War Room Longue V. 73: Royal Rumble

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LogicalInsanity said:
some a$$hole in the Boxing forum.

we were all in a thread regarding a certain fight, Bernard Hopkins vs. Tavaris Cloud.

anyway, I had a errand to run and asked in the thread when the main event was going to be. this piece of $hit tells me that there are two other fights on the card before the main event.

anyway, I Googled it myself, and it turned out it was goinig to be the very next fight.

I almost missed that fight because of that POS. we had quarreled before and he stalked me a few times but fu*k him.
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I hope his car gets towed away
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
The MRO?

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Compared to the Aimpoint Micro...


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I run lower 1/3 mounts.

Trotsky said:
I don't know who Nos is either.

And frankly, I'm judging all of you guys especially hard today, particularly because of things @PolishHeadlock2 has posted.
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Nostromo. Former mod.
 
Gregolian said:
WolfWithKeys

The real basic shit is that... he got into a real vitriolic back and forth with Nos where Nos was coming across like a gigantic ass then got dinged up for a series of felonies he committed and it got blasted out here on SD.

I'm honestly kinda surprised you don't know who this is.
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Not quite
 
Cubo de Sangre said:
Then to me the BFS is a no-brainer. If you're not in a hurry then maybe drag your feet for black Friday sales. What optic are you eyeing?

@A.C., you running a binary on something?




Looks like the real difference is gonna be balance.
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Shouldn't 4 inches of barrel make a big difference depending on what type of powder he's burning? What caliber is it?
 
Trotsky said:
There is A LOT I hate and I think you should hate. I'm going to use some GIF's to illustrate my own emotional reactions.

1. "No officer goes out in the field wishing to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed."
<TrumpWrong1>
He starts out with just a shameless lie. If you have any exposure to large police forces (he does), you know there are plenty of cowboy wannabe-bad asses with authority complexes. There are plenty of instances, despite the difficulty that the public has in getting any remotely thorough investigations into cops, of officers reveling in the chance to beat up civilians and even being glad that "nobody can tell us apart!!!!" so they can be even more liberated.
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2. "Working the street, I can’t even count how many times I withstood curses, screaming tantrums, aggressive and menacing encroachments on my safety zone, and outright challenges to my authority."
<NotListening>
Wow, outright challenges to your authority??? My god, the thought!
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3. "One time, for instance, my partner and I faced a belligerent man who had doused his car with gallons of gas and was about to create a firebomb at a busy mall filled with holiday shoppers. The potential for serious harm to the bystanders would have justified deadly force."
<mma1>
Could you at least maybe think of a scenario that actually involved imminent threat of death? A guy lighting a car on fire shouldn't have even made your trigger finger itch considering that the worst case scenario was that he'd light the match and you'd have minutes before the gas tank ignited.
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4. "We are still learning what transpired between Officer Darren Wilson and Brown, but in most cases it’s less ambiguous — and officers are rarely at fault."
<DontBelieve1>
Oh, cool. Glad we got that settled. Hundreds of unarmed people are killed every year by police, but it's rarely the officers' fault. Nothing conclusory or moronic about that.
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5. "Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you."
<{JustBleed}>
Hmm, yeah, the constitution is supposed to protect against arbitrary use of force by the government. And, while you seem tooootally reasonable and wouldn't throw your weight around, maybe consider that plenty of your meathead colleagues aren't so retrained. So how about: if you want to keep carrying a gun on the public dole, you calm the fuck down and don't kill anybody, you fragile bitch.
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6. "An average person cannot comprehend the risks and has no true understanding of a cop’s job."
<JonesDXSuckIt>
Yes they can, you self-aggrandizing cunt. Plenty of us have experienced dangerous environments. The only difference is that we weren't armed to the teeth and allowed to use deadly force against anyone we want with no earthly consequences.
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Honestly, it takes a HUGE granting of the benefit of the doubt for someone who is remotely familiar with urban policing to think this dude isn't being a hack. Come to St. Louis, see giant armies of cops chanting "WHOSE STREETS? OUR STREETS" as they beat the shit out of unarmed protesters so liberally that they end up hospitalizing an undercover cop, and tell me these are just scared snowflakes wanting to me home with their wives and kids.
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Well I addressed #1. He shouldn't write in absolutes like that, but he walked it back later in the article.

#3 lacks some details, but there definitely circumstances where that could be a very dangerous situation. Probably not the best example he could use, but you shouldn't be so dismissive of how dangerous a fire can be.

As far as points 2, 5 and 6 go I'll just put it like this to you: police have no choice in some situations. If they need to affect an arrest they need to. We don't have a choice, but civilians do. So no the risks are not the same. And we are expected to be reactionary; if we come up to the window of your car and you just start blasting, well we're most likely going to die.
2 and 5 are particularly poorly said, but without going back to the article I think we can assume he means in cases where an arrest is already warranted, not just for someone who doesn't "respect his authoritie."

I spent most of my career serving fugitive warrants where I frequently had to draw my firearm (although I admittedly was usually the breacher before going into crisis negotiation); I never shot anyone, even though I have experienced arresting people armed with firearms in their own homes. I have been involved in a couple armed standoffs. But during my brief time on patrol I only drew my firearm once. It wasn't because I felt personally in danger. I was driving past a middle school when I saw a big circle of kids, the kind where I knew there was a fight going on. As I got out of my vehicle and approached I saw a kid threatening another one with a pig sticking knife. That is basically like a slimmer bowie knife with a > nine inch blade, over 12" overall length. So I drew down on this kid and yelled for him to drop the knife. If he hadn't dropped it right away, or had made an aggressive move toward the other kid I'm afraid I would have had to shoot a fucking young teen. It's something that will always stay in the back of my mind, and believe me I do not want to ever shoot anyone let alone a kid. But I would have had to if I thought he might have killed or otherwise harmed the kid he was fighting with. I think that's the kind of situation you can't really understand unless you've done the job, tbh. And it's not because of any worry for my physical safety, but for the kind of mental stress and trauma stuff like that puts you under. Anyone who isn't a sociopath will be affected by something like that, or by shooting anyone really. And yeah I've known some scumbag cops who might fit that sociopath bill, but in reality it damn well sure is a minority.

So anyways, I will reiterate that I think the author should have shown more empathy toward civilians who deal with police, but you're showing less empathy than him tbh. And like I said I didn't love the article but it didn't make me think this guy is one of the scumbags. I think he's a guy reaching because he feels attacked. I could be wrong but that's how I saw it.
 
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