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War Room Lounge v146: Federal Goon used "Bludgeon"! But it's not that effective...

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Higus said:
Just report them, dude.
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Who says I don't?

Speaking of....

Actually Floyd’s action have directly resulted in the deaths of a shit ton of black men in the last month or so.
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PolishHeadlock2 said:
Holy shit Colbert interviewed the Lawyer who tried to kill the Epstein judge back in the day.


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Big fan of the opinion in the tweet. I remember in 2007 when I had a college professor talk about how powerful a social tool he believed the new wave of political satire to be in fighting ignorance. Even as a college freshman, I strongly disagreed.
 
@Fawlty Elizabeth hows the family member doing? Progress made in the hospital and looking to avoid ICU or even come home with instructions for monitoring soonish I hope?
 
Kafir-kun said:
Couldn't disagree more, fighting tyranny is absolutely a legitimate reason to own a gun. Consider the case of Breonna Taylor who was wrongfully killed in a no knock raid. Her boyfriend got into a shoot out with the police as a result, if he wasn't armed he could very well have been killed himself. That's not the only case of a citizen defending themselves in a no knock raid and probably not the last. Or consider the open carry protests when compared to the protests that don't, notice which tend to find themselves on the receiving end of some rubber bullets and tear gas. I don't think that's an accident.

I really find it odd that leftists scoff at the idea of defending oneself from government tyranny as if its some wild hypothetical scenario and not something that has played out over and over again in American history. The problem is when people say "government tyranny" they usually imagine some totalitarian government sending tank columns through the streets of America. But more often than not government tyranny in America has been at the local or state level. I mean if Jim Crow isn't government tyranny then I don't know what is. I'm not saying guns are the best form of resistence to that kind of tyranny, it wasn't an armed insurgency that ended Jim Crow after all. But on an individual level having a gun can mean the difference between being tried by 12 or buried by 6.
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Man, we're really not seeing eye-to-eye. You really think Taylor's bf survived BECAUSE he shot at the cops? No-knock raids are shit but the police don't actually break into your house and literally shoot everything that moves. They break in with itchy fingers, shout some orders, and then start shooting at the slightest sign of resistance or non-compliance. Taylor died because her bf started shooting at the cops and the fired back. He just got lucky he didn't get hit.

And you're right that Jim Crow wasn't ended by fear of armed citizens killing too many cops, but by protesting, education, demonstrations, etc. The current BLM movement is likely going to create reform but not because citizens are shooting it out with the cops but because of the mass demonstrations that have taken place.

Guns to fight for freedom are needed in very precarious democracies and civil war situations. So yeah, it's great that the Kurds have arms, same with any other group that was fighting ISIS when it started spreading. But in Western democracies, rights are won on the streets, classrooms, congress and so on.
 
Kafir-kun said:
I don't know much about it but I think it stands out because even for a city it seems fairly liberal and yet Oregon's rural forests are home to white nationalist skin head types. So the state has some hyper polarization even by 2020 standards.
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Oregon is a bit wild in some ways.

There's a culture clash because it was always a logging state (so was Washington), and Portland attracted money and business because it's a solid port.

The logging population ranged from nazi to anarchist, and you had tons of people who are broadly speaking gun-toting, pothead, redneck liberals.

And then an infusion of Californians whose values clashed with the more right-wing elements. Still not totally settled.
 
Built an entertainment center today.

Instructions said it should take 30 minutes to complete.

Took about 30 minutes to complete.

I. AM. A. GOD.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
Man, we're really not seeing eye-to-eye. You really think Taylor's bf survived BECAUSE he shot at the cops? No-knock raids are shit but the police don't actually break into your house and literally shoot everything that moves. They break in with itchy fingers, shout some orders, and then start shooting at the slightest sign of resistance or non-compliance. Taylor died because her bf started shooting at the cops and the fired back. He just got lucky he didn't get hit.

And you're right that Jim Crow wasn't ended by fear of armed citizens killing too many cops, but by protesting, education, demonstrations, etc. The current BLM movement is likely going to create reform but not because citizens are shooting it out with the cops but because of the mass demonstrations that have taken place.

Guns to fight for freedom are needed in very precarious democracies and civil war situations. So yeah, it's great that the Kurds have arms, same with any other group that was fighting ISIS when it started spreading. But in Western democracies, rights are won on the streets, classrooms, congress and so on.
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To be fair I didn't know the details of the case. But some cops do seem shoot anything that moves when they perform a no knock raid, they almost as a rule execute any family pets that they see. And people have defended themselves with guns against such raids and won in court, happened at least twice off the top of my head. As far as I am concerned that's defense against tyranny.

I'm not arguing that an armed insurgency in America is a good idea but I am saying on an individual level guns can help resist tyranny. I agree that rights are won through things like protests but open carry can help with that. Like I said you never see open carry protestors being roughed up by police, that's no accident.

In Western democracies tyranny often doesn't come from the top, it comes from rogue government officials trying to push the boundaries. At that level a gun can make all the difference.
 
HockeyBjj said:
@Fawlty Elizabeth hows the family member doing? Progress made in the hospital and looking to avoid ICU or even come home with instructions for monitoring soonish I hope?
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Still avoiding ICU. There are lots of moving parts: heart irregularities, double bacterial pneumonia, and viral Covid inflammation. It's hour-by-hour. Heart is under control for now, and pneumonia seems to be improving. Covid inflammation is still a major problem.

Could be anywhere from 3 days to a month, since recovery is so complex. Thanks for asking man.
 
Fawlty Elizabeth said:
Still avoiding ICU. There are lots of moving parts: heart irregularities, double bacterial pneumonia, and viral Covid inflammation. It's hour-by-hour. Heart is under control for now, and pneumonia seems to be improving. Covid inflammation is still a major problem.

Could be anywhere from 3 days to a month, since recovery is so complex. Thanks for asking man.
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Glad to hear still not needing ICU. Yeah, that inflammatory bodily response to the viral infection is a bitch. Glad the regular hospital unit is able to keep things under control. That’s a great sign to not be needing the intensive teams.
 
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