War Room Lounge v153: Without Floyd it's an amazing sport.

[Prokofievian]

In paper it wouldn't be.

PART of the reason the NATO countries moved from .30 caliber firearms during Vietnam to what is now referred to as 5.56 is yes, you can carry more of it than .30 cause it's lighter.

But the way it interacts with the body is different. A 30-06 will punch a whole in a person and leave a pretty tunnel like wound track. A 5.56 is so small and has so much force behind it when it hits a body it punches in and the force transfers to the body and leaves a MASSIVE temporary cavity because of a small projectile traveling as fast as it does hitting a body made up of lots of water and shit that transfers energy.

Plenty of the ballistic gel vids show the temporary cavity.

In paper, the fibres are quite weak and can't transfer very much energy to their adjacent fibres. But the fibres that did get hit by the projectile directly would have more energy transferred to them.

 

[Prokofievian]

But wouldn’t the impact force be relatively small if the projectile is small enough? A human body would seem to be a lot less rigid of a surface in comparison to a spacecraft. It makes sense for a spacecraft.

Only one way to find out!

 

[Gregolian]

I’m just wondering if there’s a “ceiling”, a cutoff point where the velocity doesn’t make much difference anymore. I’m thinking about it now and vaporization does seem the answer.

There's certainly a point with firearms where the size of the projectile legit becomes overkill. The .50 cal while fun to shoot random shit with was developed by Browning as an anti-material/vehicle round. History Channel did a special about the worlds longest sniper shots and talked about one some Canadian sniper took with a .50 and how at the distance it was and shit it would basically turn any human it hit into hamburger.

 

[Gregolian]

In paper, the fibres are quite weak and can't transfer very much energy to their adjacent fibres. But the fibres that did get hit by the projectile directly would have more energy transferred to them.

Well, shooting paper the paper tends to look "burned" where the bullet hits. When I was younger I used to think it was like the powder that was still somehow with the bullet burning but when I was older I realized it was the bullet transferring heat to the paper essentially burning it while it went through.

 

[tonni]

Only one way to find out!

I’m almost tempted to come to Holland.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Well this doesn't look good.

 

[Gregolian]

Well this doesn't look good.

Fuck.

That's really all I got.

 

[tonni]

Fuck.

That's really all I got.

I’m hoping she’s just hiding. “Just”.

 

[Sketch]

Care to elaborate?

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-to-reexamine-nicknames-for-cosmic-objects

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Fucking Nostradamus over here.

 

[sickc0d3r]

WE ARE ONE MONTH AWAY FROM THE NFL BEING BACK!!! (Yes I'm optimistic)

That said.... WHO'S UP FOR WAR ROOM FANTASY FOOTBALL SEASON 2?!?

Last year was a hard fought battle, were we saw the red and blue blooded Americans almost unanimously squash the pitiful kneelers.

@Broke Lester was our innagural champion followed by @MMAisGod in 2nd and @HockeyBjj in 3rd. @sickc0d3r was the best performing from the lefty division at 4th. @Trotsky followed at 5th then @Gregolian and poor @Lowmanproblems in 7th who had to play in the big boy's conservative division. @zebby23 , @PolishHeadlock2 , and finally @kpt018 rounded out the kiddie table liberal side.

We'd also like to bump up the number of teams from 10 to 12, and poor @zebby23 passed away during the offseason (I hear his ghost may yet be around to still play). @AnGrYcRoW I know you showed interest before, any other loungers or war roomers like to join? No money, just bragging rights and smack talk. Loser has to wear an avatar chosen by the victor/league from the end of the fantasy football season until after the Superbowl. @kpt018 had a very sexy Ted Cruz pink unicorn avatar announcing boldly that he did indeed suck at fantasy football.

Returners, quote or PM me if you're still in to play. Anyone new, quote and preferably PM as well so that I don't risk losing you or missing someone. Platform is Yahoo. I'll probably edit this post here for a roll call to keep track.

Hockey in. Crow in. Greg in. Broke in. Polish in. KPT in. Trotsky in. Cubicle G in.

I’m in

 

[HockeyBjj]

I’m in

Welcome back the only decent liberal in fantasy football

 

[Trotsky]

How can there be no drag in the body trotsky..l

I'm probably not using that phrase perfectly. I just mean that the projectile doesn't flatten, splinter, etc. but rather remains static through the entire process of penetration. Obviously if a projectile can flatten/widen itself limitlessly, there is no limit to the excess damage.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Fucking Nostradamus over here.

Legit loled. God damn Megan Thee Stallion in that video tho.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yeah, I get them at the grocery store but generally they aren't near the same quality you would get if you bought locally. They dont ripen as well or have the same aroma and flavor be cause they were shipped over "green".

Preach, brother. My wife was saying the same thing about strawberries. PEI strawberries are truly excellent, but they'd be better anyway than imported ones because they're allowed to ripen naturally before harvesting.

 

[Andy Capp]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-to-reexamine-nicknames-for-cosmic-objects

Meh. It's taxonomy. It's arbitrary to begin with so it should be of no real significance to anyone not particularly offended by any name in particular because why should anyone give a shit what they call it otherwise?

 

[Prokofievian]

@Lead

Your country is a failed state.

 

[Gregolian]

I'm probably not using that phrase perfectly. I just mean that the projectile doesn't flatten, splinter, etc. but rather remains static through the entire process of penetration. Obviously if a projectile can flatten/widen itself limitlessly, there is no limit to the excess damage.

So you basically are talking non-frangible ball ammo, essentially what most people use to go target shooting with.

 

[Trotsky]

So you basically are talking non-frangible ball ammo, essentially what most people use to go target shooting with.

Oh hey, look at me, I'm Greg, I use words like frangible and perfunctory.

But yeah. Although I presume that all bullets realistically do flatten at some level of force

 

[Andy Capp]

They have different kinetic energies. Kinetic energy is 1/2 m v^2. You get that from the definition of kinetic energy, being the amount of work done to accelerate the object to the velocity v. When the bullet hits the object, if it penetrates or not, there is still a reaction from the body that it is penetrating which is proportional to the impact force, which is proportional to the kinetic energy. So yes, it causes a lot more damage. If you shot someone with a projectile that had enough energy, they'd vapourize. IIRC, Nasa has a gun to test what happens when little space particles strike satellites and space craft at orbital velocities (several miles per second), and the answer is the spacecraft often vapourizes.

Take this as a practical example: do a belly flop from 3 feet, and then do a belly flop from 9 feet. You are penetrating the water in both cases, but the water does a lot more damage to you when you jump from 9 feet than if you jump from 3 feet.

Which according to Newton, means there is an equal and opposite force acting as well, so in the case of something mooshy hitting water it's the mooshy thing that gets mooshed, but when the metal thing hits the mooshy thing, it's the mooshy thing again that gets mooshed. I thought it worth pointing out since your example is mathematically equivalent but not circumstantially equivalent. And I might be high and this may be a totally useless contribution, c'est la vie. Can't contribute if you don't try.