War Room Lounge v148: all tip and no shaft

[Islam Imamate]

I've seen tigers hunt crocodiles by the way, it's fascinating. I'm way more scared of a tiger than of a bear, but a fully grown polar bear? They're cannibals too.

In person? That would be cool. Betting you mean on video and if so so have I. To be fair the largest crocs don't have overlapping territory with tigers(Saltwater crocs in Austrailia are the largest followed by Nile crocs in Africa). Still impressive. Have you seen this? Jaguars hunting caiman in the water.

 

[Fawlty]

The utter gorilla dismissal here is both personal and vapid.

 

[Trotsky]

They have the whole story for that down though. Mentioning how he wouldn’t make eye contact with Hughes, talking up how he was such a huge deal for him. I don’t really care if it did or didn’t. I agree with MMA, there’s always some type of excuse for a lose. I understand why fighters need that but fans and commentators feed into what they say too much. A loss is a loss and a win is a win. There’s some technicalities or ones that need some context (Hamil/Jones) but I’m not going to regularly carry the excuses those guys give. I think that’s why a lot of people hated Penn fans in the heavies. They would frequently write off every loss to the point where they acted he was undefeated. Even the second Pierre fight, I think there was grease gate. Just a complete refusal of admitting the guy was mortal.

I've never seen evidence of a choke artist in MMA, and I tend to think it's not a thing. Maybe Chael Sonnen?

But it definitely exists in ball sports. Brett Favre is the GOAT example. These are his performances in Green Bay's final playoff games in each season:

2001: 5 INT in divisionsals in STL
2002: franchise's first ever home playoff loss with a 54.4 passer rating performance vs. Atlanta in Wild Card
2003: season-ending interception in OT in Philly in divisionals
2004: 4 INT vs. Minnesota in Wild Card
(Missed playoffs in 2005-2006)
2007: season-ending INT vs. NYG in Conference Championship

Then he goes to the Vikings...

2009: season-ending INT vs. NO in Conference Championship

 

[tonni]

In person? That would be cool. Betting you mean on video and if so so have I. To be fair the largest crocs don't have overlapping territory with tigers(Saltwater crocs in Austrailia are the largest followed by Nile crocs in Africa). Still impressive. Have you seen this? Jaguars hunting caiman in the water.

I was called in for questioning, they said no other being here is capable of killing those crocs now confess.

I showed them this video, they had to let me go.

 

[tonni]

The utter gorilla dismissal here is both personal and vapid.

Go thump your chest, angry boy.

 

[Fawlty]

Go thump your chest, angry boy.

Roll around with your pet rats and get abducted by a cannibal.

 

[irish_thug]

Worst lounge thread ever imo.

Not even close

 

[irish_thug]

The utter gorilla dismissal here is both personal and vapid.

Gorillas are cans. All gym muscles, no technique.

 

[Fawlty]

Gorillas are cans. All gym muscles, no technique.

You people need Jesus and Dian Fossey.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I've never seen evidence of a choke artist in MMA, and I tend to think it's not a thing. Maybe Chael Sonnen?

But it definitely exists in ball sports. Brett Favre is the GOAT example. These are his performances in Green Bay's final playoff games in each season:

2001: 5 INT in divisionsals in STL
2002: franchise's first ever home playoff loss with a 54.4 passer rating performance vs. Atlanta in Wild Card
2003: season-ending interception in OT in Philly in divisionals
2004: 4 INT vs. Minnesota in Wild Card
(Missed playoffs in 2005-2006)
2007: season-ending INT vs. NYG in Conference Championship

Then he goes to the Vikings...

2009: season-ending INT vs. NO in Conference Championship

That's obviously not how one would seriously attempt to answer the question. "Here's a guy. Let me list some bad/good moments in important situations with no broad context. Theory proved!"

