WAR ROOM LOUNGE V13: Ministry of Silly Talks

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Fawlty said:
I wouldn't waste a chainsaw blade letting him run into it. Do you have any idea what a femur can do to anything less than a 45cc Husqvarna?

Mercy is sometimes best not for moral reasons, but economic ones.
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I've been feelin kinda squirrely today. Thought I could maybe get some mileage out of him.
 
Fawlty said:
I wouldn't waste a chainsaw blade letting him run into it. Do you have any idea what a femur can do to anything less than a 45cc Husqvarna?

Mercy is sometimes best not for moral reasons, but economic ones.
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Another one of my sons chiming in?
 
Trotsky said:
...and to a black man about African American culture
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Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots. His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots. His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
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It's not as if we don't have a years-long record to evaluate. Just sayin'. It's not like Pan has his black guy cred reset every time there's a server backup.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots. His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
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Yeah but leftists only see skin color.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots.
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It was Yorkist who termed "black culture" as the subject of analysis and then said that Panamaican was in denial about it, as analogous to Limbo being in denial about Native culture. So Yorkist made the presumption of Pan being linked to the culture in some way, but not understanding it.

His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
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I don't know who you're talking about. Panamaican, I presume? I have no idea about his personal life story, but I highly (highly) doubt that @Yorkist is in a position to condescend to him about "black culture" or to comment at all about the disposition of the black community. I don't know Gutter Chris.
 
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Trotsky said:
It was Yorkist who termed "black culture" as the subject of analysis and then said that Panamaican was in denial about it,
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If black culture exists then he is in denial about it. Source is me asking if he thought black culture existed and he said it didn't. Or he's right. Not my problem.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots. His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
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Trotsky said:
I don't know Gutter Chris.
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Weve met

I think Cubo is getting at the fact that Im white but ghetto raised and it gives me a strange perspective on race. Im white so Im not black but im ghetto so im not white but im not a wigger who picked it up to shock my parents its just how I grew up and what my normal was

On the phone you might not even know you were speaking to a white guy

i have a lot of issues with racial identity issues

I think culture has a lot less to do with who your ancestors were and a lot more to do with where you live and who you spend time with and what reality looks like to you when you walk out your door in the morning.

My dad was in and out of jail and never around

my mom raised me but was never around due to long hours

My little friends were thugs and many went on to die or go to jail

stealing and violence and gunshots were normal everyday things

ive been beat up by police and wrongfully arrested

I know exactly what its like to apply for a job when you cant speak correctly have no education and your address says everything the mother fucker across the desk from you needs to know about you

But I have been hearing the last few years all of a sudden how I somehow had a privilege , that Im not allowed to speak the language where I come from because out of me its somehow offensive and not genuine , and that I could never understand a certain kind of persons life plight viewpoint or struggles .
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
If black culture exists then he is in denial about it. Source is me asking if he thought black culture existed and he said it didn't. Or he's right. Not my problem.
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Okay, that's kind of a different topic - and one that isn't easily teased out. I'm personally of the persuasion that I do think, or rather am open to conceding that, a near endless amount of cultures can and do exist at any time within a national community, along ethnic, geographic, and economic lines. I'm also sympathetic to the notion (and I'm putting words into Pan's mouth here, perhaps) that terming something as "black culture" is altogether spurious and a bit of a misnomer since it is not underpinned by the color of skin at all, but rather by ethnic history, by demography, by community that evolved in concentrated, largely-urban, largely-impoverished communities - and has not been exclusively created or maintained by black persons, and does not apply to or represent every person who is of Sub Saharan African descent.
 
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Gutter Chris said:
Weve met

I think Cubo is getting at the fact that Im white but ghetto raised and it gives me a strange perspective on race.
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Exactly. And great post. You're a wise man and an asset to the board.


Trotsky said:
Okay, that's kind of a different topic - and one that isn't easily teased out. I'm personally of the persuasion that I do think, or rather am open to conceding that, a near endless amount of cultures can and do exist at any time within a national community, along ethnic, geographic, and economic lines. I'm also sympathetic to the notion (and I'm putting words into Pan's mouth here, perhaps) that terming something as "black culture" is altogether spurious and a bit of a misnomer since it is not underpinned by the color of skin at all, but rather by ethnic history, by demography, by community that evolved in concentrated, largely-urban, largely-impoverished communities - and has not been exclusively created or maintained by black persons.
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Personally I don't care which stance someone takes so long as the arguments are consistent from topic to topic. Culture is similarities shared by whatever population you're selecting. Not gonna profess to know in scientific terms where that threshold is for what percentage of x have to exhibit Y is (in order for it to achieve culture status). Some shit's gonna be true and some's gonna be overblown.

It can't be denied that genetics are a part of culture. People have tended to breed withing their societies. So skin color isn't definitive, but it's an aspect. And while it's not a genetic cause for anything else, that doesn't mean it's immune from being associated with things that might happen in more or less frequency than other populations.
 
Yorkist said:
To be fair, Pan is as in denial about black culture....
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Yeah, that must be it.

More seriously, I see a broader cross section of black culture than many so I know that the obsession with highlighting the negative elements and experiences misses a significant amount of what's going on in the community.
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Not all blacks in America have the same cultural roots. His family recently came from elsewhere and is of high socio-economic status. Didn't marry into it either. As far as the problems go when "black culture" is described around here, I bet plenty of white guys like @Gutter Chris have far more insightful experience. Just sayin'.
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The problem was that Cable said he'd trust the words of "actual black people" over Pan's. Throughout the discussion, Pan never went there until Cable brought it up.
 
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