• Xenforo is upgrading us to version 2.3.7 on Tuesday Aug 19, 2025 at 01:00 AM BST (date has been pushed). This upgrade includes several security fixes among other improvements. Expect a temporary downtime during this process. More info here

War Room Lounge v121: Chess can definitely make your brain hurt lol

Status
Not open for further replies.
That's "Hit Girl", Chloe Grace Moretz.

She had a very disturbing following around here, after "Kick Ass" dropped. Like an "FBI should be notified" kind of following. It's kind of odd, that that particular "following" disappeared once she grew up.

It's weird though, because even the movie itself had a bizarre line in it, where one of the characters proclaims that he's in love with her, and another guy chimes in with "Well, she's like 11", to which it was met with "I don't care dude, I can wait!"

It's like even the filmmakers knew she had a "certain" appeal.

Yeah, that's real fucking weird. I don't know if it's the same in Canada, but the ambivalence toward age-of-consent issues in American law/culture is super fucked up. Like....if a 17 year old gets caught having sex with his 15 year old girlfriend, every Facebook rube is tripping over themselves to demand he be castrated, executed without trial, etc. Meanwhile, pornographic and non-pornographic media alike fetishize underage characteristics, millionaires get attaboys for dating 18 year olds when they're 50, and shit like that.
 
That's "Hit Girl", Chloe Grace Moretz.

She had a very disturbing following around here, after "Kick Ass" dropped. Like an "FBI should be notified" kind of following. It's kind of odd, that that particular "following" disappeared once she grew up.

It's weird though, because even the movie itself had a bizarre line in it, where one of the characters proclaims that he's in love with her, and another guy chimes in with "Well, she's like 11", to which it was met with "I don't care dude, I can wait!"

It's like even the filmmakers knew she had a "certain" appeal.
Ffs even :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes have no class these days.
While we're shaming, I'm pretty sure you once admitted telling a girl it was ok to starfish because she was hot.
How is that a verb and do I want to know
 
Yeah, that's real fucking weird. I don't know if it's the same in Canada, but the ambivalence toward age-of-consent issues in American law/culture is super fucked up. Like....if a 17 year old gets caught having sex with his 15 year old girlfriend, every Facebook rube is tripping over themselves to demand he be castrated, executed without trial, etc. Meanwhile, pornographic and non-pornographic media alike fetishize underage characteristics, millionaires get attaboys for dating 18 year olds when they're 50, and shit like that.

I think most places have some irrational leeway when it comes to this stuff. Nobody bats an eye at "barely legal" porn, where the girls are dressing up as school girls, and whatnot. It's played off as "role playing". Nobody wants to connect the dots, until it's too late. It's some weird psychosis, where unless it's blatantly illegal and you're told so, people just kind of brush it off. And if it's not technically illegal, the suggestion that it should be is met with resistance from the "freedom bros".

Just look at baby pageants, or tranny kids. All that shit should be illegal, but since it's not, we have to have some stupid debate over whether or not it's okay. It's fucking not okay, and I don't need the media or politicians to tell me so. That's just me though...unfortunately.
 
95967228_10156884658675689_7841233290211098624_n.jpg
 
Of course, any communist in history will have the negative aspects of their legacy exaggerated to the very edge of believability. I actually think Mao is the most slandered major communist in this regard, though, since he didn't personally preside over the mass non-ideological terror that Stalin did. Mao's purges were generally nonviolent and the violence that he incited (instead of centrally supervising) generally held more ideological color than Stalin's purely power-based ravaging of Soviet society and government. For Mao, nearly all of the deaths attributed to him are both spurious and non-direct: spurious because they intersect with naturally occurring famines and indirect because they result from either (a) ill-crafted policies not designed to kill and (b) the actions of other people.

Stalin, on the other hand....I actually do consider him at least the level of monster as Hitler. In my opinion, Hitler was mostly just what most conservatives are at their core: an incoherent reactionary who would gladly use hatred of minority social groups to compound political power, after which he would only effectuate the hatred to the extent that circumstances allow/demand. Stalin went wildly out of his way to brutalize people almost at random, and the violence was solely self-serving and completely non-(or even anti-)ideological.