Aaron Schatz took a look at the question in 2009:

http://insider.espn.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4502503

Baseball analysts have generally dispelled the idea of the clutch hitter, a player who routinely raises his game in late and close situations. Now it's time to retire the myth of the clutch quarterback. We looked both at conventional NFL passer rating and our advanced metrics, and there was no year-to-year correlation in the difference between a quarterback's overall performance and his performance when the game was on the line. It apparently matters not that clutch situations in the NFL feature an element that baseball players don't have to worry about: clock management. Bad QBs overall, such as Kyle Orton, are bad in the clutch. Good QBs overall, such as Ben Roethlisberger, are good in the clutch. Same goes for backs and receivers.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Also, another example of confidence being a problem there, IMO. The level of unquestioned faith in one's own observation skills, memory, and lack of bias required to make a grand pronouncement like that with no systematic data to back it up is unfathomable to me. It's like when people trust their sense of the mood of a state over polling or all the posts in the stocks thread.

 

[Fawlty]

Also, another example of confidence being a problem there, IMO. The level of unquestioned faith in one's own observation skills, memory, and lack of bias required to make a grand pronouncement like that with no systematic data to back it up is unfathomable to me. It's like when people trust their sense of the mood of a state over polling or all the posts in the stocks thread.

For a while, I thought that this behavior was because people are attracted to certain narratives, especially the one of the ideal person who magically overcomes the odds because of his hero aura.

But the more of these things I see in action or notice in my own thinking, the more I suspect it's just because people are superstitious and a bit stupid.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Yes, I said grizzly bear, but I interpreted his comment as meaning bears in general. At that point, I decided to go in for the kill and bring up the largest polar bear ever. The beast weighed 1000 kg's. That's enormous.

Polar bears now ?

Can I go sabertooth then ?

 

[Sketch]

I thought Batman Begins was pretty good. I loved Memento and the Prestige, but the Dark Knight and Inception were just awful, and I haven't seen anything by Nolan since.

Didn’t like the dark night lmao

 

[JDragon]

That's obviously not how one would seriously attempt to answer the question. "Here's a guy. Let me list some bad/good moments in important situations with no broad context. Theory proved!"

Aaron Schatz took a look at the question in 2009:

http://insider.espn.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4502503

I do remember this article about Jordan:

 

[PalmaSoriano]

Alexdb back again lol , he came back last week got banned , joined back yesterday and had cards already lol

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...esults-are-fake.4122998/page-7#post-161132760

Not really to any of that but I have to nice so I can’t write what I want to this post so instead here’s a beautiful pic I took before the rona to bring calm...call it my way of extending peace. I’m back cause I’m in quarantine for 2 weeks so hey nothing much to do but workout, hit the pool, watch some baseball and fights... and Sherdog

Cheers!

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Also, another example of confidence being a problem there, IMO. The level of unquestioned faith in one's own observation skills, memory, and lack of bias required to make a grand pronouncement like that with no systematic data to back it up is unfathomable to me. It's like when people trust their sense of the mood of a state over polling or all the posts in the stocks thread.

I think everyone should do a bit of reading on how unreliable first hand accounts can be and memory in general

Malcolm Gladwell delved into this topic

http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/23-a-polite-word-for-liar-memory-part-1

 

[JDragon]

I thought Batman Begins was pretty good. I loved Memento and the Prestige, but the Dark Knight and Inception were just awful, and I haven't seen anything by Nolan since.

 

[Sara]

Christian Bale + Michael Caine + Christopher Nolan = outstanding movie. Always.

Again the only 'bad' Batman movie (and if I’m browsing and come across it on tv, guess what? I still watch it) is Batman and Robin with George Clooney.

 

[Sketch]

A part of me thinks the gorilla would just take the bears back and choke them out

A tiger would wreck both btw

Gorilla are actually massive pussies. Even when they fight amongst themselves (I’m talking silverbacks so the real deal) they kind of slap at each other and lots of running away trying fients as well. They are not predators and they are mostly docile. Bears are incredibly intelligent and massive. A grizzly bear is about 3 times the size of a gorilla and it’s an apex predator threat even guns sometimes lose too. A bears claws would disembowel a gorilla. The bear also has an incredible grappling game. A bears thick hide is basically armour as well and they have incredible bite force. Interestingly enough gorilla have one of the strongest bite forces on the planet.