War Room Lounge v121: Chess can definitely make your brain hurt lol

[Lead]

Thanks. Gold was sufficient?

yea, I got the lowest one and it seems to allow you to host a tournament. Not sure what the higher ones would get you. They make you pay for the full year too...

 

[Trotsky]

Goddamn, the PBS doc on George W. Bush is not very good. Just whitewashing navigating his own administration's reckless incompetence as a courageous personal journey for GWB.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I feel you guys, I am not sure of the last time I smoked either.

back in the 60's?

 

[Trotsky]

back in the 60's?

"You guys down to smoke a doobie?" - @Andy Capp

 

[Andy Capp]

"You guys down to smoke a doobie?" - @Andy Capp

LOL young'uns. No. You asked if people were down to listen to the Doobies while you roll a spliff.

 

[Fawlty]

Ever notice that when you don't use mouthwash for a little while, and then start back up, your mouthwash muscles are out of shape?

 

[sickc0d3r]

LOL young'uns. No. You asked if people were down to listen to the Doobies while you roll a spliff.

 

[Trotsky]

LOL young'uns. No. You asked if people were down to listen to the Doobies while you roll a spliff.

Personally, I still call them that. But it's because I have a fondness for funny-sounding words.

 

[Trotsky]

@Limbo Pete I'm going to ask of you a tremendous favor: that you give me your take on Furr's framing of Western (post-) Cold War historiography, and whether you agree with his concept of historical research as a dialectical methodology. You came to mind when he was talking about the active process of understanding history.



I read a journal article by him a few years ago, and I found him persuasive but thought his approach to archival interpretations was inconsistent.

@TheGreatA and @Possum Jenkins, you're free to join in as well if you have any opinions on the history of the Eastern European 1930s or about Furr generally. To be sure, his positions on Katyn seem especially outrageous.

 

[senri]

Ever notice that when you don't use mouthwash for a little while, and then start back up, your mouthwash muscles are out of shape?

Your mouth needs to be massaged through proper channels Mr. Fawlty... Some added resistance and you will be able to express your elation of life....

 

[Limbo Pete]

@Limbo Pete I'm going to ask of you a tremendous favor: that you give me your take on Furr's framing of Western (post-) Cold War historiography, and whether you agree with his concept of historical research as a dialectical methodology. You came to mind when he was talking about the active process of understanding history.



I read a journal article by him a few years ago, and I found him persuasive but thought his approach to archival interpretations was inconsistent.

@TheGreatA and @Possum Jenkins, you're free to join in as well if you have any opinions on the history of the Eastern European 1930s or about Furr generally. To be sure, his positions on Katyn seem especially outrageous.

No prob. Happy to watch this and give my thoughts. Quick question though: is this guy actually a historian? I'm only 5 or so minutes into the video, but my instinct is that he's not.

 

[Prokofievian]

@Limbo Pete I'm going to ask of you a tremendous favor: that you give me your take on Furr's framing of Western (post-) Cold War historiography, and whether you agree with his concept of historical research as a dialectical methodology. You came to mind when he was talking about the active process of understanding history.



I read a journal article by him a few years ago, and I found him persuasive but thought his approach to archival interpretations was inconsistent.

@TheGreatA and @Possum Jenkins, you're free to join in as well if you have any opinions on the history of the Eastern European 1930s or about Furr generally. To be sure, his positions on Katyn seem especially outrageous.

He's not wrong about the collectivization stuff. Conquest and Ellman were both forced to admit that there was no evidence of an orchestrated deliberate man made famine. Collectivization itself was also necessary. Crop yields pre collectivization were pathetic, and until 1931, collectivization was responsible for a massive increase in the amount of available food. Holodomor happened because Stalin made a horrible decision to not stop grain exports and mobilize their grain reserves in time.

I am unaware of any scholarship that casts doubt on the soviets killing a lot of polish prisoners at Katyn among other sites. They did that shit.

 

[weed]

 

[weed]

Ok well, if he was a decent person who made the world a better place for kids to grow healthy, then I'm sorry he died.

bro

 

[Limbo Pete]

@Limbo Pete I'm going to ask of you a tremendous favor: that you give me your take on Furr's framing of Western (post-) Cold War historiography, and whether you agree with his concept of historical research as a dialectical methodology. You came to mind when he was talking about the active process of understanding history.



I read a journal article by him a few years ago, and I found him persuasive but thought his approach to archival interpretations was inconsistent.

@TheGreatA and @Possum Jenkins, you're free to join in as well if you have any opinions on the history of the Eastern European 1930s or about Furr generally. To be sure, his positions on Katyn seem especially outrageous.

Alright, I was able to grind my way through that whole thing. I'll give you a more robust and useful response later today when I have some time to write it out.. For now, i'll just say that there are a lot of problems and flaws with his process when measured against the very criticism he is leveling at others. Every single historian bone in my body was cringe rolling. This is a good example of what happens when someone not trained as a historian decides to try and lecture history to other people. Let me put it this way: hearing this guy speak about himself as a historian was like hearing Jordan Peterson claim to be an evolutionary biologist.

 

[Wet Blanket]

@therealdope I like it but now I'm sad that Chris Farley isn't still with us

Didn't the movie about him just come out a few months ago? Don't think it did very well...

He's not a loveable guy outside the wacky GIFs. I do agree Farly would have been perfect though.

 

[Wet Blanket]

"You guys down to smoke a doobie?" - @Andy Capp

You guys got any of that jazz tobacco?

 

[Sketch]

You guys got any of that jazz tobacco?

Lol I never heard that one. Nice.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[Jack V Savage]

Biden would nominate even more-Republican judges than Trump, though. Plus, didn't you hear? He's old. Anyone who claims to think that he's sharper than President Super Genius is lying.