I see where you're coming from, but I think that it's worth considering that the Nazis put a whole lot of effort into killing as many jews as they could even after it became apparent the war was lost. The time, energy and resources that went into taking the Final Solution as far as possible were a major priority. The overarching need to kill as many jews as possible, regardless of circumstance, resource, or effects on the State, is one of the features that separates them from Italian facism, for example, and gives an insight into their execution of a root premise. Stalin was random, belligerent, and way more whacko about who and what he targeted, but Hitler never stopped wanting and trying to kill all the jews.
 
I think most places have some irrational leeway when it comes to this stuff. Nobody bats an eye at "barely legal" porn, where the girls are dressing up as school girls, and whatnot. It's played off as "role playing". Nobody wants to connect the dots, until it's too late. It's some weird psychosis, where unless it's blatantly illegal and you're told so, people just kind of brush it off. And if it's not technically illegal, the suggestion that it should be is met with resistance from the "freedom bros".

Just look at baby pageants, or tranny kids. All that shit should be illegal, but since it's not, we have to have some stupid debate over whether or not it's okay. It's fucking not okay, and I don't need the media or politicians to tell me so. That's just me though...unfortunately.

Some of it is law and politics determining culture. Two great examples of that are gay marriage and guns. Within a couple years of a black man becoming president and the GOP spontaneously becoming gun confiscation alarmists, a 20 pt swing in gun control opinions occurred. No events or attempts at policy: just purely as a result of politics. Similarly, within 3 years of the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage, there was a 18 pt swing in gay marriage opinion.

As far as "tranny kids" go, the issue has been butchered beyond all reason. It's generally presented by conservative alarmists as "liberals want to turn little boys into girls and we need to stop them," when in actuality liberals want to give freedom to medical and psychiatric professionals to allow adolescents and their guardians to act in the best interests and by the express will of the child, but subject to stringent medical and legal requirements to safeguard the long-term interests of the child in making decisions of great gravity (and put in place laws that protect those persons from systemic abuse and discrimination). And in effect conservatives want to force said children/parents to defy the child's wishes and interests (and openly incentivize the abuse and discrimination of those persons). So the two positions - what liberals are trying to do and what conservatives what to do instead - are completely misrepresented.
 
Ffs even :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes have no class these days.

How is that a verb and do I want to know
Imagine someone roleplaying as a blow-up doll but without any of the sexuality inherent in roleplay.
 
I see where you're coming from, but I think that it's worth considering that the Nazis put a whole lot of effort into killing as many jews as they could even after it became apparent the war was lost. The time, energy and resources that went into taking the Final Solution as far as possible were a major priority. The overarching need to kill as many jews as possible, regardless of circumstance, resource, or effects on the State, is one of the features that separates them from Italian facism, for example, and gives an insight into their execution of a root premise. Stalin was random, belligerent, and way more whacko about who and what he targeted, but Hitler never stopped wanting and trying to kill all the jews.

Yeah, I'm aware of that (btw Conspiracy is an incredible bottle episode-style movie on the Wannsee Conference using actual notes of the meeting), but I think the Final Solution was largely a product of circumstance and that under other circumstances mass deportation or sterilization (both considered as alternatives) or even reintegration would have been considered - if, for instance, popular forces in Germany demanded it and it was politically expedient for Hitler personally.

More specifically, if Hitler was able to secure power without purging Rohm, et al. and without conducting mass extermination of Jews, I think it's very likely that he would have gone that route, hence why the Night of the Long Knives was a (certainly by Stalin standards) modest purge and why he waited ten years before effectuating the Final Solution.
 
As far as "tranny kids" go, the issue has been butchered beyond all reason. It's generally presented by conservative alarmists as "liberals want to turn little boys into girls and we need to stop them," when in actuality liberals want to give freedom to medical and psychiatric professionals to allow adolescents and their guardians to act in the best interests and by the express will of the child, but subject to stringent medical and legal requirements to safeguard the long-term interests of the child in making decisions of great gravity (and put in place laws that protect those persons from systemic abuse and discrimination).

<{cruzshake}>

Just when we were getting along...

No. Full stop. Those are excuses Liberals use to justify blatant child abuse. If "tranny kids" was a republican thing, you would not be excusing the practice of fucking with children's natural development, and you know it.
 
LOL! ok, had to Google that term.

sounds hilarious AF, but wasn't me. lol
Damn

I've been holding you in contempt for that for a month when I could have been contemptuous about completely different things

Damn, wish I could remember who said that. I just remember being flabbergasted that anyone would tell someone they were attracted to not to try during sex.
 
