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War Room Lounge v108: The Lord's Work

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I feel like "We didn't start the fire" is the anthem of Boomers

Not
Their
Fault
 
PolishHeadlock2 said:
2020 is turning out to be a hell of a year

Iran/US hostilities
Australian wild fires
Locust swarms
A global pandemic gets Forrest Gump
Stock market crashing
Kobe died for our sins

And we're not even midway through month 3
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cue the religeous nuts proclaiming punishment for the gays/trannys....
 
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tonni said:
You’re all missing the point with what I said. The simplified argument is that if you vote Bernie, you’re voting for Trump and it’s your fault black people will die. It’s manipulative. Because Biden is so electable, he needs to guilt trip people into voting for him.

Of course Biden > Trump, but that doesn’t make the argument less manipulative. Ever argued with a narcissist, by the way? “It’s your fault if I kill myself”.
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Yeah, your point isn't particularly complicated or controversial, so I'm not sure why it's been so stirring.

To be sure, it's not all that applicable to anyone here, except maybe Rational Poster (but still probably not), since there wasn't a lot of "he's electable!" table pounding for Biden. But, for the Biden supporters who do exist elsewhere and were regularly deflecting critiques of policy and arguments about the candidates' histories with dead-ending claims of electability, it's a very worthwhile question: if this guy's electability was so awesome that it overshadowed literally all other reasonable considerations, then why will it now be necessary to spend the next 8 months convincing moron swing voters that he's not that senile, that he's not prone to being inappropriately affectionate with children, and that his policies are not a continuation of what the electorate symbolically rejected in 2016?

With that said, and with that glaring problem noted, I don't think consolidating the left-of-center vote will be all that difficult. Preventing defection at the center, though, will absolutely be a problem. Particularly for the voters who secretly want to live under dictatorship and vote for a "strong leader."
 
Look at that mourning drop at the Dow Jones.
 
Trotsky said:
Yeah, your point isn't particularly complicated or controversial, so I'm not sure why it's been so stirring.

To be sure, it's not all that applicable to anyone here, except maybe Rational Poster (but still probably not), since there wasn't a lot of "he's electable!" table pounding for Biden. But, for the Biden supporters who do exist elsewhere and were regularly deflecting critiques of policy and arguments about the candidates' histories with dead-ending claims of electability, it's a very worthwhile question: if this guy's electability was so awesome that it overshadowed literally all other reasonable considerations, then why will it now be necessary to spend the next 8 months convincing moron swing voters that he's not that senile, that he's not prone to being inappropriately affectionate with children, and that his policies are not a continuation of what the electorate symbolically rejected in 2016?

With that said, and with that glaring problem noted, I don't think consolidating the left-of-center vote will be all that difficult. Preventing defection at the center, though, will absolutely be a problem. Particularly for the voters who secretly want to live under dictatorship and vote for a "strong leader."
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It's obvious imo that Trump is being used as a way to prevent the country from swaying further left.

Limbo Pete said:
Yeah this shit is brutal. Our society puts so much value on keeping low wage workers disposable that there's no room for any kind of flexibility in the face of this stuff. It seems clear that the GOP would rather let everyone die or go bankrupt than give up on even the slightest amount of privilege, and the people that support them are so bought into the the fantasy that they would rather die or go broke before abandoning it.
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It's not just about making profits and the companies' bottom line neither. There is some kind of psychological play here, where they keep people down out of some form of sadism and superiority complex. What's the point of joining nobility if it doesn't involve feeling better than people less fortunate?
 
curryjunkie said:
cue the religeous nuts proclaiming punishment for the gays/trannys....
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Ive heard muslims claiming its punishment for the way china treated uyghurs. Of course, they obviously havent looked at the crazy amount of c-19 cases in iran.
 
tonni said:
It's obvious imo that Trump is being used as a way to prevent the country from swaying further left.


It's not just about making profits and the companies' bottom line neither. There is some kind of psychological play here, where they keep people down out of some form of sadism and superiority complex. What's the point of joining nobility if it doesn't involve feeling better than people less fortunate?
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If you don't have poor people nobody will join the military for those sweet benefits
 
tonni said:
It's obvious imo that Trump is being used as a way to prevent the country from swaying further left.
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If Trump loses, policy moves to the left, though. If he wins, it'll move to the right.
 
Not surprising but did anyone see Tito Ortiz is a corona truther?
 
Rational Poster said:
Stop trying to guilt Belgians into voting for their own interest Jack. That's not very nice.
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The question I have is "when is True Progressive's brilliant strategy of not voting supposed to pay dividends?" If they at least argued that the Iraq War and a hard-right SCOTUS (a direct result of Nader's vanity campaign) was worth it because it forced evil Democrats to elect Obama, which led to healthcare reform, maybe there would be an argument (likely that some form of reform would have passed under Gore, though). But they shit on that and him, too. So sitting out Gore/Kerry vs. Bush didn't work. Sitting out Clinton vs. Trump didn't work. So say they help Trump get a second term, then what? Say Democrats go even further left in 2024 (and note that Biden's platform is further left than any previous Democratic candidate's platform), assuming there even is an election in 2024, does anyone really think that True Progressives will turn out for them? It's not about policy being used to make things better for these people as much as displaying their personal righteousness.
 
So we're about 700 points away from the Dow being lower than it was when Trump took office. You know what I haven't seen? Trump cheerleaders who claimed to think that the stock market was a good reflection on the president's performance now reevaluating their assessment of him.
 
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Jack V Savage said:
So we're about 700 points away from the Dow being lower than it was when Trump took office. You know what I haven't seen ? Trump cheerleaders who claimed to think that the stock market was a good reflection on the president's performance now reevaluating their assessment of him.
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probably b/c people like you loved to point out that the Stock Market doesn't really effect normal people w/o 401k or Retirement accounts

wages still rising, unemployment record lows, etc.....
 
Is it time to buy? I'm trying to put a few thousand in some destroyed stocks, but don't know if it's now or wait a lolitt longer first.
 
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