he's cringe at best, annoying at worst.
 
Kaliph of Kush said:
Their constitution is the oldest, unamended one in the world. Maybe its due for an update.

Besides if the idea is so unpopular how does the LDF keep getting electing? Of course their electoral success can be reconciled with the unpopularity of constitutional amendment if the other parties are unpopular for some other reason or the LDF is popular despite its aim to change the constitution rather than because of it.
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Again, don't expect me to be too knowledgeable about this (although the internet tells me its LDP, just for the record) but that is clearly only one issue among many and I was talking about Abe's unpopularity with my wife and those whom she knows back in Japan, so I can't answer your question about the party in general. Their support does wane significantly depending upon circumstances so they're not totally monolithic and that could well be the case now and why Abe stepped down--I haven't seen any polls so I can't say, but an article I saw suggested he couldn't reconcile his own self-belief with his lack of popularity with the public. He's had a couple of scandals recently but doesn't seem to be the slightest bit repentant, so there's that also.

But again, I only wanted to put a bug in your ear about possible disagreement among many Japanese with your assessment of Abe. In any case, from what I heard it sounds like he was replaced by someone nice and dull and safe to caretake the office until the next election, so nothing radical is likely to happen anytime soon. Poor Japanese might get a little more help from the government to get past the COVID crisis, I hope, but that's about it, I expect.
 
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Kaliph of Kush said:
I was never a fan. A good wrestler with a strong right hand? Effective but at the same time, yawn.

Then he just rubbed me the wrong way with his personality. He begged for a title shot while on a two fight winning streak and taking like a year off, saying the sport should be about merit and that he deserves it. He had an okay claim to it but he was hardly the consensus #1 contender.

Then when he wins the belt he immediately tries to duck Wonderboy and get a fight with Nick Diaz who hadn't won a fight in years at that point. His whole title reign he was trying to duck the #1 contender and jockey for a "money fight" with someone like Diaz or Conor or Bisping. He seems like a good guy if you get to know him personally but as a fighter and a public personality he's cringe at best, annoying at worst.
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The issue I had with Woodley definitely started after he won the belt. The constant jockeying for super fights just got to me.

His style change after the first Wonderboy was what really cracked me though. Guy would PUT HIS OWN BACK against the cage and just circle. It was rough to watch.

It’s the one time where I’ve agreed with Dana:
“We don’t market you cause we can’t. You’re not fun to watch anymore”
 
Gregolian said:
The issue I had with Woodley definitely started after he won the belt. The constant jockeying for super fights just got to me.

His style change after the first Wonderboy was what really cracked me though. Guy would PUT HIS OWN BACK against the cage and just circle. It was rough to watch.

It’s the one time where I’ve agreed with Dana:
“We don’t market you cause we can’t. You’re not fun to watch anymore”
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He always had that style and it has its benefits. If he shoots for a takedown and gets it he has his opponent out in the middle of the ring which takes away the cage for wall walking. It can also bait his opponents into throwing at him which can give him the opportunity to find that big counter shot. But I think after a while people wised up to it and became cautious in attacking him when he was there and Woodley just didn't have many tools to force the fight. Till got impatient after a dull first round and came at him only to get knocked down and ultimately tapped. But Wonderboy was a bit more cautious which led to the boring fight. Usman and Burns were able to find ways to safely strike and enter the clinch which shut down his counter and given that Woodley never had great clinch wrestling and was content to wait with his back to the fence they could cook him there and look for strikes and takedowns.
 
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Kaliph of Kush said:
He always had that style and it has its benefits. If he shoots for a takedown and gets it he has his opponent out in the middle of the ring which takes away the cage for wall walking. It can also bait his opponents into throwing at him which can give him the opportunity to find that big counter shot. But I think after a while people wised up to it and became cautious in attacking him when he was there and Woodley just didn't have many tools to force the fight. Till got impatient after a dull first round and came at him only to get knocked down and ultimately tapped. But Wonderboy was a bit more cautious which led to the boring fight. Usman and Burns were able to find ways to safely strike and enter the clinch which shut down his counter and given that Woodley never had great clinch wrestling and was content to wait with his back to the fence they could cook him there and look for strikes and takedowns.
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His style worries me against Colby who is a grinding type wrestler where he is content to pin your ass against the cage, drag you down, then just ride you out for 5 rounds.

I can’t stand Colby but my faith in Woodley isn’t all that high anymore. As @PolishHeadlock2 mentioned, he is almost 40
 
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