Damn

I've been holding you in contempt for that for a month when I could have been contemptuous about completely different things

Damn, wish I could remember who said that. I just remember being flabbergasted that anyone would tell someone they were attracted to not to try during sex.
I've done her feigning disinterest as she lays on her stomach. Think Paris Hilton but with much twitchier small muscles. It's kind of nice, though not exactly fetish material.
 
Yeah, I'm aware of that (btw Conspiracy is an incredible bottle episode-style movie on the Wannsee Conference using actual notes of the meeting), but I think the Final Solution was largely a product of circumstance and that under other circumstances mass deportation or sterilization (both considered as alternatives) or even reintegration would have been considered - if, for instance, popular forces in Germany demanded it and it was politically expedient for Hitler personally.

More specifically, if Hitler was able to secure power without purging Rohm, et al. and without conducting mass extermination of Jews, I think it's very likely that he would have gone that route, hence why the Night of the Long Knives was a (certainly by Stalin standards) modest purge and why he waited ten years before effectuating the Final Solution.
You gotta be careful here, though, because if things had been different... yeah, they would have been different. Whichever way we slice it, organized extermination was never convenient, and certainly not on the enormous scale which occurred. The Nazis didn't want to sterilize them all, or send them somewhere else. At the end of the day, any living jew was an abomination and affront to the natural order. It took years of planning, construction, and logistics to develop their process and refine it. Then, they took it absolutely as far as possible when it would have helped their chances of winning the war to move those resources into other areas. I sat through a lecture on this very thing a couple years ago, and it was really fascinating. I'm not a WW2 guy, but the many "whys" surrounding the Final Solution are pretty interesting. The speaker gave a very convincing breakdown of how the Nazis use of escalating extermination wasn't circumstantial, and turns into one of the features we can use to draw distinction between them and other similar forms of government. I wish I had that shit recorded. the fact that they "waited" is in and of itself a pretty big red flag, speaking broadly, when you think about how much time and effort was going into systematically killing all these people while the real threat was driving across Europe.
 
Damn

I've been holding you in contempt for that for a month when I could have been contemptuous about completely different things

Damn, wish I could remember who said that. I just remember being flabbergasted that anyone would tell someone they were attracted to not to try during sex.

don't get me wrong. I've done some k*nky $hit but something like that?

I imagine it would resemble making love to a corpse. not my jam.
 
You gotta be careful here, though, because if things had been different... yeah, they would have been different. Whichever way we slice it, organized extermination was never convenient, and certainly not on the enormous scale which occurred. The Nazis didn't want to sterilize them all, or send them somewhere else. At the end of the day, any living jew was an abomination and affront to the natural order. It took years of planning, construction, and logistics to develop their process and refine it. Then, they took it absolutely as far as possible when it would have helped their chances of winning the war to move those resources into other areas. I sat through a lecture on this very thing a couple years ago, and it was really fascinating. I'm not a WW2 guy, but the many "whys" surrounding the Final Solution are pretty interesting. The speaker gave a very convincing breakdown of how the Nazis use of escalating extermination wasn't circumstantial, and turns into one of the features we can use to draw distinction between them and other similar forms of government. I wish I had that shit recorded. the fact that they "waited" is in and of itself a pretty big red flag, speaking broadly, when you think about how much time and effort was going into systematically killing all these people while the real threat was driving across Europe.

How familiar are you with the internal politics of the Nazi Party and how the Party's initial factions were situated relative to the communists and social democrats? I think the rapid ideological devolution of the Party is really fascinating, but I'm not very well-read on the matter.
 
I see where you're coming from, but I think that it's worth considering that the Nazis put a whole lot of effort into killing as many jews as they could even after it became apparent the war was lost. The time, energy and resources that went into taking the Final Solution as far as possible were a major priority. The overarching need to kill as many jews as possible, regardless of circumstance, resource, or effects on the State, is one of the features that separates them from Italian facism, for example, and gives an insight into their execution of a root premise. Stalin was random, belligerent, and way more whacko about who and what he targeted, but Hitler never stopped wanting and trying to kill all the jews.
Without putting in too much effort...the truth might be most accurately stated by saying that Hitler took the opportunity to make his dream come true.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top